Brehs, this picture of Jone Jones and Daniel Cormier. Cormier has hands full.

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:mjlol: There's gonna be a lot of Jones fans who will be mad as fukk on Jan. 3.

Lol, in the fight game, people only get riled up if there is fukkery in the fight or outcome. If DC knocks Jone the fukk out or submits him, nobody's tripping. :manny:
 

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You have no clue what you are talking about,
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DC is olypmpic level, plus he would smash all three of those guys in a fight
How much better is an Olympic wrestler than a NCAA All American in an MMA setting?

Also I doubt he would smash Rashad. That's just you drinking the kool aid. Could he defeat him with a decision? Yes. Smash him? :camby:


He hasn't fought a tier one guy, Barnett is the same age as Machida, there's nobody at light heavyweight who can come up to heavyweight and beat barnet
he's too big
The only time Barnett won a UFC belt was when he was juiced to the gills against Couture. If you actually watched the fight the much smaller Couture manhandled the juicehead before Barnett reversed him once in the whole fight and Couture glass jaw gave out. Dude got finished by Travis Browne in 30 seconds. Jon Jones would beat the brakes off of Barnett. So would Rashad, Phil Davis and Gus. Get serious.

Dan Henderson was watched up, but nobody destroyed him like DC did, Machida struggled with him and he damn near KO Weidman
You're a moron. Dan Henderson was on TRT since 2007. The only person he has beat in the last 3 years is a even more washed up Shogun. Dan Henderson hit Machida maybe two times in 3 rounds. A 230lbs DC fought a 195lbs fresh off of TRT Dan Henderson and even then it took him 3 rounds to finish the fight. Jon Jones would have LITERALLY killed Dan Henderson within 5 minutes. You would have seen leaked pictures of Dan's corpse in the morgue.

Jones went 4 rounds with Vitor who is fighting at middleweight, we've never seen Jones fight anybody near the weight of the people Cormier dominated so you are understating that
Oh you mean the TRT Vitor who knocked out DC's butt buddy Luke Rockhold in RD1 with a heel kick?
The TRT Vitor who FINISHED Dan Henderson, who took DC into RD3, in RD1 via strikes?
TRT Vitor is a better fighter than anyone DC has ever fought in his life ya dummy.
DC has been getting props fighting overgrown snails and cans.


DC is quicker at light heavyweight than at heavyweight because he's at a weight that better suits his body frame, so he will be stronger and faster
which is proof by his 2 finishes at LHW like breeze
:camby:Faster compared to fat DC maybe. Not faster compared to Jon Jones who is among the fastest light heavyweights. Beating Mr.Barista and low Vitamin Dan is a joke. Erick Silva can crush can too. He must be a real threat. :smugbiden:


there aren't many top tier guys in the UFC or all of MMA period, so he beat the guys he had to beat to get a shot
He couldn't even finish Frank Mir. Dude has only fought has beens and cans.

Rashad's days has a championship contender are over, bader is irrelevant and so his Hamill, they couldn't hold DC's jock
You idiot. All three of those have higher level wrestling, based on their achievements, than Jon Jones. But did it matter in an MMA fight? No it didn't Jon Jones murdered them. DC's Olympic wrestling won't be that big of a factor. This is MMA.

the only young in his prime guy jones has fight was Gus, all the top fighters in MMA are old
Beating 31 year old former champions is hella more impressive than beating 35-43 year old former never been shyts.[/QUOTE]
 

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DC would destroy Evans in a fight. Evans can be chinny sometimes and he ain't outwrestling Cormier.
Apparently getting knocked out once in 19 fights makes you chinny now. How much more can you lower the bar?
 
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How much better is an Olympic wrestler than a NCAA All American in an MMA setting?

Also I doubt he would smash Rashad. That's just you drinking the kool aid. Could he defeat him with a decision? Yes. Smash him? :camby:



The only time Barnett won a UFC belt was when he was juiced to the gills against Couture. If you actually watched the fight the much smaller Couture manhandled the juicehead before Barnett reversed him once in the whole fight and Couture glass jaw gave out. Dude got finished by Travis Browne in 30 seconds. Jon Jones would beat the brakes off of Barnett. So would Rashad, Phil Davis and Gus. Get serious.


You're a moron. Dan Henderson was on TRT since 2007. The only person he has beat in the last 3 years is a even more washed up Shogun. Dan Henderson hit Machida maybe two times in 3 rounds. A 230lbs DC fought a 195lbs fresh off of TRT Dan Henderson and even then it took him 3 rounds to finish the fight. Jon Jones would have LITERALLY killed Dan Henderson within 5 minutes. You would have seen leaked pictures of Dan's corpse in the morgue.


Oh you mean the TRT Vitor who knocked out DC's butt buddy Luke Rockhold in RD1 with a heel kick?
The TRT Vitor who FINISHED Dan Henderson, who took DC into RD3, in RD1 via strikes?
TRT Vitor is a better fighter than anyone DC has ever fought in his life ya dummy.
DC has been getting props fighting overgrown snails and cans.



:camby:Faster compared to fat DC maybe. Not faster compared to Jon Jones who is among the fastest light heavyweights. Beating Mr.Barista and low Vitamin Dan is a joke. Erick Silva can crush can too. He must be a real threat. :smugbiden:



He couldn't even finish Frank Mir. Dude has only fought has beens and cans.


