Breaking Down Undefeated Fighters Records

[krackdagawd]

Who calls AB a 4x Champion?


Secondly, I agree with Litigated cord being a little inflated, but that doesn't change the fact that Floyd's skills were godly and he's one of the greatest fighters Ive ever seen

His record is inflated because he never fought an elite fighter in their prime

Or are you on that Skip b shyt saying Marquez isn't elite

 

[Newzz]

Or are you on that Skip b shyt saying Marquez isn't elite

Marquez was 36 years old breh and NOT in his prime


Marquez is not elite currently nor was he an elite fighter at that time that Floyd fought him.

 

[krackdagawd]

Marquez was 36 years old breh and NOT in his prime


Marquez is not elite currently nor was he an elite fighter at that time that Floyd fought him.

Marquez may not be elite now but he showed ZERO signs he was passed it when he fought Floyd.

Floyd beats him the same had he been 30.

 

[Newzz]

Marquez may not be elite now but he showed ZERO signs he was passed it when he fought Floyd.

Floyd beats him the same had he been 30.

Of course Floyd beats him....we think. Problem is, Floyd is the ONLY GOAT Boxer contender I can think of right now to never face an elite fighter in their primes. Cotto/Mosley/DLH/JMM were all out of their primes when Floyd fought them.

 

[krackdagawd]

Of course Floyd beats him....we think. Problem is, Floyd is the ONLY GOAT Boxer contender I can think of right now to never face an elite fighter in their primes. Cotto/Mosley/DLH/JMM were all out of their primes when Floyd fought them.

I don't think Cotto is an elite fighter but now he wasn't in his prime when Floyd fought him either?

Does Floyd have to fight these nikkas as teenagers

Just because you take an L in your career doesn't automatically mean you are passed your prime breh.

Mosley/DLH were clearly passed their prime that's about it.

 

[Master Teacher]

Marquez was 36 years old breh and NOT in his prime


Marquez is not elite currently nor was he an elite fighter at that time that Floyd fought him.

you would have a point if Mayweather was 25-27, he was 32

also there's no point in time in history marquez would ever beat mayweather

people kill me with these imaginary guidelines when it comes to prime

ortiz was 10 years younger than mayweather
cotto 3 years younger
guererro 6 years younger
Canelo 13 years younger
maidana 6 years younger

these imaginary standards and revisionist history, are just excuses its always excuses

I ain't even mad at calzaghe for retiring with the 0, he's main problem was he never fought in America in his prime

 

[Master Teacher]

Of course Floyd beats him....we think. Problem is, Floyd is the ONLY GOAT Boxer contender I can think of right now to never face an elite fighter in their primes. Cotto/Mosley/DLH/JMM were all out of their primes when Floyd fought them.

BUT THEY WERE ALL CHAMPS THO

De La Hoya is the only who was flabby, but Floyd came up in weight to fight him

matter fact De La Hoya wasn't flabby

He had lost to Shane and fukking Hopkins, two guys who are just better than him

the same pas his prime JMM KO'd Pac

Cotto is still active, he's actually the same age Mayweather was when he fought Shane


I would see if mayweather was Canelo's age and fought them guys, and won, you can argue that, but he's no spring chicken himself the nikka was born in the 70s

The fact is in boxing history the younger guys always take down the aging champ, that's the nature of the sport

the fact that mayweather fighting guys who could be is son, is only going to cement his status

 

[Newzz]

I don't think Cotto is an elite fighter but now he wasn't in his prime when Floyd fought him either?

Does Floyd have to fight these nikkas as teenagers

Just because you take an L in your career doesn't automatically mean you are passed your prime breh.

Mosley/DLH were clearly passed their prime that's about it.

Floyd did not fight prime Miguel Cotto.

The NBA Draft is on so I don't have time to into further detail, but prime elite fighters dont struggle with Old Mosley, Clottey (a fight Cotto lost forreal) and get destroyed the way he did by Pacquiao.

After losing to Floyd he was beat even easier by Austin Trout of all people. He was not prime.

Prime elite Cotto was at 140

 

[krackdagawd]

Floyd did not fight prime Miguel Cotto.

