Breaking Bad doesn't deserve to sit at the table with The Sopranos and The Wire
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Diondon
Thanks to the lawyers uh, I marbled the foyer
Horribly overrated 
It is a little below Sopranos and The Wire. There were many times where characters acted very unbelievably to further the story. A lot of things Mike did in Season 5 for example. Jesse throwing money out of the car drawing attention to him was ridiculous too. Then they had one of the safest series finales I've ever seen for a show that was supposed to be edgy and challenge the viewer in how they respond to Walt.
I don't think they quite lived up to what the premise could've been either. A square genius chemist in the meth game is an interesting premise, but the show lost believability pretty quick. Someone like that might make a lot of money selling drugs and survive, but not the way he did it. Making Macgyver chemical bombs to get out of situations, "say my name", etc. Sh1t was silly brehs.
I still like the show a lot. It's in my top 5 just off the quality of the acting, visuals, and tension of the really good episodes.
Seasons 5 and 7 are the GOAT level Shield seasons, I'd be surprised if you still think how you do now after you see 5.
I don't think they quite lived up to what the premise could've been either. A square genius chemist in the meth game is an interesting premise, but the show lost believability pretty quick. Someone like that might make a lot of money selling drugs and survive, but not the way he did it. Making Macgyver chemical bombs to get out of situations, "say my name", etc. Sh1t was silly brehs.
I still like the show a lot. It's in my top 5 just off the quality of the acting, visuals, and tension of the really good episodes.
I wish I started The Sopranos before starting this overrated ass The Shield shyt (Glenn Close has been killing it with her role though, that old bytch can act her ass off), which one of you fukk ass nikkas had told me to start watching The Shield over The Sopranos cause of the levels of fukkery???????? Whoever it was that told me that, fukk YOU BRO, I cant stop watching this bullshyt
Seasons 5 and 7 are the GOAT level Shield seasons, I'd be surprised if you still think how you do now after you see 5.
Liking the character and liking the storyline that the character is in are two entirely different things though.honestly yea
cared very much for carmella and the whole soprano family.
Your favorite character on a show could be bogged down by some bullshyt like Carmella's trip to Paris or the numbingly dull spec house bullshyt.
And i defy you to find any AJ centric storyline that was not completely a waste of time.
Big Mel
@bigboss
Deadwood anyone?
Is better than The Sopranos.
fred giving GoT props
GRR Martin wrote a blog about "Ozymandias", how could I not?
Fred.
Big Mel
@bigboss
Is better than The Sopranos.
Nah. Part of the holy trinity though. A shame HBO bailed on it.
FrederickDouglas
All Star
The only thing I agree with in your post is the fact that the finale was non lasting. It was good at first and after a few days kept people talking, but its the last thing to come up during a BB conversation. I have yet to start Sopranos, I think The Wire is GOAT along with BB, and im at the end of season 4 of The Shield (overrated as fukk, has nothing on season 1 of Gang Related but cant stop watching cause of the random ass storylines). I never have or never will watch Game Of Thrones, I could care less about some ole King Arthur and The Knights Of Justice ass setting, shyt does not interest me at all no matter how much internet nerds hype it up. But what the fukk do I know though????????
If you ain't watching Game of Thrones, you ain't watching SHYT, nikka.
Adam3000
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GRR Martin wrote a blog about "Ozymandias", how could I not?
Fred.
If there are 2 things that GRRM loves in storytelling it is:
1) Complex, grey characters
2) Struggles of the heart and human condition and the choices we must make because of them
Ozymandias had both in spades and executed them to perfection, so its clear to see why he was so enamored by it.
Game of Thrones can not put on an episode on the level of Ozymandias until the end and George knows it. They just can't, the structure does not allow it because no matter how great a particular scene is, there will always be a disjointed moment where we jump to something else less interesting. Towards the end when characters start (probably) coming together, we may finally get a taste of gawd level individual episodes.
GOT excels in either whole-season form, or individual scene form. I'm not sure there is a show in existence that has even come close to the level of GOAT-caliber moments that GOT has had and we have barely passed the halfway point. (The Wire maybe)
The closest that GOT ever came to a GOAT-caliber episode was Blackwater (S2E9). The focus and intrigue were there. But it was missing that WOW moment that took it to the next level. The only other extremely-focused episode was Watchers on the Wall (S4E9) which was mind-blowing in terms of action and direction and technical film-making, but lacked the emotional impact to vault it into the stratosphere.
I really hope that GOT has its Ozymandias-level full episode before the series ends. It may not, and I suppose it doesn't have to. Michael Jordan didn't have to have a 100 point game or get a quadruple-double to be the GOAT.
Kill Dat Noize
Banned
except it wasn't bullshyt though. the spec house subplot was about carmella learning how to be self sufficient. up until that point she'd never done or accomplished anything on her own. and the trip to paris with rosalie was great also.
the later seasons of sopranos aren't as plot driven as the first 2 seasons but they're so much more character driven, and to me that's just as good. there's nothing boring about peeling back the layers and watching what makes these characters tick because the show actually put in the time to make us care about them. some of my favorite all time episodes were those self contained character stories where the overarching plot was barely addressed.
and wow if you thought AJ's scenes were a "waste of time" i honestly don't know what to say.
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See I didn't care enough about Carmela becoming an independent woman to be drawn in by the whole spec house thing plus it wasn't actually her being self-sufficient because she ended up needing Tony's help anyway. And that Carm/Rosalie in Paris stuff was time that could have been better spent pretty much on any other character.
Also I never said anything about AJ's scenes in general...his scenes with Tony especially were very worthwhile.
But storylines where AJ was the central focus were ass.
"The Sopranos" is in my top 3 but c'mon son. There was mad scenes where the show spun it's wheels....probably more than any other show listed here. I don't hold it against the show, it was basically an experiment at the time because heavily serialized story telling was relatively new, and they had to fill in the episodes some how.
Fred.