Brehs, are we ever going to have a SERIOUS discussion about the PHOENIX SUNS and Kevin Durant?
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resistanze
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The KD caping on this forum is something to behold.
Y’all saw tonight’s game right?
We saw something similar those early months in BK when KD and Kyrie were lit but BK’s record was dark
JesusFOREVER
Superstar
KD leaving the warriors might go down as one of the dumbest moves in sports history- he thought he was gonna pull a gotcha on Steph n em and win a chip by himself only for it to backfire tremendously and leave the door open for them to win one without him instead- now his legacy is in the mud 
Great player- horrific GM and doesn’t understand what it takes to build a championship contending team
Great player- horrific GM and doesn’t understand what it takes to build a championship contending team
murksiderock
Superstar
The Durant thing is easy to me. Historically great player, but not a guy who could consistently drive championship contention as he aged, in large part because he was injured alot, but also because his only historically impactful skill is scoring...
He had a 9-year stretch where he was in 7 WCFs in 9 years. But if you look back to those 9 years, those teams were perfectly built around him, he could simply add his historically great scoring and those teams were great. Soon as he was on rosters that had severe limitations in other areas (in the backcourt, or in the front court, or defending the perimeter, or defending the interior, or rebounding, or playmaking, etc etc etc)....soon as he was on rosters with huge weaknesses in multiple areas, it exposed that his historically great scoring wasn't enough to overcome these deficiencies...
Which shouldn't be a surprise. NBA history is filled with historically great scorers from Gervin to Iverson who had no major superpower besides scoring output, and largely played on teams who were deficient in too many areas, to maximize that scoring output to a championship level consistently...
Also, we saw snippets of this in his heyday in OKC. Those Thunder teams weren't weak in many areas, but when they lost in the playoffs, it was because their team weakness was exposed, and it exposed that Durant's scoring could be thrown off kilter...
That 9-year stretch of always being in the WCF ended in 2019. Since then he's never been outta the Semis, and most years it's not close. He's also older, in a league where scoring has increased throughout his career, so his scoring also isn't as impactful as it once was----->there are more elite scorers in the NBA today than there was, say, a decade ago when he was 26. His scoring doesn't stand out as much anymore, as it did then...
His career will also highlight how historically great players should probably be great in more than one area, and how leadership is a fundamental of the Top of the Top guys ever. Durant isn't a strong enough leader...
As it stands now he's GOAT15 but that's a precarious placement, he can easily be passed by Jokic and Giannis really soon...
High scoring individuals was only a thing in the 90s and the aughts...post Jordan and during the slowest lowest scoring period ever. Its basic math. 30 out of 85 or 90 is far more significant than 30 out of 115 or 120. There was actually a time when it was believed that you could not lead a team to success as a high scorer. Its funny, dudes like Gervin and Thompson and King were simultaneously more appreciated and marginalized. Mike himself caught hell until he actually broke through.
My biggest gripe with Durant is actually that he wasn't as dominant a scorer as he is given credit for...when it was needed the most that is. Sure he had his 25-32 like clockwork. But when the team needed 40 or more he often didnt deliver it. Way too may wtf scoring droughts when you got an unstoppable, unblockable 7 footer with that kinda range.
LocRocket80
Rookie
Who your top 5 all time?
Diondon
Thanks to the lawyers uh, I marbled the foyer
This nikka aint even in the play-in 
Should have never left GS
square up with Draymond instead of running like a hoe
Should have never left GS
square up with Draymond instead of running like a hoe
Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
Team is run by ignorant coaches that refuses to give bol bol time.
Every team that fukks over bop bol.
I have said fukk you to and will not watch.
Plus kd got put out to pasture by Tatum.
Yet nikkaz be trying to flaug. Just like this thread said. To not give Tatum his props. For sending kd out to the glue factory. Kd is only three dribble drill at best now.
Although kd has tried to flaug like he was more mobile this season at times. Dude still only three step drills on offense and it is predictable. Which is why they lose. This new owners is a moron who thinks in nba2k. Who tried ti revenue grab and make people oay extrs. Sohh you had to get league pass and another max seevice contract. To even watch. While revenue grabbing in poor faith. Trots this loser shyt out there with the solution on the bench. Yet refuses to use the 2k player come to life in bol bol.
fukk this team.
Team is better on a video game.
All because of some goof lame agenda white people have always had in hoops. Where they just hold players back. Based on racism and propaganda bullshyt.
Basketball has a coaching problem. Where coaches are not forthright. Imo I feel basketball coaches don't know the game at all. Yrt give this headfake like they knowing. When I usually can't tell.
if they know a cot damn thing. As well as being trying to be rupp from Kentucky racist as well.
Art Barr
Every team that fukks over bop bol.
I have said fukk you to and will not watch.
Plus kd got put out to pasture by Tatum.
Yet nikkaz be trying to flaug. Just like this thread said. To not give Tatum his props. For sending kd out to the glue factory. Kd is only three dribble drill at best now.
Although kd has tried to flaug like he was more mobile this season at times. Dude still only three step drills on offense and it is predictable. Which is why they lose. This new owners is a moron who thinks in nba2k. Who tried ti revenue grab and make people oay extrs. Sohh you had to get league pass and another max seevice contract. To even watch. While revenue grabbing in poor faith. Trots this loser shyt out there with the solution on the bench. Yet refuses to use the 2k player come to life in bol bol.
fukk this team.
Team is better on a video game.
All because of some goof lame agenda white people have always had in hoops. Where they just hold players back. Based on racism and propaganda bullshyt.
Basketball has a coaching problem. Where coaches are not forthright. Imo I feel basketball coaches don't know the game at all. Yrt give this headfake like they knowing. When I usually can't tell.
if they know a cot damn thing. As well as being trying to be rupp from Kentucky racist as well.
Art Barr
In The Zone '98
Superstar
KD leaving the warriors might go down as one of the dumbest moves in sports history- he thought he was gonna pull a gotcha on Steph n em and win a chip by himself only for it to backfire tremendously and leave the door open for them to win one without him instead- now his legacy is in the mud
Great player- horrific GM and doesn’t understand what it takes to build a championship contending team
We talk about why KD left all the time. With video evidence
And you still write this fan fiction, lol
murksiderock
Superstar
He definitely isn't as great a scorer as is spoken of. I've spoken out about this on here. I do not think he's a greater scorer than LeBron, and it's for this very reason----->Bron wasn't prone to the droughts KD was susceptible to, and Bron has simply more, bigger scoring performances, vs elite defenses, the later the playoff round, throughout his career. It really isn't close...
I cant recall if it was a thread specifically dedicated to it, or if it was a sidebar convo within a thread, but there was a conversation on here years back, probably around the pandemic era, where guys posted the scoring of LeBron, Durant, Kobe, and i believe someone else. It was itemized by playoff round and opponent, and how strong said opponent's defense was, relative to the NBA that season...
So yeah this calling out of, "is Durant that great a historical scorer", we did this on here before. It might've been around the time you were on sabbatical
...Bron
Mike
Kareem
Magic
Are my four, in that order. My #5 is fluid. I lean Bird, but you can make the case for Russell or Duncan there...
If I didn't write their name here, I don't even entertain them in my Top 5. They simply aren't in the discussion for me...
