"Bret Hart Didnt Get Over In WCW...NO IMPACT" - Scott Hall

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This has nothing to do with caping we talking about life or death shyt much bigger than wrestling. You on some bullshyt right now

Ok So...:ld: Why do you care so damned much? You sounding like a real mark right now...:what: Wrestling ain't real. these wrestlers don't care about you....
 

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Bret Hart had no impact primarily because he wasn't used right. As soon as he came into the company he should have been feuding with the top heels in the company or be in the main even picture. Turning him heel and joining the NWO was ridiculous.

Also by the time he joined WCW the tide was turning into the WWF favor. Austin won the title and the feud with McMahon really picked up steam. Add the fact that the NWO angle kept getting dragged out with the Wolfpack and Hogan still hogging up the main event scene pretty much sealed the deal.

Also what is up with Hall's obsession with Hart? It seems like he's always throwing shots at towards Bret for no reason.
 

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Bret really didn't have any compelling storylines and the Montreal screw job really put him in a bad place, because he was definitely breaking through as a heel. Then, he got so much sympathy that it forced back to this bland boring face. He couldn't do shyt but spin his wheel with bullshyt storylines.

Ultimately... Bret Hart's career died with the Montreal scew job and ultimately gave birth to Vince McMahon. It still an extraordinary event that change the course of history.
 

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Bret Hart had no impact primarily because he wasn't used right. As soon as he came into the company he should have been feuding with the top heels in the company or be in the main even picture. Turning him heel and joining the NWO was ridiculous.

Also by the time he joined WCW the tide was turning into the WWF favor. Austin won the title and the feud with McMahon really picked up steam. Add the fact that the NWO angle kept getting dragged out with the Wolfpack and Hogan still hogging up the main event scene pretty much sealed the deal.

Also what is up with Hall's obsession with Hart? It seems like he's always throwing shots at towards Bret for no reason.

This. WCW didn't need anymore heels when Bret came in. Bret needed to be pushed as a top level pissed off face going against the likes of Hall/Nash/Hogan, etc. Them turning him heel was just weird. Bret proved he could be an excellent heel late in the WWF, but WCW just made him look like a dope, especially in the NWO.
 

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The fact that Bret and Sting didn't have any ring chemistry whatsoever is :snoop:. That was one of my dream matches hwne I was a kid and I was like :krs: when Bret came to WCW and hoping they'd meet in the ring.

Then they did and....:francis:.
 

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In a kayfabe sense, Bret's character was really strong coming from WWE. Pretty much every loss was a screwjob, and he, from a kayfabe standpoint, had Stone Cold's number.

Easy, easy stuff to build off of. I'll believe that his heart probably wasn't in it as much, but that's at least partly because the booking was so haphazard. It's exhausting trying to fight that all the time. There was even a line in his book that said "no one will ever accuse me of taking the business too seriously again".

Had they had good cohesive ideas, it could've been his GOAT run. He was absolutely in his prime in '97.


I think a lot of yall are conditioned to the WWE's brainwashing.
im noticing that a lot of you have a privileged mentality when speaking on this, not realizing that the WCW was bigger than the WWF, had a way better roster, and to top it off - bret hart was never a top-tier name in the business overall while WCW was full of household names.

1.) why would they build off of another promotion's booking? the WWF hardly ever does this, but you expect another promotion to do it?? a bigger promotion than the WWF on top of that.
2.) youre under the assumption that WCW fans were watching the WWF. again more of that privileged mentality.
3.) the WWF roster was the minor leagues in comparison to the WCW. you cant expect him to be booked as strongly in WCW where they had a lot of guys that were either bigger names or hotter than he was.

and despite all of that, they still rolled out the red carpet for him. its his fault that he couldn't get over.

if the shoe was on the other foot, and he jumped to the WWF while vince had a gang of bigger names, bret would've been stuck in midcard hell, and most of yall wouldn't be complaining either.

yall gotta let that WWF childhood nostalgia go.
 
