Brehs, this picture of Jone Jones and Daniel Cormier. Cormier has hands full.
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1. He might be the best wrestler but even that ain't clear Yoel actually won a medal. To say he's the best MMA wrestler is an empty claim. Based on what? How is is MMA wrestling better than Weidman or Khabib? Because he slammed Barnett and 93 yo Hendo? Khabib slams people too.
2. Randy Couture is very relevant because he fought at 230lbs at HW and like I said he outwrestled Barnett easily. LHW are very close to 230lbs on fight night.
3. Rashad and Phil would wrestlefukk him. Barnett ain't a wrestler.
Gus is actually taller than Barnett and his striking is light years better than Barnetts. And since Gus has excellent Takedown defense, Barnetts sloppy takedowns won't do shyt. He got knocked out by Browne in 30 seconds, a Guy very similar in height to Gus.
4. Yeah he beat the has beens and cans of the division.
5. Dan Henderson would have lost either way that is true. But we have seen how much worse fighters perform off the TRT. Dude was Larry Holmes status and DC needed 3 rounds for a finish. I bet he couldn't finish Dan on TRT.
6. No he didn't. TRT Vitor came around years later. But Anderson finished a TRT Dan in his prime in rd2. Cormier couldn't finish downhill no TRT Dan until rd 3 7 years later.lol
7. Frank Mir is a has been on a 4 fight skid. Dude was done in the 2nd Nog fight. He was about to be tko'd when he submitted Big Nog. 2011.
and DC couldn't finish him. Smh.
8. And DC ain't either. He's a overweight welterweight.
You are a fukking moron
1. I said DC is the best wrestler in MMA not the best wrestler in the world, Cormier would beat Yoel ass, it's not about slamming, it's about technique yoel hasn't looked as impressive as cormier at anything
2. RANDY LOST THE FIGHT, HE LOST BY KO and it was over 10 years ago, what point are you trying to make it again it's not relevant
3. Rashad and Phil are too small to fight Barnett, until Gus fights a heavyweight you're just basing it on speculation and not fact, if that's the case why doesn't he moved up to heavyweight if it's so easy
4. Roy Nelson is a can now, okay, Dan Cormier was next in line for a title shyt, and moved down only because Cain is his training partner
5. Rashad and Machida couldn't finish them, but that's not beside the point he dominated him, the same way he would do they both of them
6. Vitor fought Jon Jones a year after Silva, what the fukk are you talking about
7. Frank Mir isn't the last heavyweight he beat, frank mir isn't a light heavyweight, size matters, just because light heavyweights are technically better fighters don't mean they can compete with biggers guys or a lot of them would've already moved up
8. LMAO, if DC is a overweight welterweight, then wouldn't the fact he dominated heavyweights speak volumes, you are making my case you fukking moron
1. Read the second part of that paragraph. How is he a better MMA wrestler than Weidman, Nurmagomedov or even Evans & Jones. Don't just make empty claims. Give your reasoning.
2. It is relevant because Barnett was a juicehead who stilled got dominated for 90% of the fight against a tiny Randy. He won because of the proverbial punchers chance. He's not that impressive of a win for Cormier. He was never a top guy or never on the level of the people Jones beat as champion.
3. Barnett is a slowmoving sloth. Rashad and Phil would weigh 230+lbs on fight night against a helpless Barnett who will be lost on the ground against high level wrestlers like them. Did you see what Davis did to Glover? 15 minutes of manhandling. Also all were doing here is speculation you idiot, but based on the facts Gus should easily beat Barnett. Better striking, taller, bigger reach, younger and excellent TD defense.
4. Roy Nelson is a limited one trick pony. He's one step above can. Cormier wasn't in line for a title shot, beating Nelson and Mir doesn't get you a title shot he moved down because he would eventually get a title shot against his friend Cain.
5. Dan was still on TRT against Rashad and Machida. Cormier fought the weakest Henderson ever, outweighed him by 35 pounds and still took over 10 minutes to finish him. And you just made an empty claim again.
6. 18 Months. Look at the difference:
Belfort @ 185 vs Silva http://usatmmajunkie.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/jon-jones-vitor-belfort.jpg
Belfort @ 205 vs Jones http://www.feedbackmag.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/ander_belfort_luta3.jpg
Belfort @ 185 vs Rockhold http://cdn2.cagepotato.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/1690254701.jpg
The clean Belfort who fought Silva looks nothing like the juiced Belfort against Jones and ROckhold.
