Breaking Down Undefeated Fighters Records

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He was only elite at 144lbs on the first monday in august of 2007 while getting p*ssy the night before and driving in A BMW 740 THAT'S when he was elite

Floyd STILL aint beat a prime elite fighter...no matter what either of you say, being that you're failing to name anyone who was a GREAT fighter when Floyd fought them:sas1:


Thanks for playing though brehs:sas2:
 

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So lets name all the elite fighters from 135-154 since 1996 then?

Im at my kids football practice, but off the top of my head:

Tito, DLH, Floyd, Mosley, Cotto, Manny, Kostya Tszyu, Forrest, JMM (I was hating earlier, he was elite but Floyd didn't fight the prime version of him).

Im probably missing someone, but like I said im not home and at the football field. There were plenty good fighters, but GREAT? That's reserved for the A fighters.
 

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Im not hating on Floyd himself though breh, I'm ALWAYS saying that the best "names" Floyd fought were all outta their primes.

Only good ones he fought, while they were still at their bests was Corrales, Hatton, and Canelo. None of them were A fighters though
 

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off that list floyd beat 4 of those guys granted they weren't in their primes. Basically besides manny who could have floyd fought that would even be considered elite?
 

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off that list floyd beat 4 of those guys granted they weren't in their primes. Basically besides manny who could have floyd fought that would even be considered elite?


He missed em all while they were in their primes....that's the same thing that's gonna happen with him and Manny if he keeps waiting.


We all know prime has nothing to do with age, its about the mileage and abuse your body takes. Cotto was not prime after the beatings he took from Pacquiao and Margs. Vargas was outta his prime at a young age. Etc.

Floyd is one of the greatest ever, but his resume is a little inflated to me
 

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Okay, let me rephrase. Who's been on that level for the past 5 years at WW? 2 guys Tim Bradley and Manny. You know floyd wanted to fight manny. I wouldn't be shocked if floyd fough desert storm before he retired.
 

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Im not hating on Floyd himself though breh, I'm ALWAYS saying that the best "names" Floyd fought were all outta their primes.

Only good ones he fought, while they were still at their bests was Corrales, Hatton, and Canelo. None of them were A fighters though

Hatton was definitely elite breh. Just at 140 and not at 147 where Floyd fought him. Corrales actually had better wins after he beat Floyd so I wouldn't say he was at his best, but he was definitely in his prime when he faced Money. I'd say he was a notch below Elite though. He doesn't have that Tszyu type victory that Ricky had before he fought Floyd. Canelo is still a question mark. He can very well lose to Lara and fall into Boliva afterwards for all we know and it's not like he ain't struggle with Trout and barely win that one.

Other than that I pretty much agree with everything you've been saying in this thread. Article seemed kinda mean spirited though. Ottke really was the only one who deserved the most Ether, but instead everybody got it.

Cotto was prime at 147 though and got his best wins there. 140 Cotto was going life and death with a never was Torres and a has been Chop Chop. Career wise as far as prime and the pinnacle of their skills are concerned I'd say Cotto was elite going into his fights with Shane and Margarito. After that he slipped a lil but was still close to his prime against Manny. After that fight though he was officially past it. Floyd got a Cotto that was prolly at 85% or 90%. Marquez was elite as well, but was older and not accustomed to the weight when he fought Floyd and he was looked at as a tune up. nikkas can't rewrite history and now make JMM some elite bad ass going into that fight. True elite fighters aren't supposed to be massive underdogs whenever they face Floyd or any top elite opponent. In the end I think that was the main point of the article.

A lot of these undefeated elite fighters are facing solid B level guys are real good B+ guys, but not another true A level or A+ opponent.
 
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