I would say he was the biggest ever. i guess you could argue The Beatle? Elvis?
Bone Thugs E. 1999 Eternal-Top 5 Album of All Time
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Dre had a gold album with no single or video in 2015. Pac had posthumous releases up until 2006. Biggie had a posthumous compilation drop in 2005. Cube still had success in the 00's. Laugh Now, Cry Later went gold and it dropped on an indy. NWA had a whole biopic in 2015 and Dre and Cube are members.
Only real outliers are The Fugees, Cypress, Coolio and Meth. That still doesn't go against what I said. Fugees still have songs that are licensed in movies and television specifically "Killin Me Softly".
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Compton was a massive flop. The NWA biopic couldn’t save that album.
If Going gold is successful for Cube than its successful for Bone as well.
That’s a lot of outliers and nearly all of them weren’t bigger than Bone.
Bone is the lowest streaming big 90s group.
They are the outlier because their music didn’t stand the test of time.
Compton still went Gold in 2015 without any real support. Dre announced it and dropped it and that was it. This was 15 years after his last album. I can't think of anyone who took that kind of break and still sold records.
Cube went gold independently. Bone dropped on Full Surface/Interscope supported by singles that featured Akon and Mariah.
Bone isn't the lowest streaming big group of the 90's. That would be Naughty By Nature.
And again, NOTHING about streaming has anything to do with standing the test of time. If that is the case, much of the music that is heralded as classic is NOT timeless.
The whole premise of something not being timeless because it doesn't have as many streams compared to how big the artist was in the past is one of the dumbest things I've ever seen posted here. Please tell me that Busta Rhymes is more timeless than Nas because he has 10.5 million monthly listeners to Nas's 8.5 million even though Nas was outselling Busta in the 90's by 2:1 and was still outselling Busta in the '00's and even now. Do you not see how ludicrous that looks?
Dre has got nearly 21 million monthly listeners. You set the benchmark at 3.5-4 million monthly listeners. So you think 17 million of them are there because of the Compton stimulus package?
That makes sense.
So Bone got a bigger push and had more eyes on them, almost like they were featured in a popular movie, so that should have translated to more streaming in 2022 than Cube’s independent album right?
Naughty was nowhere near as big as Bone. They were definitely bigger than Mobb and more commercial, so those numbers are disappointing for them.
So whether or not people are listening to your music has nothing to do with standing the test of time? It’s completely irrelevant?
That makes sense.
Explain the second sentence.
Busta had the bigger commercial singles later than Nas. Look at Me Now went 8x platinum in the 2010s.
Plus his biggest streaming song is a p*ssycat Dolls song.
So I’m not surprised that Busta has more. I wouldnt be surprised if Nas had more either since you made a good case with album sales.
Did you read the rest of the post where O clearly talked about artists that were going strong in the '00's? Dre has one of the most streamed albums of all time. His numbers aren't surprising. He played a role in a couple of the other albums that made the list.
Those singles don't account for the 10.5 million monthly listeners. Nas has two platinum albums in the '00's. Busta had one and everything else Busta dropped in the '00's went gold even with him having big singles like the song with Mariah and "Touch It". Nas has a gold album in the '10's. Busta has none. Nas has dropped three brand new projects in the past few years and at least two of those were more successful than Busta's latest album. How do you explain Busta having 2 million more monthly listeners than Nas when Nas was consistently outselling Busta for nearly two decades and recently?
By your standard, Nas's music isn't as timeless as Busta's.
Well, what does it say about individual albums? You're telling me that Illmatic or It Takes A Nation is less essential or less timeless than 2001 because 2001 has more streams? You're telling me that Slim Shady LP is more timeless than Blueprint because it has more streams? You're telling me that The Score is more significant than Infamous simply because it has more streams?
And how is that disappointing? Who made Mobb Deep the benchmark for success?
By the time Mobb Deep came out with Infamous, Naughty and Mobb were doing around the same numbers. Naughty didn't have success beyond the 90's. Mobb did.
We don't know if Strength and Loyalty is more streamed than Cube's independent album. There's no streaming numbers for individual albums. Both albums sold around the same amount during their respective runs. That's not the same as looking at streaming numbers for "Shook Ones Pt. 2" and seeing its their most streamed song, which is no coincidence that it was also in a big movie. Go to YouTube and see comments for "Shook Ones Pt. 2" that read "8 Mile brought me here".