Breh makes 500k as a self taught software Engineer

[perfectblack999]

Interesting argument in here. On one hand, yes anything is possible and there should be minimal gate keeping. On the other hand, breaking into the industry without the formal education + the racial discrimination is going to take an intense amount of dedication. Dedication that I haven’t seen in 90% of people.

Neither side it wrong. I work in tech (in Product) and have a “traditional” degree (computer engineering).

 

[Steel]

As someone who works in the industry. If your under 25 get a degree. If your a breh still living at home with no kids and are 25-30 I would still get a degree. There are programs where you can accelerate and finish under 2.5 years.

If your above that age go the boot camp or self teach but self teaching is extremely difficult if your not used to it. Boot camps are better they force you to focus. After your 6 months to a year build projects. Network and shoot your shot

 

[HoldThisL]

As someone who works in the industry. If your under 25 get a degree. If your a breh still living at home with no kids and are 25-30 I would still get a degree. There are programs where you can accelerate and finish under 2.5 years.

If your above that age go the boot camp or self teach but self teaching is extremely difficult if your not used to it. Boot camps are better they force you to focus. After your 6 months to a year build projects. Network and shoot your shot

This is one of the hardest concepts I have had to learn for the past 2-3 years, and I am still not a master at it. 50% of my time studying for certs was more dedicated to learning how to self-learn in a efficient way.

-It is hard when you don't have any structure
-no professor to go to or classmates to help you when you get stuck
-spending thousands of hours on Google for one topic,
-too many resources to pick from that you have no clear direction,
-being in tutorial hell,
-lack of motivation & discipline,
-time management etc.

A degree helps with most of the things above, so it makes your life easier. You still don't really need one though unless you shooting for upper level supervisory roles.

 

[The Radiant One]

nikkas keep saying this shyt is unrealistic but nikkas will glorify rappers and nba stars which is far more unrealistic. This breh is legit and even if you can't make it to 500k you can get a good 75k in trades or coding.

 

[patscorpio]

my only 2 cents there are pros and cons to the IT game esp with degrees vs no degree (i myself have 2)..but thinking IT is some get rich quick type scheme will always lead to failure more often than not

 

[JT-Money]

https://levels.fyi/comp.html?from=2021_report

Google Engineer Shares How They Made Over $1 Million In Total Annual Compensation: The Advice Applies To Everyone

 

[SheWantTheD]

Man here we go again....did y'all watch the video. The breh has an aptitude for learning. He was fukkin around with code since 14 years old. 99% of y'all won't come close to his salary. I will say you don't need a degree to be a good programmer, you need patience and dedication. To go into high level stuff you need to have a background in mathematics and any logic based degree.... comp sci, statistics, etc. Set realistic goals for yourself. Most of y'all won't be starting off making 150k+. You'll start off 50k-70k until you build your skillset then hopefully in a couple of years you can move up to 100k+. I'm old enough to remember the dot com bubble software and hardware engineers got slaughtered back then. It's not all gravy and it's certainly not a get rich quick move as some here claim. I would start off taking online courses and going to a bootcamp to see if you might have some talent and if it's truly something you want to do.

yeah, you don't need a degree.

go to any university website and check out the classes students need to take to get the degree. Look up what books they are using.

In my school for math for comp sci we needed calc 1, 2 with physics and sciences, discrete structures 1 and 2, linear algebra etc just look up the books the class would use and study them.

all of it can be self taught and internet can be used for help or supplement

 

[69 others]

How is he making that much when even top engineers at silicon valley aren't earning that much

Unless he owns his own software company, there's no where any software engineer is earning that as a salary

Stocks. Tech companies pay with stock or options. Most base salaries are between 150-250k depending on level and the rest come from stocks. If you look at how most tech companies have been performing in the last few years that's nothing for them plus if you keep those stocks or sell and reinvest the appreciation adds more to your total comp.

 

[SheWantTheD]

nikkas keep saying this shyt is unrealistic but nikkas will glorify rappers and nba stars which is far more unrealistic. This breh is legit and even if you can't make it to 500k you can get a good 75k in trades or coding.

75k with a coding job is severely underpaid.

I'm about to crack open these textbooks again LMAO.

 

[Kyle C. Barker]

https://levels.fyi/comp.html?from=2021_report

Damn


As for the topic, it seems like the easiest sub discipline of programming to get into without a degree is the UI related stuff (ie strictly the phone apps and browser related code) so the competition will be crazy high on that part.

