BREAKING: Russia will face “catastrophic consequences” if it deploys nuclear weapons in Ukraine, the US has warned Kremlin officials

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Emperor has no clothes talk.

United States has been two/three generations behind Russia in weapons tech for nearly 30 years. Only thing that has kept us at an edge was our navy and air force but that's pretty much gone at this point..the ridiculous thing is the Pentagon is fully aware of the shyt Russia has and yet here we are. Folks better realize that Russia would strike the United States and the UK first and also realize that your Government officials will promptly disappear into their bunkers while we're all left to deal with an exchange in hellfire.

So why are they getting their ass kicked in Ukraine by US weapons.
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I'm interested in hearing specifically what these catastrophic consequences would be:patrice:
 
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Africa and South America will survive tho :hubie:


If nukes go off we don't know who will survive. I said it before, but America doesn't have to get touched. Radioactive fallout travels thousands of miles damage all sorts of ecosystems, farmland, and water ways. And we not even talking about Nuclear winter or global warming
 

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I wonder how many people (including myself) will try to make the last post on the Thecoli before the mushroom cloud goes up into the sky.

The Coli servers would look like this:

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All the shytposting, gifs, PAWG appreciation threads, and somehow a Kevin Samuels thread would be more catastrophic than the friggin nukes :damn:
 

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"2-3 generations ahead of the US in military tech..."

How much vodka you drank today Sergei? 100 proof Nikolai?

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Well I don't usually get involved in these convos and though I think the Russians bit off a bit more than they could chew in Ukraine, @The M.I.C. comments have some context.

Russia's technology in anti-air defense (the S-300 and S-400), anti-ship and anti-sub hypersonic weapons, ballistic missiles, and some other advanced shyt is basically top of the line tech. It has long been knowledge that S-300 and S-400 are the premier AA weaponry and their hypersonic torpedo tech is just better. I trust the ballistic missiles fire right since they basically owned the space launch market until we got Elon and SpaceX up and running. Their cyber capabilities, which scare me the most, are something we don't want to see deployed in earnest.

Here's the problem: Russia (and also China) have developed tech to fight a war against us. Basically to beat Americans you have to deny us air superiority and naval superiority. They could send thousands and seamen and pilots home in caskets if they were in that kind of a fight...but they aren't. Fighting Ukrainians on their own soil requires a trained and motivated infrantry, good tanks, APCs, etc. and other things they haven't invested in as highly since a large land war didn't seem the most likely outcome. Javelins etc. were made to pop those things and the Ukrainians have used them well. I have a feeling Putin's mistakes probably came from overruling his generals in how to conduct this war but that is another story.

Part of the reason Ukraine gave the Russian Air Force that work and they can't freely bomb the country into submission is Ukraine has S-300s. That Stinger missile stuff can't do the job like those can.

This is basically a Russia-US-NATO proxy war though people don't like to admit that. We give the Ukrainians weapons, satellite imagery, we have AWACS planes in the Black Sea and E. Europe so they know about any Russian air support the minute it takes off, we have advisers on the ground etc. In this kind of situation, the offensive party doesn't do well. Look what happened to us in Vietnam when they had Soviet/Chinese support or when the Angolans/Cubans mopped up the South Africans in the late 1980s. Poor countries with Superpower backing defending their homeland rarely lose in the last 75 years. Their countries can be devastated in the process though. Our success in Iraq came because the Soviets were out of the picture and the Chinese were like IDGAF. On the other hand, Russia and China would likely be in the mix if we attacked Iran so we would see a similar disaster.

The US has been energy independent for like 20 years, my guy...

Gas prices are currently low not due to shale oil but because we are tapping the strategic oil reserves. We've taken out almost 200 million barrels this year or nearly 1/3; it is at its lowest level since 1984. If all was gravy we shouldn't have to do this. If we were doing this just to get cheaper oil (avg price of reserves is about $30/barrel) we should be replacing it with oil just in case but there has been ZERO input into the reserve this year.

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Emperor has no clothes talk.

United States has been two/three generations behind Russia in weapons tech for nearly 30 years. Only thing that has kept us at an edge was our navy and air force but that's pretty much gone at this point..the ridiculous thing is the Pentagon is fully aware of the shyt Russia has and yet here we are. Folks better realize that Russia would strike the United States and the UK first and also realize that your Government officials will promptly disappear into their bunkers while we're all left to deal with an exchange in hellfire.
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Well I don't usually get involved in these convos and though I think the Russians bit off a bit more than they could chew in Ukraine, @The M.I.C. comments have some context.

Russia's technology in anti-air defense (the S-300 and S-400), anti-ship and anti-sub hypersonic weapons, ballistic missiles, and some other advanced shyt is basically top of the line tech. It has long been knowledge that S-300 and S-400 are the premier AA weaponry and their hypersonic torpedo tech is just better. I trust the ballistic missiles fire right since they basically owned the space launch market until we got Elon and SpaceX up and running. Their cyber capabilities, which scare me the most, are something we don't want to see deployed in earnest.

Here's the problem: Russia (and also China) have developed tech to fight a war against us. Basically to beat Americans you have to deny us air superiority and naval superiority. They could send thousands and seamen and pilots home in caskets if they were in that kind of a fight...but they aren't. Fighting Ukrainians on their own soil requires a trained and motivated infrantry, good tanks, APCs, etc. and other things they haven't invested in as highly since a large land war didn't seem the most likely outcome. Javelins etc. were made to pop those things and the Ukrainians have used them well. I have a feeling Putin's mistakes probably came from overruling his generals in how to conduct this war but that is another story.

Part of the reason Ukraine gave the Russian Air Force that work and they can't freely bomb the country into submission is Ukraine has S-300s. That Stinger missile stuff can't do the job like those can.

This is basically a Russia-US-NATO proxy war though people don't like to admit that. We give the Ukrainians weapons, satellite imagery, we have AWACS planes in the Black Sea and E. Europe so they know about any Russian air support the minute it takes off, we have advisers on the ground etc. In this kind of situation, the offensive party doesn't do well. Look what happened to us in Vietnam when they had Soviet/Chinese support or when the Angolans/Cubans mopped up the South Africans in the late 1980s. Poor countries with Superpower backing defending their homeland rarely lose in the last 75 years. Their countries can be devastated in the process though. Our success in Iraq came because the Soviets were out of the picture and the Chinese were like IDGAF. On the other hand, Russia and China would likely be in the mix if we attacked Iran so we would see a similar disaster.



Gas prices are currently low not due to shale oil but because we are tapping the strategic oil reserves. We've taken out almost 200 million barrels this year or nearly 1/3; it is at its lowest level since 1984. If all was gravy we shouldn't have to do this. If we were doing this just to get cheaper oil (avg price of reserves is about $30/barrel) we should be replacing it with oil just in case but there has been ZERO input into the reserve this year.

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Subbed, great and informative post @DrBanneker
 
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