Boko Haram Financed By Forces Outside Nigeria- Goodluck Jonathan

[Blackking]

the us definitely supports forces to suit its own agenda, and?

im just pointing out that iran does it and iran isnt a victim its a player and that iran is supporting muslim terrorists in africa, therefore i support us making moves to contain iran

Well I'm aware that you support any move the 'west' makes....

but Iran actually fukks up many 'undesireable' groups Muslim and non Muslim.... and even thought they have talked shyt to the US and Israel... they haven't done anything wrong besides fund that 1 group to attack israel... But Israel is just as Much to blame and is just as wrong.

We have done more wrong to them than they have done to us for decades now. We have manipulated their politics in the past so much that they are still feeling the affects.

We have been responsible for thousands of deaths in South america... and no body is coming to 'contain' us.

and I lived in the Mideast for 2 years...... This Boko Haram shyt makes no sense for them.

Go back to the drawing board on these incidences in Nigeria and Mali, Friend.

 

[methodz]

the us definitely supports forces to suit its own agenda, and?

im just pointing out that iran does it and iran isnt a victim its a player and that iran is supporting muslim terrorists in africa, therefore i support us making moves to contain iran

The US is funding groups affiliated to Al Qaeda openly nowadays and which are openly sharing the wealth with them, Israel has through Mossad caused instability and killed thousands of people mostly collateral damage, should we attack them? There is proof here, the Iranian, Boko Haram accusations can be laughed at, Boko Haram is no doubt financed by Qatar, Saudi elements and prosperous hardline sunnis which often donate through charities meant to help the kids in Palestine etc..


Oh and read this

Iran Air Flight 655 was an Iran Air civilian passenger flight from Tehran to Dubai that was shot down by the United States Navy guided missile cruiser USS Vincennes on 3 July 1988. The attack took place in Iranian airspace, over Iran's territorial waters in the Persian Gulf, and on the flight's usual flight path. The aircraft, an Airbus A300 B2-203, was destroyed by SM-2MRsurface-to-air missiles fired from the Vincennes. All 290 on board, including 66 children and 16 crew, died.

Now you can see why there could be animosity which obviously started when we funded their Shah in the 70's and he was as oppressive as the worst of them. But even there they have behaved and contained themselves and didn't start bombing every tourist place in every country around them.

 

[50CentStan]

first I want to say Islam has nothing to do with Terrorism, and killing innocent people is not a part of Islam.

@RadaMillz

It is funny you Muslims have so much confidence in your fake god. When you faced the Christian cacs during the Crusade, they cleansed your hordes. If your fake god was so powerful how did the Templar Knights push the devout Arabs back to the brink?

I dont know who's a bigger idot, you or chris b, friend. The mongols tried, #fail, the Templar knights tried, #fail. you can try my bigoted, ignorant friend, but you will also #fail . You can try toburn the Holy Quran, destroy every written documentation of the word of God, but even that wont stop the message. When God is on your side you cant lose, the pendelum swings back and forth, but this fights fixed, and you're on the losing side. but dont worry, there have been people far worse than you who have come out of the dark toward the light and into submission to God.

 

[HollowPoints2]

How does that contradict anything I've said? None of that contradicts what I've posted , Why anybody think that there is only one group or one country behind it?

The link I posted said nothing about Iran funding the Sunni muslims in Nigeria however they did say funding was coming from Saudi Arabia or out of the UK.I could be wrong and you could be right however the articles I did post did in fact contradict what you've posted.

Why would Shia muslims fund or financially support Sunni muslims?

from what I know it doesn't work that way.

EDIT: Islamist want to establish a stronghold in the west African region which is why Mali and the DRC recently experienced Islamic insurrection not too long ago.

This is no coincidence somebody is funding these Muslim uprisings in predominantly west African Black countries.

soon you will see many parts of western African countries in conflict also.

This is a well-orchestrated well funded operation being conducted in the western region of Africa by deep pocket sunni Arabs from the middle east.

 

[godkiller]

Ok time to lay the Smackdown on some ignorance here.

Right now in most of the Arab world the Sunni vs Shia conflict has gone out of proportions, Read the following to see where it comes from for many of them.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/01/syria-crisis-prophecy-idINDEEA300AB20140401

Now for the rest that aren't obsessed by apocalyptic theories it's a fight to preserve power or survival between the two sects of Islam, Boko Haram and hardcore sunni extremists, a shia (Iran) is as much halal to kill for them as a Jew or a Christian. There is not an alliance as much as our government would say otherwise.

