Brehs, this picture of Jone Jones and Daniel Cormier. Cormier has hands full.

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I love Spider and his run was insane but Bones record right now is just as good and some can argue even better than Silva's

Shogun>>> Franklin
is that based off of collective careers as in pride where corruption and juicing happened. Cuz if we are looking at just ufc careers :patrice:
Rampage= Hendo (arguable)
This is where the premise of this whole arguement gets distorted. As you know in mma styles make fights, so lookin at those fights given what you know which one of those opponents posed a bigger threat to the champion. Hendo is a USA wrestler nuff said. At the stage rampage faced Jones he had become balrog
Rashad>>>> Sonnen
much like above styles make fights, its not as simple as just picking who the better fighter is. Rashad couldn't use wrestling/had a shorter reach so all he could really do with Jones is play tag. We all know of what sonnen is good at and what Anderson lacks, because of that the sonnen wins are more significant and that's not me saying it that's mma history.
Gus>>>>Okami
Machida>>>> Leites
:ld:
glover>>Maia
I kind of forget, what exactly has Glover done again :why:
 
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The Hendo that Anderson beat was a better fighter than the Rampage that Jones beat. However, if Jones beats Cormier, Gus for the second time and then someone like Rumble, he'd definitely become the GOAT.

No way, Rampage was the same fighter, he's era is just over the new fighters are better athletes and more skilled

look at the manor jones beat rampage, Rampage has never been finished in the UFC except for Jones

hendo wouldn't get out the first round against jones
 

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Jones posted this picture about a week ago:



Jones is not that big, he's the perfect size for LHW. He has a relatively big upper body, but really thin legs.

With the picture you posted, Jones is closer to the camera so it makes him look even bigger. Cormier has fought at HW [against much bigger fighters than Jones] and done extremely well. Plus, he has olympic level wrestling, I think Cormier can definitely handle Jones' size [although his reach is going to an issue].

Here is an intense promo for their upcoming fight:


Both fighters have their hands full, this fight can go either way.


Jones getting KO'd

MAN:whew:


There is nothing I want more than to have DC get knocked the fukk out......... I want Jones to win for sure...... (idk how this will happen considering he can't box dc.. and idk if the elbows will work... and dc moves his bulkiness well on the ground) I think Jones will win on Points.....

I Previously chalked it up as a easy win for him despite Dc fighting BIG ASS dudes for all these years undeafeted .. basically man handling some of the largest fighters in the world.


But My girl opened my eyes :whoo: She been talking shyt for weeks :mjcry:

Showing me fight videos n shyt.. to prove.. DC is quick not slow... has great form, can basically control ANYBODY with his wrestling.. etc...
We watched all thier highlights.... and comcast has the thing were u can watch all the old fights in full from UFC

:merchant: I dont' know man.

Normally I'd be aight , because it's another black guy..... but I don't fukk with DC , the way he talks, his chubbyness, The entire way he acts... Plus Jones is the Gawd now that Silva is just playing around.
 

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There is nothing I want more than to have DC get knocked the fukk out......... I want Jones to win for sure...... (idk how this will happen considering he can't box dc.. and idk if the elbows will work... and dc moves his bulkiness well on the ground) I think Jones will win on Points.....

I Previously chalked it up as a easy win for him despite Dc fighting BIG ASS dudes for all these years undeafeted .. basically man handling some of the largest fighters in the world.


But My girl opened my eyes :whoo: She been talking shyt for weeks :mjcry:

Showing me fight videos n shyt.. to prove.. DC is quick not slow... has great form, can basically control ANYBODY with his wrestling.. etc...
We watched all thier highlights.... and comcast has the thing were u can watch all the old fights in full from UFC

:merchant: I dont' know man.

Normally I'd be aight , because it's another black guy..... but I don't fukk with DC , the way he talks, his chubbyness, The entire way he acts... Plus Jones is the Gawd now that Silva is just playing around.
Eh. He's quick compared to snail speed Barnett, Palelei, Nelson & Mir. Jones is quick himself, and at LHW at that. Cormier has never fought a single tier one fighter. Everyone he has fought has either been washed up or a can. Cormier has fought two wrestlers, one was a coffeeshop employee whom he tko'd and the other was 90 year old Dan Henderson who got outwrestled by Shogun. Jones is a high level wrestler himself, there won't be any wrestling domination. Yeah DC might get a takedown but his GNP is pathetic and he's too short. He'll just eat elbows.
DC isn't the first high level wrestler Jones has fought, he dominated Rashad, Bader & Hamill. The difference in their wrestling and DC might be somewhat big at pure wrestling but this is MMA.