You idiot. All three of those have higher level wrestling, based on their achievements, than Jon Jones. But did it matter in an MMA fight? No it didn't Jon Jones murdered them. DC's Olympic wrestling won't be that big of a factor. This is MMA.


Beating 31 year old former champions is hella more impressive than beating 35-43 year old former never been shyts.
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Cormier is the BEST wrestler in MMA without question, stop just stop there, he's also a way better fighter than Brock

You seem to understand the difference between heavyweight and light heavyweight, he beat couture in 2002, shyt isn't even relevant in reason years

Travis Browne is a heavyweight

Rashard can't beat him, he dropped down to light heavyweight for a reason, he never would've been able to compete against the top guys he's too small
phil davis based on what, we never seen him fight a heavyweight, neither has Gus, you seem to forget there's huge a gap of weight in the class, until you actually see how they handle bigger guys you are just making assumptions based on nothing in reality, we saw what Cormier could do at heavyweight he never lost a round against much bigger guys, jones is bigger than him still and he's coming down a class


Dan Henderson could've been on TRT or steroids, or venom, so would vitor, they would still be beaten easily by cormier he's a better fighter

Anderson finished TRT victor with one kick lol

you can diss frank mir all you want, he's a big guy, cormier gave up a lot of size to him a lot of other guys and easily managed

we've never seen jones fight anybody physically bigger and stronger than him, so once you again what are you basing your opnion

nothing

like I said this is the best fighter oes
 
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That's kind of the point of the GSP comparison. It doesn't make sense for GSP to outwrestle guys that are above his league. But he just does anyway.

Yeah, you're right that Jones hasn't fought guys substantially larger than him, except for Gus who is the same size, bigger legs. But I was talking more about the strength. And he's been in the cage with guys that have KO power.

You are way off on the advantages though. As far as winning this championship fight, Jones has:

- height
- normal weight class at which he trains for and fights at
- more versatile striking
- reach
- main event experience (it helps with the mental)
- he's in or entering his prime
- solid game plan
- adapt on the fly if necessary (eg Bader choke)
- lol and just to throw it in, defending champion perk (to be the champ you gotta beat the champ)

Yeah, I know all that means squat if he gets knocked out right? But to somewhat analyze the fight, we have to bring these things up. Otherwise it's just Jones will KO DC or DC will KO Jones.

I will concede that DC is stronger. But again, we'll wait and see how it can be effectively applied. Jones height coupled with effective wrestling makes him look deceptively strong. Cormier is the olympic level wrestler. Okay. We'll see how he applies it vs Jones.

Things I'm not even arguing that Cormier is going to win, I don't know

but acting like this is an easy fight is retarded, this is jones best challenger and he knows it
 

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Eh. He's quick compared to snail speed Barnett, Palelei, Nelson & Mir. Jones is quick himself, and at LHW at that.

I don't think either fighter holds a significant speed advantage. I would give the edge to Jones, but both their speeds are comparable.

Cormier has never fought a single tier one fighter. Everyone he has fought has either been washed up or a can. Cormier has fought two wrestlers, one was a coffeeshop employee whom he tko'd and the other was 90 year old Dan Henderson who got outwrestled by Shogun.

Bigfoot, Barnett and Mir were not cans or washed up when Cormier beat them. Each of one of those 3 fighters were a top 10 HW when Cormier beat them.

Jones is a high level wrestler himself, there won't be any wrestling domination. Yeah DC might get a takedown but his GNP is pathetic and he's too short. He'll just eat elbows.
DC isn't the first high level wrestler Jones has fought, he dominated Rashad, Bader & Hamill. The difference in their wrestling and DC might be somewhat big at pure wrestling but this is MMA.

Both are high level wrestlers, but Cormier has shown to be the better wrestler of the two.

Rashad, Bader and Hamill are not comparable to Cormier wrestling wise. Cormier is an elite MMA wrestler, he's easily the best wrestler that Jones has faced. But, the same goes for Cormier, Jones is the best wrestler he's faced in MMA. In an MMA setting, I would give the clear wrestling advantage to Cormier.

DC stands no chance, he's the great substitute white hype and just like Gus before him he will get smashed.

Like I said, the odds on this fight are almost 50/50, if you think Cormier stands no chance, bet the house on Jones then. And I'm not talking about Coli cash. To say DC has no chance is laughable. He's the best fighter that Jones has faced.
 

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:mjcry: thanks for this breh.


I think my girl has been trying to brainwash me just because shes a fan of DC:wow: showing me videos n shyt...

Plus I have seen dc box sorta fast though.

DC is the best fighter that Jones has faced. Don't listen to anyone that says that he has no chance, they're clueless. Ask any avid MMA fan and they will tell you that Cormier is the real deal. One of the major reasons why this fight is so big is that Cormier has a legitimate shot at beating Jones. And like I said, the odds on this fight are almost even with Jones being around a -140 favorite. Since becoming champion, Jones has been at least a 3-1 favorite in all his fights, in this upcoming fight he's a slight favorite, that gives you a good idea of Cormier's chances.
 
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