When the war on the Taliban started Iran offered the USA to help out because there had been many border incidents where Taliban extremists would kill Shias but due to Israeli pressure the US declined and proceeded later on to try to link Iran and Al Qaeda as they tried to link Saddam to 9/11, nothing more than trying to blackmail the people and get into yet another fight yet these accusations were quickly dismissed.

Fast forward to 2013 up to now and Iran is killing more Al Qaeda operatives that we are in Syria by sending elite forces to Syria to defend the big cities, again I'll be clear it's impossible for Iran to be sponsoring Boko Haram, it's almost the same as Iran funding the IDF to bomb refugee camps in Palestine.

On the other hand Iran does fund Hezbollah in Lebanon which is viewed as a terrorist organization for a bombing which they commited 20 years ago and for their dislike for Israel which caused instability in Lebanon for 20 years, although when first formed Hezbollah was created to fight the instability caused by Palestinian refugees in Lebanon, eventually the Israeli occupation of south Lebanon where most shytes come from turned them into a resistance group vs Israel which was hailed by Arab countries until now, where a sort of an apocalyptic holy war has emerged.

When it's all set and done, as a non muslim which lived in the middle east I can hope for one thing and that is a shyte victory, the difference here is that the fundamental shytes are more tolerant, accepting than the hardline sunnis which will execute whatever isn't a hardline sunni, you can be a sunni but if you miss one prayer you will be sentenced to death while being under a Shria law environment.

Back to go back into the topic, don't believe the accusations towards Iran funding Boko Haram they'Re as unrealistic as America funding Al Qaeda in Syria... oh wait that can be disputed, so I guess you never know, crazier shyt is ongoing nowadays but it's very far fetched that Iran is helping out a sunni hard line group, I think both sides would consider it as treason to their cause.

Iran has the means, will and background to fund Boko Haram. At least one Iranian has already been caught weapons smuggling in the area. This non-sequitar post does nothing to dispel notions Arabs or Iran are involved. Even if Iran itself is not to blame, Arabs are still the main culprits. That means Arabs are to blame for murder, kidnapping and torture in Africa. Any who stan for them over religious reasons are anti-black c00ns. Period.

 

[godkiller]

EDIT: Islamist want to establish a stronghold in the west African region which is why Mali and the DRC recently experienced Islamic insurrection not too long ago.

This is no coincidence somebody is funding these Muslim uprisings in predominantly west African Black countries.

soon you will see many parts of western African countries in conflict also.

This is a well-orchestrated well funded operation being conducted in the western region of Africa by deep pocket sunni Arabs from the middle east.

This is exactly what I've been saying all along in this thread. Arabs and fanatical Islam are the main drivers behind the likes of the Boko Haram. Only the Arabs have the capability and motivation to fund these operations. Historically Arabs have engaged in similar such crusades against Africans and Europeans. History, evidence and common sense implicates them. Any who support Muslim uprisings in Africa is an anti-black c00n.

 

[HollowPoints2]

Well I'm aware that you support any move the 'west' makes....

but Iran actually fukks up many 'undesireable' groups Muslim and non Muslim.... and even thought they have talked shyt to the US and Israel... they haven't done anything wrong besides fund that 1 group to attack israel... But Israel is just as Much to blame and is just as wrong.

We have done more wrong to them than they have done to us for decades now. We have manipulated their politics in the past so much that they are still feeling the affects.

We have been responsible for thousands of deaths in South america... and no body is coming to 'contain' us.

and I lived in the Mideast for 2 years...... This Boko Haram shyt makes no sense for them.

Go back to the drawing board on these incidences in Nigeria and Mali, Friend.

Indeed.

Read this quote.

"For some time now, the proponents of international Wahhabism have been working on a plan to establish a Wahhabi zone of influence that extends right across the entire Sahel region from Era, Somalia, Chad, Northern Nigeria, Niger and Mali through to Senegal. This represents a huge threat to our brand of Islam which has always lived in harmony with the local culture of a country.

Organisations financed by Arab nations such as Kuwait, Qatar and Saudi Arabia are attempting what could be described as the “Islamisation” of the Sahel region. Their goal is to bring their idea of “true Islam” to sub-Saharan Africa. This ideology is motivated by a kind of Arab paternalism that most West Africans vehemently oppose. The attempt to “Arabise” these Muslim communities is based on a total denial of the local cultures of African Muslims. The destruction of the mausoleums in Timbuktu was an extreme example of this. Poverty is certainly a factor. The African state is weak and does not operate any kind of social policy. But above all, the state has withdrawn too much from the education system, leaving the field to non-state organisations which are financed out of Kuwait, Qatar and Saudi Arabia.

http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/africaatlse/...n-countries-battle-the-rise-of-radical-islam/

 

[godkiller]

Indeed.


