BREAKING: FBI has arrested several NCAA asst. Basketball coaches in corruption scheme

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It's crazy this is happening now. Probably a couple months a guy I was talking high school / AAU basketball with told me several guys got paid when Andrew Wiggins went to Kansas and AAU and prep teams getting paid is a regular thing. You always assume it is, but to hear someone else actually in the know tell you and then to put pieces together yourself afterwards in detail is an eye opener. And now the feds are in cracking down on the guys at the top of it.
this is what also happened in the Rudy Gay recruitment **Allegedly**

Gay's AAU team got paid by Jim Calhoun and UConn and were allowed to scrimmage UConn. And some how this was legal.

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^^^^^^yuh cal might come out unscathed but unscathed don't equal up to clean*

Nothing but Facts. I could name players right now who Cal, sorry Wes "helped" out at UK, but :sas2:. You want to bet a neg train on Cal being clean? Pay attention to Coach K. Marcus Bagley recruitment to Duke was suspect and everybody called it out. He was USC bound, I know that for a fact. Tony Bland is one of the assistants who is being thrown under the bus, great guy too but even Bagley to USC, he definitely was offered bread. Cam Reddish meets with Rich Paul and Klutch Sports, "friends" with Coach K, and week later is Duke Bound. Bagley and Trevon Duval is linked to them too. You know why I'm bringing up K, the "cleanest" coach ever? Cal is the reason K said enough is enough, and using Cal's approach to recruiting. Nobody is clean, especially fukking bluebloods.

coach Ollie is clean :blessed:

Of course he's clean, he can't land nobody important. With UConn, NCAA dying for them to fukk up. 4 Chips in, and they still don't have the respect, money and power of the bluebloods. The one program I know that's as powerful is UNLV. UNLV is beyond shady and their boosters play zero games.

It's crazy this is happening now. Probably a couple months a guy I was talking high school / AAU basketball with told me several guys got paid when Andrew Wiggins went to Kansas and AAU and prep teams getting paid is a regular thing. You always assume it is, but to hear someone else actually in the know tell you and then to put pieces together yourself afterwards in detail is an eye opener. And now the feds are in cracking down on the guys at the top of it.

Wiggins was down to UK and Florida State, with final talks strongly moving towards UK. Time of announcement, he picks Kansas. Come on son. I'm not surprised about Zion at all, but Kansas is a blueblood. UNC, Kansas, UK, UCLA, Duke have the power and the prestige. Indiana is a blueblood too, but I think the NCAA would have zero qualms fukking their shyt up.
 
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It makes them visable. Which in turn allow their fans to translate to fans of the team that drafts him. Which in turn translate into revenue. Its not about learning the system or any other nostalgic musings we have about the game. Its business. If it was about development, the G League would be popping. March Madness is part of the fabric of our society. Over 70 million brackets are filled out every March and close to $10B is wagered. Nobody is wiping that out for the sake of grooming players to run a back pick properly in a farm system.

THIS. The NBA isn't going to throw college ball in the bushes, it's a free farm system whose fan base can become your fan base when you draft their players and helps generate additional interest in basketball in general. Why would the NBA throw money at trying to create a legit development league when people don't even come out for summer league?


If the NBA set up academies, like with soccer around the world, they won't have to pay them a lot to attend. Prolly just a small stipend.

You would have to eliminate the draft if want this type of system. And they (teams) would eventually have to pay a lot of money for players to attend since everyone wants elite talent.
 

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You would have to eliminate the draft if want this type of system. And they (teams) would eventually have to pay a lot of money for players to attend since everyone wants elite talent.
a)you can have a draft for players that want to attend college and look like they have pro potential... but honestly, if the draft dies then I dont really care. That is actually an illegal form of labor movement itself.

b)no you don't. If you start bringing in kids at 9,10 years old and have them in your system at those ages, then the money is gonna be really small and really only for coaching and development. These kids will have to try-out to get in the academy.
 

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this is what also happened in the Rudy Gay recruitment **Allegedly**

Gay's AAU team got paid by Jim Calhoun and UConn and were allowed to scrimmage UConn. And some how this was legal.

End of exhibitions?

Yo don't slander my GOAT dog. nikkas never letting this Gay talk go lol. You know what's messed up, when Calhoun got in trouble with the NCAA, do you remember the reason? He excessively called a recruit. The man is dirty because he called a recruit too many times. One season later, ONE, coaches could contact a recruit as much as they want. One season later. You really think the NCAA didn't investigate Gay and Calhoun? Gary Williams reported Calhoun. If Coach Chillous, the dude who discovered Markelle Fultz, had a major position with Nike EYBL, and was "allegedly" Romar's bagman, if his name is brought up in any way, the NCAA would destroy UConn. Don't forget Shabazz Napier calling them out live after winning the chip, and they tried to cut his mic off.
 

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Nothing but Facts. I could name players right now who Cal, sorry Wes "helped" out at UK, but :sas2:. You want to bet a neg train on Cal not being clean? Pay attention to Coach K. Marcus Bagley recruitment to Duke was suspect and everybody called it out. He was USC bound, I know that for a fact. Tony Bland is one of the assistants who is being thrown under the bus, great guy too but even Bagley to USC, he definitely was offered bread. Cam Reddish meets with Rich Paul and Klutch Sports, "friends" with Coach K, and week later is Duke Bound. Bagley and Trevon Duval is linked to them too. You know why I'm bringing up K, the "cleanest" coach ever?Cal is the reason K said enough is enough, and using Cal's approach to recruiting. Nobody is clean, especially fukking bluebloods.



