Brexit Is Teaching Britain A Lesson In Humility; Boris Johnson finalizes EU Exit Deal!

[thatrapsfan]

Interesting. Would be wild if both May and Corbyn get sidelined by backbenchers.

Can backbench MPs take full control of Brexit? Much of the focus is on an initiative by former Conservative minister Nick Boles to put the Commons in the driving seat. He is proposing to give Mrs May effectively just three weeks to secure MPs’ approval for a tweaked Brexit deal in a second Commons vote. If she fails, Mr Boles has published a bill that would give the Commons liaison select committee — comprised of the most senior backbench MPs — responsibility for devising an alternative to Mrs May’s deal.

 

[88m3]

It’s time for May to pull the emergency brake and extend article 50 | Jonathan Powell

 

[mbewane]

It’s time for May to pull the emergency brake and extend article 50 | Jonathan Powell

Imagine voting to get out of the EU and asking the EU to stay a little longer

Whole Brexit is an utter embarassment for the UK. They have no idea what they were/are doing. Amateuristic populism strikes again. If I were the EU I'd tell them to gtfo and handle their business. All these years of being picky and opting-out of this and that, well now's your time to show how mighty you are. We've got an internal market of a couple hundred millions, we'll be good.

 

[Trajan]

Imagine voting to get out of the EU and asking the EU to stay a little longer

Whole Brexit is an utter embarassment for the UK. They have no idea what they were/are doing. Amateuristic populism strikes again. If I were the EU I'd tell them to gtfo and handle their business. All these years of being picky and opting-out of this and that, well now's your time to show how mighty you are. We've got an internal market of a couple hundred millions, we'll be good.

None of this was a secret. Everyone knew the EU would not let you pick the most favourable parts of membership and declining the corresponding responsibilities. All these competing aims between the EU and UK...and within the UK cannot be reconciled.

But the sheer delusion of some hardcore Brexiteers is awe-inspiring.
Brexiteers in 2016: They need us more than we need them. The size of our economy...military...diplomatic clout etc..They will be forced to give us a great deal


Brexiteers in 2017: The EU playing hardball. Why would we want to be a part of an organisation that's being this nasty to their neighbour . We should call their bluff and go for hard Brexit


Brexiteers in 2018: They really willing to let us commit suicide






The whole thing was a perfect storm. An overconfident and recently successful David Cameron trying to settle his party's longstanding divisions over Europe...the rise of populism in Europe...the migrant crisis and to be honest the masses didn't really know wtf they were voting for and the reality of it. We had our own Trump,,the original blonde buffoon and his sidekicks just saying whatever they felt like.


@mbewane have you seen this clip before? It's a scene from a classic British sitcom in the 1980s






Sir Humphrey: Minister, Britain has had the same foreign policy objective for at least the last five hundred years: to create a disunited Europe. In that cause we have fought with the Dutch against the Spanish, with the Germans against the French, with the French and Italians against the Germans, and with the French against the Germans and Italians. Divide and rule, you see. Why should we change now, when it's worked so well?
Hacker: That's all ancient history, surely?
Sir Humphrey: Yes, and current policy. We had to break the whole thing [the EEC] up, so we had to get inside. We tried to break it up from the outside, but that wouldn't work. Now that we're inside we can make a complete pig's breakfast of the whole thing — set the Germans against the French, the French against the Italians, the Italians against the Dutch... The Foreign Office is terribly pleased; it's just like old times.
Hacker: But surely we're all committed to the European ideal?
Sir Humphrey: [chuckles] Really, Minister.
Hacker: If not, why are we pushing for an increase in the membership?
Sir Humphrey: Well, for the same reason. It's just like the United Nations, in fact; the more members it has, the more arguments it can stir up, the more futile and impotent it becomes.
Hacker: What appalling cynicism.
Sir Humphrey: Yes... We call it diplomacy, Minister.



Impeccable writing

 

[Baka's Weird Case]

None of this was a secret. Everyone knew the EU would not let you pick the most favourable parts of membership and declining the corresponding responsibilities. All these competing aims between the EU and UK...and within the UK cannot be reconciled.

But the sheer delusion of some hardcore Brexiteers is awe-inspiring.
Brexiteers in 2016: They need us more than we need them. The size of our economy...military...diplomatic clout etc..They will be forced to give us a great deal


Brexiteers in 2017: The EU playing hardball. Why would we want to be a part of an organisation that's being this nasty to their neighbour . We should call their bluff and go for hard Brexit


Brexiteers in 2018: They really willing to let us commit suicide

whats crazy about this to me is how did brexiters assume the EU would cave after watching YEARS of austerity measures on continental europe?

 

[BoBurnz]

All this mess and Labour is tied in the polls. Ohhh Jer-emy Cor-bynnn!!

It's fukking stunning. It really is. Like holy hell the Tories literally have never been more fractured and dysfunctional and you STILL can't win in a general. Hell he can't even force the fractured base to FORCE a general.

 

[BoBurnz]

whats crazy about this to me is how did brexiters assume the EU would cave after watching YEARS of austerity measures on continental europe?

Years of austerity measures in their own back yard. The UK has been in one long measured austerity state basically since Thatcher killed the unions.

