Broke Azz Gators can't pay top QB signee. he wants out

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In my mind these collectives could make better use of the money developing their own scouting arm.

I don't think artificially supressing college athlete wages/nil is right. If your school doesn't want to pay fine let someone else do it. People are saying it's out of control and bad for sport but not proposing any solutions. Y'all want a salary cap?
 

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In my mind these collectives could make better use of the money developing their own scouting arm.

I don't think artificially supressing college athlete wages/nil is right. If your school doesn't want to pay fine let someone else do it. People are saying it's out of control and bad for sport but not proposing any solutions. Y'all want a salary cap?
Collectives can't work in cahoots w/ athletic programs. What HC is gonna let a collective dictate what players they want for their system? And wages for rookies are suppressed at the pro level and not one fan is out here complaining about it either.

And y'all want them to be employees of the universities which *surprise* are state ran institutions (minus the private schools) that state legislatures cap how much employees can get paid. The collectives would still be needed b/c of that. Bama only pays $300k or $350k of Nick's salary. That other $10MM is paid for by the boosters. There's no perfect way to do this.

OAN, people can't bytch and complain that the NCAA doesn't do shyt like pay the players then when they've been saying for years that they need to stay out of it. Then THE POWER 5 AD'S ICW THEIR STATE GOVTS pass legislation saying they can be paid and now everyone wants the NCAA to step in and do something. This ain't an NCAA issue. This is a state govt/P5 problem. It's impossible for the NCAA to do anything when each state has different guidelines regarding NIL. They can't just usurp rule of law.
 
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UofF has a $2B+ endowment & get $55M a year from they tv deal, yet folks are clamoring for "Collectives" to pay the players. smh :hhh:
That has shyt to do with shyt. Harvard has a $53 billie endowment so by your summation, they should be the Bama of the Northeast.

Watch CFB and not know how it works brehs
 

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This is why the market will correct itself.

After a while theyll realize throwing tens of millions at an unproven prospect might not be the wave, especially when they turn out to be busts Year after year and they still don't win shyt..... and the established veteran players just get pissed off and leave cuz they're not getting that kind of bread.
The market WON'T correct itself when it comes to QBs. This shyt will set up just like the NFL where the QBs will be the top $$ getters. Hell, Arch is worth $3.5MM per yr. Ain't no way this dude is worth half of that when the best QB in his state got a $9MM deal
 

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Collectives can't work in cahoots w/ athletic programs. What HC is gonna let a collective dictate what players they want for their system? And wages for rookies are suppressed at the pro level and not one fan is out here complaining about it either.
Did not know this. Good shyt.
 

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We’re all for players making money, but this is absolutely not a sustainable model moving forward. Rashada is a project based on his physical abilities that might take 2 years before he sees the field for a respectable program. And HE’S getting 13 milli before stepping on the college field? So what would the 3rd year WR who was all conference last year think about some 17 year old walking in with that money without playing a down? He’s gonna want something similar or he’s hitting the portal. And how do you keep up with this for the next cycle of recruits?

DOUBLE EDGED SWORD....

NCAA HAS MADE BILLIONS
UPON BILLIONS UPON BILLIONS OFF THE BACKS
OF STUDENTS AND DIDNT HAVE
TO PAY A DIME.

I JUST HOPE THESE YOUNG BOYS
APPRECIATE THEIR ELDERS
WHO PAVED THE WAY.
:devil:
:evil:
 

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I understand that kids and the fam wants to get paid but 13 million dollars is ridiculous for a unproven HS kid going to the SEC to play ball. Especially if the program doesn't developed him into a winner and a potential pro. They need to be a cap but at the same time, a program needs to find players who want to be there, can developed correctly and are going to fit within the budget. The elite schools are able to do that and stay competitive while the others are overspending and still not getting the results that they want.
 

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I understand that kids and the fam wants to get paid but 13 million dollars is ridiculous for a unproven HS kid going to the SEC to play ball. Especially if the program doesn't developed him into a winner and a potential pro. They need to be a cap but at the same time, a program needs to find players who want to be there, can developed correctly and are going to fit within the budget. The elite schools are able to do that and stay competitive while the others are overspending and still not getting the results that they want.
The bubble will burst soon enough. Let DJ Uiagalelei be an example.
 

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The market WON'T correct itself when it comes to QBs. This shyt will set up just like the NFL where the QBs will be the top $$ getters. Hell, Arch is worth $3.5MM per yr. Ain't no way this dude is worth half of that when the best QB in his state got a $9MM deal

QBs will always make the most bread compared to the other positions, much like the NFL.
but after some years, some schools will start to realize they just spent over 100M on a bunch of Tate Martell's and hit the :patrice: as they look at other schools that arent paying as much that are actually winning. Thats when prices will adjust.
 
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Stricklin needs to go but keep Billy and give em time. This roster needs to be flipped and it almost already is flipped. Forget about 2023, we’re gonna be dog shyt again because we will probably the youngest team in CFB and set your sights on 2024. At least I am
Not sold on Napier at all. Resume was so so(even at Louisiana he barely beat really bad teams). He was consistently out coached last year and chose to keep that same under performing staff. Recruiting is marginally better at the top compared to mullen but is better at the middle and floor. Portal recruiting has been a trainwreck. He looks like an inexperienced on the job HC, like Derek Dooley. He's flipped the roster I guess we'll see if it the mullen players or his evaluation
 

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Yep that’s how i feel. Onlyyyyy thing I didnt like was us rushing to take Mertz in the portal. I understand too not going after a higher rated QB in the portal for a one year rental because they’re going to cost a lot and why pay for a Sam Hartman when no matter how good he could be for our O, we would still be an 8-9 win team tops. Just run the hell outta the ball and pray to gawd our D improves lol. I could see us as bad as 4 wins or max out at 8 wins
Problem is if the OL doesn't open holes can Mertz beat them through air. Defense definitely can't go anywhere but up. Maybe looking at a Max of 5-6 wins. It's not really about the record it's how you look and doing everything necessary to keep Lagway. If nothing looks better next year and Lagway leaves, I'd pull the plug on the staff and stricklin. Clean slate. CFB is changing too fast for Florida to be left behind.
 

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but after some years, some schools will start to realize they just spent over 100M on a bunch of Tate Martell's and hit the :patrice: as they look at other schools that arent paying as much that are actually winning.
As long as Texas A&M, Miami, Texas, and any other program that believes its their birthright to win a title, they'll always be a team that will back up the Brinks
 

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As long as Texas A&M, Miami, Texas, and any other program that believes its their birthright to win a title, they'll always be a team that will back up the Brinks
Even that has its limits. I can tell you there isn't infinite NIL money to be handed out at Texas. A lot of the big money people don't even contribute to NIL because they don't believe in it on principle. A lot of those guys are old money and have straight up told the AD no when it comes to donating to NIL. Texas is doing work elsewhere with the not so big money and also leaning on the alumni/fanbase for donations but are far and away from having anything sustainable on a yearly basis. People also have to remember it ain't just the football team looking to get paid.

Also look at A&M for an example. They went all in on that '22 class with under the table money(not NIL), didn't set up any kind of NIL structure and then ended up with a class out of the top 10 in '23, then basically had to empty the well to retain talent from the '22 class so they weren't even much of a player during transfer season and they are short like 15 scholarship players.


So all in all these schools are not swimming in NIL money, for major players you'll have corporate NIL step in and help out but those are mostly reserved for players like Bijan.

Lastly there is no way that kid was offered 13 million. I could believe a number around 3 million spread over 3-4 years but 13 is an absurd amount.
 
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