Brehs, are we ever going to have a SERIOUS discussion about the PHOENIX SUNS and Kevin Durant?

[Redguard]

all these goofballs keep insisting that KD is underrated and disrespected and he's better than bron and all this shyt - KD is empty calories if there isnt a real leader on the team to make sure his productivity is for winning basketball. sadly, i had to finally accept that booker isnt a real leader and we are stuck with this untradable quiet quitter from washington dc. fukk!!!

Cokeboy Mat let us down




Somewhere Sarver is laughing at the Suns

 

[Shadow King]

This is revisionist hater ish. Thats the problem. People judge him at competing extremes. Dude is firmly a top 15 player of all time. That’s definitely exceeding the expectations of a number 2 overall pick. Stop and think of all the top 5 picks over the past 18 years (his career) and how many hold a candle to him?

The youngest scoring champ ever, MVP, four straight scoring titles, perennial all nba, 7 different WCF appearances, 2 finals MVPs, etc. But you’re on that bullshyt that you can’t be great unless you “made the team” which makes no sense and is ahistorical. Durant’s problem is that he ever listened to you guys.

You projecting your own feelings...

 

[Reggie]

They should have kept Vogel and see if he could have improved on his first season but coaching isn't the issue. Beal not being a dominant scorer anymore isn't what they acquired him for. And that trade has now set them back years when maybe they should have just ran it back with Chris Paul considering they have been looking for a table setter ever since. Like others have said Booker gets no fault for being the best player on mostly medocre teams his whole career. He's never taken that next level either to that 30-32 ppg level that his talent suggest he could be.

 

[FTBS]

They should have kept Vogel and see if he could have improved on his first season but coaching isn't the issue. Beal not being a dominant scorer anymore isn't what they acquired him for. And that trade has now set them back years when maybe they should have just ran it back with Chris Paul considering they have been looking for a table setter ever since. Like others have said Booker gets no fault for being the best player on mostly medocre teams his whole career. He's never taken that next level either to that 30-32 ppg level that his talent suggest he could be.

I agree about Vogel. Not sure what he did or didn't do to get fired. Beal was never a dominant scorer. He was exactly what you said Booker was. Book was the leading scorer on a team that went to the Finals. Outside of being best player on a chip team, which I dont think is a fair expectation, what more you want from him. You expect him to score more with KD and then Beal added?

 

[who_better_than_me]

No thank you as a Mavs fan

I want Daryl dumbass Morey to trade Maxey to the Mavs for Kyrie

Bring Maxey home

Mavs get KD and that’s going to force Ad to play the 5, Right?

 

[Dem313wayz]

Don't know how the numbers play out but I felt OKC should have tried to get Durant at the deadline.

I don't think Williams will be a consistent 2nd option in the playoffs

 

[Joe Sixpack]

Don't know how the numbers play out but I felt OKC should have tried to get Durant at the deadline.

I don't think Williams will be a consistent 2nd option in the playoffs

Jalen Williams is nice and he's coming into his own

KD doesn't fit their timeline

 

[Surreal]

Mavs get KD and that’s going to force Ad to play the 5, Right?

No. We still got Lively at the 5 and Afford

I just don't want KD

 

[Dem313wayz]

Jalen Williams is nice and he's coming into his own

KD doesn't fit their timeline

I hate the timeline in sports. There's no guarantee that you'll win a championship with a 3 year window.

KD would make them champions and I would give up Williams and those draft picks if it took to get KD

 

[Reggie]

I agree about Vogel. Not sure what he did or didn't do to get fired. Beal was never a dominant scorer. He was exactly what you said Booker was. Book was the leading scorer on a team that went to the Finals. Outside of being best player on a chip team, which I dont think is a fair expectation, what more you want from him. You expect him to score more with KD and then Beal added?

He's also been the leading scorer on some of the worse teams in the league too. That team was led by CP3 and they were surrounded by some great role players. Booker was not extra special during that post season run if I remember correctly. It's not about necessarily scoring more. But I haven't seen that leap from him to superstar status that many try to put him on. He's a rung below the Shai's and Luka's of the world and I think Antman has surpassed him too. He's a great player whose numbers will get him in the Hall of Fame but we probably can say the same thing about Derozan. Doesn't make then untradeable though.

 

[Joe Sixpack]

I hate the timeline in sports. There's no guarantee that you'll win a championship with a 3 year window.

KD would make them champions and I would give up Williams and those draft picks if it took to get KD

KD is too weird

It sounds good on paper though

 

[BaldingSoHard]

They just need to admit it’s a bust. They don’t even control any of their first round picks until 2032

 

[FTBS]

He's also been the leading scorer on some of the worse teams in the league too. That team was led by CP3 and they were surrounded by some great role players. Booker was not extra special during that post season run if I remember correctly. It's not about necessarily scoring more. But I haven't seen that leap from him to superstar status that many try to put him on. He's a rung below the Shai's and Luka's of the world and I think Antman has surpassed him too. He's a great player whose numbers will get him in the Hall of Fame but we probably can say the same thing about Derozan. Doesn't make then untradeable though.

I dont hear D. Booker hype like that. He is what he is. I dont see how its reasonable to expect him to magically become something significantly greater in his late 20s. Everybody aint that dude.

 

[FS4LFE]

He doesn’t make good decisions when it’s time to be a free agent or request a trade.

Kyrie was a weirdo before he went to the Nets and KD should have seen that coming. The trade to the Suns was fine on paper until they gutted the team for Beal.

Stop making excuses for him. He’s still a great player but sometimes that isn’t good enough.

 

[Reggie]

I dont hear D. Booker hype like that. He is what he is. I dont see how its reasonable to expect him to magically become something significantly greater in his late 20s. Everybody aint that dude.

At 28 in year number 10 I wouldn't. It's the fact that he's been the same 26-27 ppg scorer since he was 21/22 when his game suggests he could do so much more. Everything ain't scoring. You're 6'6. Go out there and grab 6 or 7 boards one season. You've been touted as a shooter. Shoot 40 percent once from 3 then. He's never been a BAD defender but never a GREAT one either.