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nikka gtfoh, Eric Bischoff HIMSELF admitted WCW didn’t use Bret correctly.


give the full quote. not just part of it. cuz we just saw what bischoff really had to say on that viceland show.

with that said, don't give me any quotes from him on no WWE platforms or anything else when he was in the midst of potentially doing any business with them.
 
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But WCW has to take some of the blame as well. His first official business in WCW is as a special referee for the Bischoff/Zbyszko match at Starrrcade, then the reversal of the Hogan/Sting decision later that night. Not exactly the best way to debut him, IMO. Then, his first feud is with one of the most if not thee most beloved wrestlers in WCW, Ric Flair, who completely destroys him on the mic during their back and forth promos and really exposed Bret's lack of charisma and interview skills.


and whose fault is that?
if he got exposed that easy, then what does that tell you??:whistle:

youre proving my point. bret hart was now a small fish in a big pond.
you cant blame WCW for not holding bret hart's hand & burping him.

and a lot of big stars debuting in a new promotion, start out as a special guest referee/enforcer in their first big appearance. that was pretty common back then. that's another thing. a lot of these criticisms are done too much in hindsight.

yall gotta let that mid-90s wwf nostalgia go.
most of that was a wack time period for the WWF anyway.
 
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Bret Hart had no impact primarily because he wasn't used right. As soon as he came into the company he should have been feuding with the top heels in the company or be in the main even picture. Turning him heel and joining the NWO was ridiculous.

Also by the time he joined WCW the tide was turning into the WWF favor. Austin won the title and the feud with McMahon really picked up steam. Add the fact that the NWO angle kept getting dragged out with the Wolfpack and Hogan still hogging up the main event scene pretty much sealed the deal.

Also what is up with Hall's obsession with Hart? It seems like he's always throwing shots at towards Bret for no reason.


they immediately inserted him into the biggest storyline in the industry, as well as another one of WCW's biggest feuds going on at the same dam time.
then his first feud was against ric flair. what more do you want?

WCW was still far ahead of the WWF when bret jumped.
the WWF didn't really start gaining ground until the mike Tyson/Austin stuff and that was months later.
and they still had a ways to go after that.

why are you worried about what was hogging up the main event scene? bret hart couldn't even get over, so what makes you think he had any business in the main event?

as for hall, I didn't know that he goes at bret's neck like that. maybe its a kliq thing? but at the same time, im sure a lot of the big dogs in WCW that were more over than bret, yet given way less, might feel some type of way about the narrative & the excuses. so maybe its a combination of that & the kliq.
 

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This. WCW didn't need anymore heels when Bret came in. Bret needed to be pushed as a top level pissed off face going against the likes of Hall/Nash/Hogan, etc. Them turning him heel was just weird. Bret proved he could be an excellent heel late in the WWF, but WCW just made him look like a dope, especially in the NWO.


alot of yall didn't watch wcw.

he came in as the ultimate face and couldn't get over.

and stop dwelling on what he proved he could do in the WWF. he wasn't in the WWF anymore. he was in the WCW. different world. different fans. bigger & better competition.

he looked like a dope in WCW, because he couldn't keep up with their energy, star-power, mic skills, etc. cmon man. its easy to look like the biggest baddest brotha on the block when youre beating up on dweebs like DX are your top competition. youre not gonna look so cool when ric flair is destroying you on the mic one month, rick rude & curt hennig are sonning you the next. then you got the NWO, and dudes like the wolfpack throwing up gang-signs & coming out to c-murder.

and I see that people keep avoiding these comments like the plague, so im thinking that yall are just purposely in denial about this.
 

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Agreed, I’m a WCW mark and I gave and currently give 0 fukks about Bret Hart. Rick Rude, Madusa, Brian Adams, Dustin Rhodes, etc. etc. were all more exciting additions to me. Bret is just boring. :manny:


THIS
you can tell that this is a pro-WWF board.
the fact that you only got 2 daps for this, says it all.

and I like bret hart. but he was never this big huge top-tier star that people like to pretend he was.
same goes for shawn michaels & the undertaker. theres a reason why the WWF darn near went out of business when that was their big 3.
 

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He was Hogan’s lackey for much of his run. Bret Hart ain’t Brutus beefcake
 
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