DC stands no chance, he's the great substitute white hype and just like Gus before him he will get smashed.
 

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Eh. He's quick compared to snail speed Barnett, Palelei, Nelson & Mir. Jones is quick himself, and at LHW at that. Cormier has never fought a single tier one fighter. Everyone he has fought has either been washed up or a can. Cormier has fought two wrestlers, one was a coffeeshop employee whom he tko'd and the other was 90 year old Dan Henderson who got outwrestled by Shogun. Jones is a high level wrestler himself, there won't be any wrestling domination. Yeah DC might get a takedown but his GNP is pathetic and he's too short. He'll just eat elbows.
DC isn't the first high level wrestler Jones has fought, he dominated Rashad, Bader & Hamill. The difference in their wrestling and DC might be somewhat big at pure wrestling but this is MMA.

DC stands no chance, he's the great substitute white hype and just like Gus before him he will get smashed.
:mjcry: thanks for this breh.


I think my girl has been trying to brainwash me just because shes a fan of DC:wow: showing me videos n shyt...

Plus I have seen dc box sorta fast though.
 
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Eh. He's quick compared to snail speed Barnett, Palelei, Nelson & Mir. Jones is quick himself, and at LHW at that. Cormier has never fought a single tier one fighter. Everyone he has fought has either been washed up or a can. Cormier has fought two wrestlers, one was a coffeeshop employee whom he tko'd and the other was 90 year old Dan Henderson who got outwrestled by Shogun. Jones is a high level wrestler himself, there won't be any wrestling domination. Yeah DC might get a takedown but his GNP is pathetic and he's too short. He'll just eat elbows.
DC isn't the first high level wrestler Jones has fought, he dominated Rashad, Bader & Hamill. The difference in their wrestling and DC might be somewhat big at pure wrestling but this is MMA.

DC stands no chance, he's the great substitute white hype and just like Gus before him he will get smashed.

You have no clue what you are talking about, DC is olypmpic level, plus he would smash all three of those guys in a fight

He hasn't fought a tier one guy, Barnett is the same age as Machida, there's nobody at light heavyweight who can come up to heavyweight and beat barnet
he's too big

Dan Henderson was watched up, but nobody destroyed him like DC did, Machida struggled with him and he damn near KO Weidman
DC wasn't just out wrestled, he was manhanlded, he stood no chance

Jones went 4 rounds with Vitor who is fighting at middleweight, we've never seen Jones fight anybody near the weight of the people Cormier dominated so you are understating that

DC is quicker at light heavyweight than at heavyweight because he's at a weight that better suits his body frame, so he will be stronger and faster
which is proof by his 2 finishes at LHW like breeze

there aren't many top tier guys in the UFC or all of MMA period, so he beat the guys he had to beat to get a shot

Rashad's days has a championship contender are over, bader is irrelevant and so his Hamill, they couldn't hold DC's jock

the only young in his prime guy jones has fight was Gus, all the top fighters in MMA are old
 

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There is nothing I want more than to have DC get knocked the fukk out......... I want Jones to win for sure...... (idk how this will happen considering he can't box dc.. and idk if the elbows will work... and dc moves his bulkiness well on the ground) I think Jones will win on Points.....

I Previously chalked it up as a easy win for him despite Dc fighting BIG ASS dudes for all these years undeafeted .. basically man handling some of the largest fighters in the world.


But My girl opened my eyes :whoo: She been talking shyt for weeks :mjcry:

Showing me fight videos n shyt.. to prove.. DC is quick not slow... has great form, can basically control ANYBODY with his wrestling.. etc...
We watched all thier highlights.... and comcast has the thing were u can watch all the old fights in full from UFC

:merchant: I dont' know man.

Normally I'd be aight , because it's another black guy..... but I don't fukk with DC , the way he talks, his chubbyness, The entire way he acts... Plus Jones is the Gawd now that Silva is just playing around.


At that weight too he is just so much stronger, this is one of those the longer the fight goes the better odds for DC.
 

