Breh makes 500k as a self taught software Engineer

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One thing to keep in mind in this comparison is that just by being in college pursuing a CS/related degree, you're able to apply for (paying) internships with companies. Some companies will offer you a full time position once you've finished your degree if they like you enough during your internship. There's internships out there that are open to people who aren't pursuing CS degrees, but they're few and far between.

My recommendation to anyone is if you're interested in a career in tech and college is an option for you, go for your bachelor's in CS. It's not impossible to get your foot in the door without it, but it's a lot harder and will require more grinding on your part. Doubly so if you don't have a bachelor's degree at all.
This is sound advice, it’s harder cause people don’t know how to sell themselves, traditional college gives you all the resources to sell yourself.

On the flip side, Everybody that went to college knows MULTIPLE people that didn’t land a job when they graduated or never landed a job in tech. Majority of these people just passed their classes and did nothing else, no networking, no tech clubs, no career center, no internships, no TA or study hall positions. It’s the same thing
 

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Good for him but I don’t recommend that route. I started out with no degree it’s definitely a setback.

As a CS grad, i wouldn't recommend a bootcamp for people trying to get into software development.
A majority of jobs that I have seen so far...require a CS degree and for every 10 people that go through
a bootcamp ...i would say that 2-3 are able to get a job right away.

Plus without a CS degree , you dont have that high of a ceiling.

I don't have a degree, but i'm making over 6 figures as an SE now. I'm smart and I hustled a lot, but a lot of my success was simply due to luck. I wouldn't be anywhere near where i'm at now, had I not been at the right place at the right time.

I agree that a degree is definitely a better option, specifically for that first job. The market for juniors is pretty saturated, so if it comes down to picking a junior with a CS degree vs one without one, they're almost always going to bet on the one with a CS degree.

However...

This only really applies for your first job. Once you have a few years experience, literally no one gives a fukk. Experience >>>> degrees. I have about 4 years experience and I have recruiters from everywhere from startups to Amazon, FB and google blowing up my linkedin, trying to set up interviews with me. Once you get a few years of experience, the game is on easy mode pretty much, especially now.
 

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I wish we bragged less as a ppl


If I made 500k absolutely no one would know about it but me



Not even my mama

I get what you saying but unfortunately you have to mention an estimated amount to garner more views. In brehs case he earns a base salary, plus a bonus and stock options. Which in a good year it can equate to 500k, or it can be much less.
 

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How is he making that much when even top engineers at silicon valley aren't earning that much:mjtf:

Unless he owns his own software company, there's no where any software engineer is earning that as a salary:hubie:
 

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How is he making that much when even top engineers at silicon valley aren't earning that much:mjtf:

Unless he owns his own software company, there's no where any software engineer is earning that as a salary:hubie:

This isn't really true. Top engineers at silicon Valley can definitely make 500K easy if we talking TC (Base pay, stock and bonuses). Even some juniors right out of college are making 200k now (though they're the outliers, like stanford grads working at google). The market and pay, really exploded these past few years.

But even with that in mind dude is still an outlier. It's far from impossible but it is rare.
 

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You can leetcode your way into that TC too.

Edit: I'll recommend get a degree though. Tech is doing good now and engineers, bootcamp or degreed, are in demand but if that ever change I feel places would tighten up and filter out bootcamp candidates. Also there is no gauranteed that you'll like tech or not get washed out like many people do. So having a degree to fall back on something else is important

yes and no. Maybe for certain roles and maybe managerial, but school only teaches you so much. If you can pick up code yourself and right good code then you will never have a problem getting a job. Experience and ability to learn is extremely important. Still seeing new grads who are very limited.

still the best route is to go to school and get your degree.
 

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The lead developer on my team doesn't have a degree but knows his shyt. When you go for an interview and they give you real problems to solve, it don't matter if you have a degree or not. They want someone who's gonna give the most logical and efficient answer.
 
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