The NBA Draft is on so I don't have time to into further detail, but prime elite fighters dont struggle with Old Mosley, Clottey (a fight Cotto lost forreal) and get destroyed the way he did by Pacquiao.

After losing to Floyd he was beat even easier by Austin Trout of all people. He was not prime.

Prime elite Cotto was at 140

So what your real argument here is that Cotto isn't elite(which I agree with).

Not that he wasn't in his prime when Floyd fought him.

 

[Newzz]

So what your real argument here is that Cotto isn't elite(which I agree with).

Not that he wasn't in his prime when Floyd fought him.

Breh....I specifically said Floyd has never fought a Prime elite fighter.

Youre breaking it down into two different categories, but its only 1. There has never been an elite fighter that was still in his prime when Floyd fought him. They were all out of their primes

 

[krackdagawd]

Breh....I specifically said Floyd has never fought a Prime elite fighter.

Youre breaking it down into two different categories, but its only 1. There has never been an elite fighter that was still in his prime when Floyd fought him. They were all out of their primes

You brought up Cotto as an elite fighter but only when he fought at 140

All of his best wins are at 147 so why shouldn't he be in his prime there? Because he took a few loses? You were just in that boxing thread saying that you don't care if a fighter takes L's as long as he is fighting the best.

If you say Cotto isn't elite fine, then you have a point but you are clearly stating he is except it's at a weight he didn't even get his best wins in.

You're better than this Newzz

 

[Newzz]

You brought up Cotto as an elite fighter but only when he fought at 140

All of his best wins are at 147 so why shouldn't he be in his prime there? Because he took a few loses? You were just in that boxing thread saying that you don't care if a fighter takes L's as long as he is fighting the best.

If you say Cotto isn't elite fine, then you have a point but you are clearly stating he is except it's at a weight he didn't even get his best wins in.

You're better than this Newzz

Miguel Cotto was at his best at 140. Why are you even arguing that fact? He was an elite fighter at 140. Same as Paul Williams being an elite fighter at 147.....even though his best wins were not at that weight. They were at 154-160. Hell, same as Floyd Mayweather. His best victories are at 147-154, but he was a better fighter at 130 and 135.



Miguel Cotto was not elite period at 147 (he was good not elite) and he definitely wasnt in his prime when Floyd fought him.


Yes, I said what I said in the boxing thread in regards to me liking fighters. Thst doesn't mean you dont get penalized for losing


I said I like Emmanuel Augustus......he was a loser, but I liked watching him fight. He wasn't elite and nobody would say he is.

 

[RedBull]

@krackdagawd and @Master Teacher dropping valid knowledge on Floyd without being extra

@Newzz You changing breh

 

[krackdagawd]

Miguel Cotto was at his best at 140. Why are you even arguing that fact? He was an elite fighter at 140. Same as Paul Williams being an elite fighter at 147.....even though his best wins were not at that weight. They were at 154-160. Hell, same as Floyd Mayweather. His best victories are at 147-154, but he was a better fighter at 130 and 135.

So because Cotto beat up a few jobbers at 140 that makes him elite at that weight?

So by your logic Cotto was best at 140 and Floyd was best at 130-135 shouldn't that even it all out then

Miguel Cotto was not elite period at 147 (he was good not elite) and he definitely wasnt in his prime when Floyd fought him.

Miguel Cotto is not elite at all not at 140 and not at 147. That sounds a lot better than saying Cotto wasn't at his prime at 32 years of age. Forget that Floyd is older than him, forget that his "best weight" was a weight higher than Floyd's best weight.

Yes, I said what I said in the boxing thread in regards to me liking fighters. Thst doesn't mean you dont get penalized for losing


I said I like Emmanuel Augustus......he was a loser, but I liked watching him fight. He wasn't elite and nobody would say he is.

Seems to me like you are penalizing Cotto as not being elite because of the losses he took at 147 forget the fact that he fought a gang of jobbers at 140 and fought the wayyyyyyyyyyyy better opposition at 147.

 

[Crakface]

Yall dont give professional fighters enough respect. There are only so many ELITE ELITE fighters. Anyone who contends for the belt is Good. Stop it. These guys arent bums.