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You have no clue what you are talking about, DC is olypmpic level, plus he would smash all three of those guys in a fight

He hasn't fought a tier one guy, Barnett is the same age as Machida, there's nobody at light heavyweight who can come up to heavyweight and beat barnet
he's too big

Dan Henderson was watched up, but nobody destroyed him like DC did, Machida struggled with him and he damn near KO Weidman
DC wasn't just out wrestled, he was manhanlded, he stood no chance

Jones went 4 rounds with Vitor who is fighting at middleweight, we've never seen Jones fight anybody near the weight of the people Cormier dominated so you are understating that

DC is quicker at light heavyweight than at heavyweight because he's at a weight that better suits his body frame, so he will be stronger and faster
which is proof by his 2 finishes at LHW like breeze

there aren't many top tier guys in the UFC or all of MMA period, so he beat the guys he had to beat to get a shot

Rashad's days has a championship contender are over, bader is irrelevant and so his Hamill, they couldn't hold DC's jock

the only young in his prime guy jones has fight was Gus, all the top fighters in MMA are old

Everything favors Jones in this fight. :manny:

Wrestling may be DC's strength, but Jones is no slouch. Remember GSP? One of the best wrestlers in MMA that was not even a traditonal wrestler. Even if Jones got taken down, I don't see DC finishing him or even doing much damage. While DC may be stronger than Jones, I can't look into that too much either because remember Cain beating the snot out of Lesnar? And even if its because GSP is special. Velasquez is special. Jones is as unique a talent as you'll ever see in MMA history, so I'm not even going to limit him to normal conventions.

DC may have good showings at LHW, but, that is Jones' world. Plus its not like the guy just overlooks his opponents and wings it going into his title fights. Dude is actually kind of scientific with his gameplans. I wouldn't be surprised if the wrestling was a stalemate. Like many have before, I fear DC will simply run out of options, aside from rocking Jones with one big shot.
 
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Everything favors Jones in this fight. :manny:

Wrestling may be DC's strength, but Jones is no slouch. Remember GSP? One of the best wrestlers in MMA that was not even a traditonal wrestler. Even if Jones got taken down, I don't see DC finishing him or even doing much damage. While DC may be stronger than Jones, I can't look into that too much either because remember Cain beating the snot out of Lesnar? And even if its because GSP is special. Velasquez is special. Jones is as unique a talent as you'll ever see in MMA history, so I'm not even going to limit him to normal conventions.

DC may have good showings at LHW, but, that is Jones' world. Plus its not like the guy just overlooks his opponents and wings it going into his title fights. Dude is actually kind of scientific with his gameplans. I wouldn't be surprised if the wrestling was a stalemate. Like many have before, I fear DC will simply run out of options, aside from rocking Jones with one big shot.

GSP is bigger than everyone in his weight class and he's never been up against an athlete like DC
its a dumb comparison

Lesnar is better than Cormier at anything, cormier is an Olympic level wrestling

Jon jones isn't a cain, we never seen jones against opponent he could dominant with size except for gus, and he had problems, couldn't even keep him down and he's not a wrestler

DC has had more than good showings at LHW, it's dominations, guys didn't belong in the cage with him, only challenge for him is jones, the fact he was a heavyweight contender speaks volumes, no other LHW can go up to heavyweight and contend for the belt

once again, jones only advantage is height, which really doesn't mean anything

this will be jones' biggest test
 

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GSP is bigger than everyone in his weight class and he's never been up against an athlete like DC
its a dumb comparison

Lesnar is better than Cormier at anything, cormier is an Olympic level wrestling

Jon jones isn't a cain, we never seen jones against opponent he could dominant with size except for gus, and he had problems, couldn't even keep him down and he's not a wrestler

DC has had more than good showings at LHW, it's dominations, guys didn't belong in the cage with him, only challenge for him is jones, the fact he was a heavyweight contender speaks volumes, no other LHW can go up to heavyweight and contend for the belt

once again, jones only advantage is height, which really doesn't mean anything

this will be jones' biggest test

That's kind of the point of the GSP comparison. It doesn't make sense for GSP to outwrestle guys that are above his league. But he just does anyway.

Yeah, you're right that Jones hasn't fought guys substantially larger than him, except for Gus who is the same size, bigger legs. But I was talking more about the strength. And he's been in the cage with guys that have KO power.

You are way off on the advantages though. As far as winning this championship fight, Jones has:

- height
- normal weight class at which he trains for and fights at
- more versatile striking
- reach
- main event experience (it helps with the mental)
- he's in or entering his prime
- solid game plan
- adapt on the fly if necessary (eg Bader choke)
- lol and just to throw it in, defending champion perk (to be the champ you gotta beat the champ)

Yeah, I know all that means squat if he gets knocked out right? But to somewhat analyze the fight, we have to bring these things up. Otherwise it's just Jones will KO DC or DC will KO Jones.

I will concede that DC is stronger. But again, we'll wait and see how it can be effectively applied. Jones height coupled with effective wrestling makes him look deceptively strong. Cormier is the olympic level wrestler. Okay. We'll see how he applies it vs Jones.
 
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