"Bret Hart Didnt Get Over In WCW...NO IMPACT" - Scott Hall

[Wacky D]

He was over, but I agree that had had no impact because they used him about as poorly as they possibly could. They literally had the dude coming off the biggest, most buzzworthy event in wrestling history up to that point, the true WWF Champion who never really lost, and they really had him going after the TV title. That was the first title he got a shot at in WCW. And it was 6 months into his run.

It was the most buzz-worthy event in the WWF. not in the WCW, which had a different audience and was bigger.

tryna tell yall, WCW fans generally didn't care about that chit like that. sting was about to wrestle hulk Hogan in one of the biggest dream matches ever. you think they care about a couple of souped up midcard name-value wrestlers in another promotion like that?

if the screw-job was so monumental, then certainly the crowd would've went ape-chit when bret hart appeared in WCW. but instead their reaction to him was just aiird.

and I remember main eventers who were more over than bret, fighting over the TV title. it might look funny in hindsight of by WWF standards, but in real-time, WCW was THAT stacked.

 

[Wacky D]

He was a fish in Hulkkk Hogan's political pond.

hulk Hogan's politics had nothing to do with the WCW crowds being indifferent towards bret's arrival.

or the crowds riding with heel flair and to an extent heel hennig/rude.

 

[John Reena]

Ya nikkaz drunk. They had Bret driving hummers, being a ref, etc. Everything except wrestling

 

[NYChase718]

Its weird how at the end of 99
Wcw had benoit and bret in world title scene which you would think would be a good look for their company
Then
Benoit left wit eddie saturn and malenko
And bret forms another NwO

 

[Wacky D]

Ya nikkaz drunk. They had Bret driving hummers, being a ref, etc. Everything except wrestling

in other words, you didn't watch.

 

[dbp]

In a kayfabe sense, Bret's character was really strong coming from WWE. Pretty much every loss was a screwjob, and he, from a kayfabe standpoint, had Stone Cold's number.

Easy, easy stuff to build off of. I'll believe that his heart probably wasn't in it as much, but that's at least partly because the booking was so haphazard. It's exhausting trying to fight that all the time. There was even a line in his book that said "no one will ever accuse me of taking the business too seriously again".

Had they had good cohesive ideas, it could've been his GOAT run. He was absolutely in his prime in '97.

 

[John Reena]

in other words, you didn't watch.

nikka gtfoh, Eric Bischoff HIMSELF admitted WCW didn’t use Bret correctly.

 

[Black White Sox Hat]

Bret got screwed.Then he went to WCW and got screwed again.Smh.

 

[Ruby'sRevolver]

Bret was a broken man when he went to WCW. He had lost his fire and passion, IMO. He probably thought he would be over with the fans just through his reputation as a great worker but this was in the middle of the war and Bret was a long time WWF guy, also I don't think a lot of those rednecks were gonna cheer for a guy who waves a Canadian flag and was on tv shytting on the U.S., LOL and to be honest, I'm not sure how much Bret really wanted to be in WCW in the first place, he just seemed to be 'going through the motions'. He should've came in hungry, with some fire and determination to make the WWF sorry for letting him leave. Instead, we got the low-energy, shoulder slouching, sourpuss version of the Hitman.

But WCW has to take some of the blame as well. His first official business in WCW is as a special referee for the Bischoff/Zbyszko match at Starrrcade, then the reversal of the Hogan/Sting decision later that night. Not exactly the best way to debut him, IMO. Then, his first feud is with one of the most if not thee most beloved wrestlers in WCW, Ric Flair, who completely destroys him on the mic during their back and forth promos and really exposed Bret's lack of charisma and interview skills.

Bret and WCW were just a bad fit. Vince was right when he told Bret that 'WCW wouldn't know what to do with a Bret Hart.'

 

[NYChase718]

Bret was a broken man when he went to WCW. He had lost his fire and passion, IMO. He probably thought he would be over with the fans just through his reputation as a great worker but this was in the middle of the war and Bret was a long time WWF guy, also I don't think a lot of those rednecks were gonna cheer for a guy who waves a Canadian flag and was on tv shytting on the U.S., LOL and to be honest, I'm not sure how much Bret really wanted to be in WCW in the first place.

But WCW has to take some of the blame as well. His first official business in WCW is as a special referee for the Bischoff/Zbyszko match at Starrrcade, then the reversal of the Hogan/Sting decision later that night. Not exactly the best way to debut him, IMO. Then, his first feud is with one of the most if not thee most beloved wrestlers in WCW, Ric Flair, who completely destroys him on the mic during their back and forth promos and really exposed Bret's lack of charisma and interview skills.

Bret and WCW were just a bad fit. Vince was right when he told Bret that 'WCW wouldn't know what to do with a Bret Hart.'

One of the GOaT gimmicks ever was bret callin out goldberg
And. Homie speared bret and bret had that metal plate on his abs and then pinned goldberg
Sayin he can beat him anytime he wanted

And then the goldberg bret feud at the end of 99

Unfortunately he got injured

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

Nothing in WCW ever made sense. Once you accept this fact, you can understand the interlocking fukkery machine that was that company.

edit: my power went out just as i hit the post button. WCW still fukking things up in 2019. cursed.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

One of the GOaT gimmicks ever was bret callin out goldberg
And. Homie speared bret and bret had that metal plate on his abs and then pinned goldberg
Sayin he can beat him anytime he wanted

And then the goldberg bret feud at the end of 99

Unfortunately he got injured

That was one of the most memorable angles in WCW post nWo shyt...

Also, Bret helped WCW break into Canada in a big way..

Did Scotch Hall help WCW break into Cuba?

Look Nash and Hall were important but the nWo doesnt work without that piece of shyt Hogan leading the way and we all know it..

 

[OH SOHH TRILL]

f*ck outta here.
I don't need any history lesson I was there.

bret gets a pass for flopping in WCW by WWF marks. aint no real WCW fans giving him a pass. theyre gonna call a spade. some of yall in here making up ridiculous excuses and/or trying to alter the subject because bret hart is a childhood nostalgic WWF figure, plus you have the WWE propaganda machine placing the blame on bischoff.

and none of that chit you talking has anything to do with BRET HART's WCW run. that chit affects the actual participants in the match. not no dam special referee. youre reaching like chit.

and if YOU were really there in real-time, you would know that it wasn't even bret's 1st appearance in WCW. he got a lukewarm welcome from the crowd when he 1st appeared on nitro, and a lukewarm reception when he came out on starrcade. and it continued on until they finally turned him heel, since he couldnt get over as a main event face. THATS THE CHIT THAT YOU SHOULD BE WORRIED ABOUT IN REGARDS TO BRET. not the outcome of a f*ckin sting/Hogan match.

Agreed, I’m a WCW mark and I gave and currently give 0 fukks about Bret Hart. Rick Rude, Madusa, Brian Adams, Dustin Rhodes, etc. etc. were all more exciting additions to me. Bret is just boring.

 

[R=G]

One of the GOaT gimmicks ever was bret callin out goldberg
And. Homie speared bret and bret had that metal plate on his abs and then pinned goldberg
Sayin he can beat him anytime he wanted

And then the goldberg bret feud at the end of 99

Unfortunately he got injured

The promo before Bret punked Goldberg was a legit money promo. He decimated Austin saying he beat him all the time and made a mockery out of the Goldberg gimmick.

 

[hayesc0]

I said what I said... Stop caping for these fukking wrestlers like they your buddies... its sick..

This has nothing to do with caping we talking about life or death shyt much bigger than wrestling. You on some bullshyt right now