All of the stuff that makes the app actually smart will probably be relegated to computer science/engineering grads so the talent pool will be a lot smaller. Might as well get that degree to keep all of those doors open.

But then again at $500k you can retire early if you invest smart. It's like telling Kobe to get a degree

 

[69 others]

yes and no. Maybe for certain roles and maybe managerial, but school only teaches you so much. If you can pick up code yourself and right good code then you will never have a problem getting a job. Experience and ability to learn is extremely important. Still seeing new grads who are very limited.

still the best route is to go to school and get your degree.

The lead developer on my team doesn't have a degree but knows his shyt. When you go for an interview and they give you real problems to solve, it don't matter if you have a degree or not. They want someone who's gonna give the most logical and efficient answer.

Interesting argument in here. On one hand, yes anything is possible and there should be minimal gate keeping. On the other hand, breaking into the industry without the formal education + the racial discrimination is going to take an intense amount of dedication. Dedication that I haven’t seen in 90% of people.

Neither side it wrong. I work in tech (in Product) and have a “traditional” degree (computer engineering).

As someone who works in the industry. If your under 25 get a degree. If your a breh still living at home with no kids and are 25-30 I would still get a degree. There are programs where you can accelerate and finish under 2.5 years.

If your above that age go the boot camp or self teach but self teaching is extremely difficult if your not used to it. Boot camps are better they force you to focus. After your 6 months to a year build projects. Network and shoot your shot

yeah, you don't need a degree.

go to any university website and check out the classes students need to take to get the degree. Look up what books they are using.

In my school for math for comp sci we needed calc 1, 2 with physics and sciences, discrete structures 1 and 2, linear algebra etc just look up the books the class would use and study them.

all of it can be self taught and internet can be used for help or supplement

To me the degree is a plan B. If you already have one and want to break into tech, BootCamp or self-learning is fine. If you don't have one then get one cause there is no guarantee that a person will like being a software engineer or be successful at it (just like with any other career). So far software engineering seems like the only white collar career where a degree is becoming less important (and this might not even be at the majority of firms).

I've had people on my team that were doing well and wanted to do something else and people who had to be let go cause they were just not performing. I would hate for some young person to not go to college go BootCamp and self learn and then want to switch careers later only to get stuck cause of lack of degree.

 

[CrimsonTider]

I wish we bragged less as a ppl


If I made 500k absolutely no one would know about it but me



Not even my mama

STFU

 

[SheWantTheD]

To me the degree is a plan B. If you already have one and want to break into tech, BootCamp or self-learning is fine. If you don't have one then get one cause there is no guarantee that a person will like being a software engineer or be successful at it (just like with any other career). So far software engineering seems like the only white collar career where a degree is becoming less important (and this might not even be at the majority of firms).

I've had people on my team that were doing well and wanted to do something else and people who had to be let go cause they were just not performing. I would hate for some young person to not go to college go BootCamp and self learn and then want to switch careers later only to get stuck cause of lack of degree.

Honestly, self-learn is better to see if you actually like it.

People can get a comp sci degree and hate it.

I think the people that really flourish are the ones that code and all that jazz as a hobby. They have an actual passion for it.

but then again, people might be better suited to learn in a college environment rather than self learn.

 

[SheWantTheD]

I wish we bragged less as a ppl


If I made 500k absolutely no one would know about it but me



Not even my mama

You think breh is simply bragging?

People put this out there because they are either selling a program or it's part of their YouTube channel/content and niche.

 

[JLova]

To me the degree is a plan B. If you already have one and want to break into tech, BootCamp or self-learning is fine. If you don't have one then get one cause there is no guarantee that a person will like being a software engineer or be successful at it (just like with any other career). So far software engineering seems like the only white collar career where a degree is becoming less important (and this might not even be at the majority of firms).

I've had people on my team that were doing well and wanted to do something else and people who had to be let go cause they were just not performing. I would hate for some young person to not go to college go BootCamp and self learn and then want to switch careers later only to get stuck cause of lack of degree.

id say if you can figure out coding without any formal education you’re ahead of the curve. It’s just that some companies won’t hire anyone without a degree even low level jobs. Plenty that will hire without a degree but if you are up against the comp sci graduate you’re not going to get the job.