Of course he's clean, he can't land nobody important. With UConn, NCAA dying for them to fukk up. 4 Chips in, and they still don't have the respect, money and power of the bluebloods. The one program I know that's as powerful is UNLV. UNLV is beyond shady and their boosters play zero games.



Wiggins was down to UK and Florida State, with final talks strongly moving towards UK. Time of announcement, he picks Kansas. Come on son. I'm not surprised about Zion at all, but Kansas is a blueblood. UNC, Kansas, UK, UCLA, Duke have the power and the prestige. Indiana is a blueblood too, but I think the NCAA would have zero qualms fukking their shyt up.

The talks weren't around UK & FSU breh at the end. UK had faded..It was known he had some issues with the Harrison twins.
 

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a)you can have a draft for players that want to attend college and look like they have pro potential... but honestly, if the draft dies then I dont really care. That is actually an illegal form of labor movement itself.

b)no you don't. If you start bringing in kids at 9,10 years old and have them in your system at those ages, then the money is gonna be really small and really only for coaching and development.

You would have to eliminate the draft if you want a soccer/football style system, it requires too much investment on the part of individual teams for development. If teams have to develop academies from that young a age, there's no way any kids might take a chance on college ball and the teams won't allow it. It would def kill the college game completely and you are basically having the NBA Teams fund/run a AAU style system for 9-18 yr olds. Why would the NBA (directly) take that on financially?
 

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The talks weren't around UK & FSU breh at the end. UK had faded..It was known he had some issues with the Harrison twins.

Yeah I remember the sucker shyt the twins did, they didn't expect for that video to leak. Wiggins UK talk didn't fade though behind the scenes. The powers that be was pushing him to Cal heavy, while Kansas was working in the shadows. If you use 247 CB, Kansas was 5%. Me personally, I had Florida State and was laughed at. "Cal is not letting that boy go dawg." You remember the outside reaction when he picked KU, with Self saying he had zero idea he was going to pick them? Till this day, Self was accused of paying him, nothing proven.
 

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The talks weren't around UK & FSU breh at the end. UK had faded..It was known he had some issues with the Harrison twins.
The twins didn't release that video until it was obvious Wiggins was going to Kansas. Unless there was previous beef but I'm pretty sure they tried to get Wiggins to come here pretty hard.
 

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Yeah I remember the sucker shyt the twins did, they didn't expect for that video to leak. Wiggins UK talk didn't fade though behind the scenes. The powers that be was pushing him to Cal heavy, while Kansas was working in the shadows. If you use 247 CB, Kansas was 5%. Me personally, I had Florida State and was laughed at. "Cal is not letting that boy go dawg." You remember the outside reaction when he picked KU, with Self saying he had zero idea he was going to pick them? Till this day, Self was accused of paying him, nothing proven.

I get why the narrative exists. But dude was the son of pro athletes. He's not one I would expect to have his hand out.
 

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Nothing but Facts. I could name players right now who Cal, sorry Wes "helped" out at UK, but :sas2:. You want to bet a neg train on Cal being clean? Pay attention to Coach K. Marcus Bagley recruitment to Duke was suspect and everybody called it out. He was USC bound, I know that for a fact. Tony Bland is one of the assistants who is being thrown under the bus, great guy too but even Bagley to USC, he definitely was offered bread. Cam Reddish meets with Rich Paul and Klutch Sports, "friends" with Coach K, and week later is Duke Bound. Bagley and Trevon Duval is linked to them too. You know why I'm bringing up K, the "cleanest" coach ever? Cal is the reason K said enough is enough, and using Cal's approach to recruiting. Nobody is clean, especially fukking bluebloods.



Of course he's clean, he can't land nobody important. With UConn, NCAA dying for them to fukk up. 4 Chips in, and they still don't have the respect, money and power of the bluebloods. The one program I know that's as powerful is UNLV. UNLV is beyond shady and their boosters play zero games.



Wiggins was down to UK and Florida State, with final talks strongly moving towards UK. Time of announcement, he picks Kansas. Come on son. I'm not surprised about Zion at all, but Kansas is a blueblood. UNC, Kansas, UK, UCLA, Duke have the power and the prestige. Indiana is a blueblood too, but I think the NCAA would have zero qualms fukking their shyt up.
If you look at the number of 5 stars coach k got 2013 and before compared to the amount he got after 2013 the change was drastic. He went from getting 1 5* to like 6 5*s each class
 

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I get why the narrative exists. But dude was the son of pro athletes. He's not one I would expect to have his hand out.
And for the record I still don't think wiggy took any benefits, it could entirely be the fact his brother was close and Kansas is a good program
 

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kids should be able to eat off their star status
especially since a lot of them will never be bigger than they are in the preps
for example the crime stopper(aquille carr) should have gotten a meal from ua

a real meal not just free kicks and gear
motherfukkers get you millions on millions of eyes on your product due to mixtapes and social media
some of them are more valuable to marketing than some pro players

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You would have to eliminate the draft if you want a soccer/football style system, it requires too much investment on the part of individual teams for development. If teams have to develop academies from that young a age, there's no way any kids might take a chance on college ball and the teams won't allow it. It would def kill the college game completely and you are basically having the NBA Teams fund/run a AAU style system for 9-18 yr olds. Why would the NBA (directly) take that on financially?
people watch college sports for coaches and the schools. Not hte players.


And this is not an AAU. This is not travel sports. This is NBA teams running something akin to a boarding school.
 
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