7. Regardless of all that. Mir and Nelson are not impressive wins. Get over it.
You say these guys who beat Barnett easily but they haven't fought any heavyweights yet, what are you basing this one
Rashad barely eeked out a win against a bum at heavyweight what the fukk makes you think he can take on anyone at that weight who's somebody
Phil Davis sucks
Roy Nelson is one trick pony lol, you don't know shyt about MMA, one step above can he stood toe to toe JDS
230 lol
phil davis couldn't even take down rumble, get the fukk outta here
at 230 he would still be outweighed by 20 pounds at least at heavyweight
Cormier would dump Weidman on his head
Weidman is bigger than phil davis and cuts down to middleweight because he would get his ass kicked by jones
if cormier is garbage then UFC is garbage, because none of the guys you bring up can beat him
yes Henderson was washed up
BUT HE WAS NEXT IN LINE FOR THE TITLE SHOT
matter of fact he would've fought Jones if not for injury and chael sonnen took his place
so if this bum washed up Henderson was the number contender LHW, what does that say about the rest of the division
Rashad won TUF at heavyweight as a newcomer. He's much better now. His wrestling is good enough to manhandle Barnett on the ground and get a decision.
Phil Davis beat Glover Teixeria in the same way he would beat Barnett. Takedown and hold him down. Barnett would be helpless.
I don't think you know what toe to toe means. JDS beat him like a rented mule for 15 minutes. The o ly thing thay saved Nelson was his chin. Cormier couldn't even ko a worn out Mir.
Rumble is a wrestler with great tk defense. And make no mistake he would beat the dog shyt out of Barnett.
So what Cormier was outweighed by 20+lbs as well. Being too heavy is detrimental to cardio.
Cormier isn't dumping Weidman on his head in MMA. I doubt if he could beat him. Weidman has fought and defeated 2 legit killers and ex champions. Cormier hasn't.
Weidman would get his ass kicked by Jones. But so will Cormier. What's your point?
Cormier isn't garbage. He's overrated and will lose to JBJ. He might beat everyone else at 205 though.
Henderson was promised a title shot after his epic struggle with Shogun in 2011 because Jones jad already cleared out the division, there wasn't anyone else in 2011. After injuring himself he dropped 3 straight fights to Machida, Davis and TRT Vitor. The last one by nasty punches and headkicks. If TRT Hendo can't get a win what do you call a Hendo that's 2 years older and off the TRT? Washed up that's what.
By being a fat fukk. That's why Robbie knocked the crumbs out of his beard.
Which guy? Jones is every bit of 6'4" and Cormier is listed as 5'11" but is more like 5'9" (Rashad is 5'11")
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Straight out of the horses mouth btw:
http://www.mmafighting.com/2014/12/16/7401757/the-mma-hour-260-inside-the-vault
Watch at 6:55. Dude admits that 205ers better fighters than heavyweight which is why he was at heavyweight.
joeychizzle
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Cormier is basically gonna have to pull a Velasquez on Jones, but with added obstacles. It will be a thrilling match 
If Rashad is so much better why doesn't he move up and make a run for the title, being that the heavyweight division is trash, instead he is thinking of going down to middleweight, size is a factor
glover teixera is 6'2 205 barnett is 254, why are you even making this comparison, phil davis would have none of his advantages at heavyweight
i never said rumble couldn't beat barnett, he didn't finish arlovski at heayweight who's chin is garbage, but at least he fought up there, its a reason he's not a heavyweight in the UFC, but at least he won a heavyweight and you saw the difference between him and davis when they fought
if it so easier why not just fight at heavyweight and get the bell, Cain has beaten nothing but guys like antonio silva, who cormier also KO'd in the first
so why don't these LHW move up and get the belt then
phil couldn't do shyt with those HW
roy nelson was the first guy to test JDS in the UFC what are you talking about he won some exchanges with him
weidman has fought at middleweight, its weight classes for a reason, anderson silva could not be cormier nobody at middlweight can
weidman damn near got KO'd by Machida lol, cormer would mangle him
how is cormier overrated when you just said he could beat everyone else on 205, lol you make no sense
the 205ers are better fighters technincally, but size matters when guys have the same training
here's jons saying its a huge difference and a health risk
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