Brexit Is Teaching Britain A Lesson In Humility; Boris Johnson finalizes EU Exit Deal!

[ColdSlither]

I read this morning that the government and British citizens are starting to stockpile food and medicine. The shyt show just gets better and better. This is what happens when you listen to right wing nut jobs who just want to blow shyt up, and didn't even give zero fukks about even thinking about the consequences. Yeah things are messed up, but that doesn't mean you just blow up the whole entire system.

 

[Slystallion]

Not too familiar with details but if the people voted for this to happen don't the leaders have to find a way to make this split happen?

 

[FAH1223]

It's fukking stunning. It really is. Like holy hell the Tories literally have never been more fractured and dysfunctional and you STILL can't win in a general. Hell he can't even force the fractured base to FORCE a general.

He can win a general election. I think Corbyn sees that they were down 20 in polls before the last one when it was called by May and thinks that a good campaign can bolt them up.

But they can’t force one for a couple reasons

1. Nothing unites the Conservatives more at this time than the fear of a Labour govt led by Corbyn

2. Labour as a party doesn’t know what the hell to do with Brexit and they’re being intellectually dishonest saying they can get a better deal. Then you have a good portion of MPs wanting a 2nd referendum but you have others from areas that voted leave that don’t want to lose their seat.

Corbyn really is in a no win situation.

 

[Trajan]

Why do you think so? I don't see it, because the European elections are slated for later this year and they want the Brexit business sorted beforehand. It would be farcical if Britain was allowed to vote representatives into a parliamentary chamber and an organisation which they are leaving.

Looks like the EU elections may be delayed. And despite the farce, delaying the election and allowing the UK to.vote as a member is preferable for the EU to dealing with the legal issues arising from a continuing member being subject to EU laws but not having any representation.

I think the EU were expecting an extension regardless of yesterday's vote and are just waiting for May to put in the request.

 

[FAH1223]

 

[thatrapsfan]

None of this was a secret. Everyone knew the EU would not let you pick the most favourable parts of membership and declining the corresponding responsibilities. All these competing aims between the EU and UK...and within the UK cannot be reconciled.

But the sheer delusion of some hardcore Brexiteers is awe-inspiring.
Brexiteers in 2016: They need us more than we need them. The size of our economy...military...diplomatic clout etc..They will be forced to give us a great deal


Brexiteers in 2017: The EU playing hardball. Why would we want to be a part of an organisation that's being this nasty to their neighbour . We should call their bluff and go for hard Brexit


Brexiteers in 2018: They really willing to let us commit suicide






The whole thing was a perfect storm. An overconfident and recently successful David Cameron trying to settle his party's longstanding divisions over Europe...the rise of populism in Europe...the migrant crisis and to be honest the masses didn't really know wtf they were voting for and the reality of it. We had our own Trump,,the original blonde buffoon and his sidekicks just saying whatever they felt like.


@mbewane have you seen this clip before? It's a scene from a classic British sitcom in the 1980s






Sir Humphrey: Minister, Britain has had the same foreign policy objective for at least the last five hundred years: to create a disunited Europe. In that cause we have fought with the Dutch against the Spanish, with the Germans against the French, with the French and Italians against the Germans, and with the French against the Germans and Italians. Divide and rule, you see. Why should we change now, when it's worked so well?
Hacker: That's all ancient history, surely?
Sir Humphrey: Yes, and current policy. We had to break the whole thing [the EEC] up, so we had to get inside. We tried to break it up from the outside, but that wouldn't work. Now that we're inside we can make a complete pig's breakfast of the whole thing — set the Germans against the French, the French against the Italians, the Italians against the Dutch... The Foreign Office is terribly pleased; it's just like old times.
Hacker: But surely we're all committed to the European ideal?
Sir Humphrey: [chuckles] Really, Minister.
Hacker: If not, why are we pushing for an increase in the membership?
Sir Humphrey: Well, for the same reason. It's just like the United Nations, in fact; the more members it has, the more arguments it can stir up, the more futile and impotent it becomes.
Hacker: What appalling cynicism.
Sir Humphrey: Yes... We call it diplomacy, Minister.



Impeccable writing

Classic show, I need to fire up a few episodes this evening.

 

[Tribaligenesis]

He can win a general election. I think Corbyn sees that they were down 20 in polls before the last one when it was called by May and thinks that a good campaign can bolt them up.

But they can’t force one for a couple reasons

1. Nothing unites the Conservatives more at this time than the fear of a Labour govt led by Corbyn

2. Labour as a party doesn’t know what the hell to do with Brexit and they’re being intellectually dishonest saying they can get a better deal. Then you have a good portion of MPs wanting a 2nd referendum but you have others from areas that voted leave that don’t want to lose their seat.

Corbyn really is in a no win situation.

I don't like Corbyn , but Labour does actually have a better option for Brexit than the conservatives, a customs union, which actually could be a lot simpler. They would only need to implement Norway's deal and sign on the dotted line. Which is what Labour is proposing.

 

[FAH1223]

I don't like Corbyn , but Labour does actually have a better option for Brexit than the conservatives, a customs union, which actually could be a lot simpler. They would only need to implement Norway's deal and sign on the dotted line. Which is what Labour is proposing.

That is better but what will compel the EU to do it? I mean, I get that a general election will force a postponement but the EU is holding the UK by the balls

 

[Tribaligenesis]

That is better but what will compel the EU to do it? I mean, I get that a general election will force a postponement but the EU is holding the UK by the balls

It would avoid a backstop and keep the good Friday agreement, without hurting anyone economically. Infact the European Union would come out of this a lot better than the UK.

 

[Tribaligenesis]

The UK would be in control of their borders, which is what most people wanted but still have to agree to a set of amount of immigration with the EU

 

[88m3]

she barely survived the vote

 

[88m3]

live now

 

[Sinnerman]

 

[the cac mamba]

The UK would be in control of their borders, which is what most people wanted but still have to agree to a set of amount of immigration with the EU

what a disgusting deal

 

[Fenian]

No deal here we come.


Irish reunification, Scottish independence and the complete collapse of the UK is on the horizon.