The lesson of the last few years more and more is that @DEAD7 has to be high to trust the common corporate goon to do any sort of net good for anybody. It's clear as day that these people are idiots who just wanna make the imaginary money number go up without actually creating fukking jobs or a stable union.

 

[BoBurnz]

And that's literally what the UK's financial sector is, btw, just a bunch of people checking boxes to make an imaginary number go up so everybody can pretend they're richer and richer while the country is quite literally beginning to crumble around them. Which is why Ireland headed that direction is terrifying for their burgeoning middle class. Because surprise, decades of austerity and gutting the government means that the state infrastructure is collapsing and the public sector is slashed more and more, creating yet more underemployment in an inherently broken system.

 

[BoBurnz]

Also that a bunch of hard right lunatics are going to hold up the conservative government purely off the basis of their overwhelming hatred for gay people and teenage mothers really is something to behold in how openly repugnant it is.

This whole series of failures and fukkups is just the root of human idiocy and monstrous cruelty laid bare.

 

[Sukairain]

Unlikely. Staying in is more likely than that.

Most likely get an extension from the EU

Why do you think so? I don't see it, because the European elections are slated for later this year and they want the Brexit business sorted beforehand. It would be farcical if Britain was allowed to vote representatives into a parliamentary chamber and an organisation which they are leaving.

 

[Sukairain]

None of this was a secret. Everyone knew the EU would not let you pick the most favourable parts of membership and declining the corresponding responsibilities. All these competing aims between the EU and UK...and within the UK cannot be reconciled.

But the sheer delusion of some hardcore Brexiteers is awe-inspiring.
Brexiteers in 2016: They need us more than we need them. The size of our economy...military...diplomatic clout etc..They will be forced to give us a great deal


Brexiteers in 2017: The EU playing hardball. Why would we want to be a part of an organisation that's being this nasty to their neighbour . We should call their bluff and go for hard Brexit


Brexiteers in 2018: They really willing to let us commit suicide






The whole thing was a perfect storm. An overconfident and recently successful David Cameron trying to settle his party's longstanding divisions over Europe...the rise of populism in Europe...the migrant crisis and to be honest the masses didn't really know wtf they were voting for and the reality of it. We had our own Trump,,the original blonde buffoon and his sidekicks just saying whatever they felt like.


@mbewane have you seen this clip before? It's a scene from a classic British sitcom in the 1980s






Sir Humphrey: Minister, Britain has had the same foreign policy objective for at least the last five hundred years: to create a disunited Europe. In that cause we have fought with the Dutch against the Spanish, with the Germans against the French, with the French and Italians against the Germans, and with the French against the Germans and Italians. Divide and rule, you see. Why should we change now, when it's worked so well?
Hacker: That's all ancient history, surely?
Sir Humphrey: Yes, and current policy. We had to break the whole thing [the EEC] up, so we had to get inside. We tried to break it up from the outside, but that wouldn't work. Now that we're inside we can make a complete pig's breakfast of the whole thing — set the Germans against the French, the French against the Italians, the Italians against the Dutch... The Foreign Office is terribly pleased; it's just like old times.
Hacker: But surely we're all committed to the European ideal?
Sir Humphrey: [chuckles] Really, Minister.
Hacker: If not, why are we pushing for an increase in the membership?
Sir Humphrey: Well, for the same reason. It's just like the United Nations, in fact; the more members it has, the more arguments it can stir up, the more futile and impotent it becomes.
Hacker: What appalling cynicism.
Sir Humphrey: Yes... We call it diplomacy, Minister.



Impeccable writing

Holy shyt I just discovered Yes, Minister a couple of weeks ago. It's got to be a contender for GOAT comedy

 

[BobbyBooshay]

These people seem to have no idea what to do.

David Cameron

 

[DEAD7]

Years of austerity measures in their own back yard. The UK has been in one long measured austerity state basically since Thatcher killed the unions.

The lesson of the last few years more and more is that @DEAD7 has to be high to trust the common corporate goon to do any sort of net good for anybody. It's clear as day that these people are idiots who just wanna make the imaginary money number go up without actually creating fukking jobs or a stable union.

You have to be completely zooted out of your mind to trust career politicians.

 

[ZoeGod]

A part of me want a No deal Brexit to happen because these far right brexiteers racist fukks think the UK is still relevant as a world power. It would shatter their world when the UK is broken up. Also I want the the UK to pay for all the crimes they did to Africa and Asia during colonialism.

 

[duckbutta]

And that's literally what the UK's financial sector is, btw, just a bunch of people checking boxes to make an imaginary number go up so everybody can pretend they're richer and richer while the country is quite literally beginning to crumble around them. Which is why Ireland headed that direction is terrifying for their burgeoning middle class. Because surprise, decades of austerity and gutting the government means that the state infrastructure is collapsing and the public sector is slashed more and more, creating yet more underemployment in an inherently broken system.

This is true of virtually every 1st world country including America...

And the answer isn't more government or less government...the answer is BETTER PEOPLE in government and REAL TANGIBLE REPROCUSSIONS AND PUNISHMENT if those people fail to do their job...