Read this quote.

"F or some time now, the proponents of international Wahhabism have been working on a plan to establish a Wahhabi zone of influence that extends right across the entire Sahel region from Era, Somalia, Chad, Northern Nigeria, Niger and Mali through to Senegal. This represents a huge threat to our brand of Islam which has always lived in harmony with the local culture of a country.

Organisations financed by Arab nations such as Kuwait, Qatar and Saudi Arabia are attempting what could be described as the “Islamisation” of the Sahel region. Their goal is to bring their idea of “true Islam” to sub-Saharan Africa. This ideology is motivated by a kind of Arab paternalism that most West Africans vehemently oppose. The attempt to “Arabise” these Muslim communities is based on a total denial of the local cultures of African Muslims. The destruction of the mausoleums in Timbuktu was an extreme example of this. Poverty is certainly a factor. The African state is weak and does not operate any kind of social policy. But above all, the state has withdrawn too much from the education system, leaving the field to non-state organisations which are financed out of Kuwait, Qatar and Saudi Arabia.

@King

I and others need no more justification than the above to see Iran and Muslims wiped from the face of the planet. Israel is merely the most convenient conduit. Arabs are slavers, imperialists, racists and fanatics. They are genetically more similar to cacs than any other group. You brainwashed c00ns are sycophants and slaves. And that is all which matters in the context of this discussion.

 

[theworldismine13]

The US is funding groups affiliated to Al Qaeda openly nowadays and which are openly sharing the wealth with them, Israel has through Mossad caused instability and killed thousands of people mostly collateral damage, should we attack them? There is proof here, the Iranian, Boko Haram accusations can be laughed at, Boko Haram is no doubt financed by Qatar, Saudi elements and prosperous hardline sunnis which often donate through charities meant to help the kids in Palestine etc..


Oh and read this

Iran Air Flight 655 was an Iran Air civilian passenger flight from Tehran to Dubai that was shot down by the United States Navy guided missile cruiser USS Vincennes on 3 July 1988. The attack took place in Iranian airspace, over Iran's territorial waters in the Persian Gulf, and on the flight's usual flight path. The aircraft, an Airbus A300 B2-203, was destroyed by SM-2MRsurface-to-air missiles fired from the Vincennes. All 290 on board, including 66 children and 16 crew, died.

Now you can see why there could be animosity which obviously started when we funded their Shah in the 70's and he was as oppressive as the worst of them. But even there they have behaved and contained themselves and didn't start bombing every tourist place in every country around them.

how does any of that make it ok for iran to support boko haram? i never said iran was the sole supporter of boko haram, i simply pointed out that an iranian was convicted of importing weapons and the weapons were traced to the iran revolutionary guard, and i posted the articles to prove it

my overall point is to point out that iran isnt a victim, its a player

 

[theworldismine13]

The link I posted said nothing about Iran funding the Sunni muslims in Nigeria however they did say funding was coming from Saudi Arabia or out of the UK.I could be wrong and you could be right however the articles I did post did in fact contradict what you've posted.

Why would Shia muslims fund or financially support Sunni muslims?

from what I know it doesn't work that way.

EDIT: Islamist want to establish a stronghold in the west African region which is why Mali and the DRC recently experienced Islamic insurrection not too long ago.

This is no coincidence somebody is funding these Muslim uprisings in predominantly west African Black countries.

soon you will see many parts of western African countries in conflict also.

This is a well-orchestrated well funded operation being conducted in the western region of Africa by deep pocket sunni Arabs from the middle east.

did you even read your own links, half of them mention iran

most of them are broken so im just going by what you posted

Boko Haram has long been known to be receiving funding from abroad. Founding father Mohammed Yusuf was receiving funds from Iran, Sudan and Saudi Arabia back in the 1990s, ...

Feb 21, 2013 - Home Media & Campaigns News Boko Haram: Iran Linked to Confessed Terrorist Planning Attacks on ...
Boko Haram's Funding Traced To Uk, S/arabia: - Politics - Nairaland

Sep 12, 2012 - There has been speculation in Nigeria and elsewhere about how Boko Haram funds its operations.
Boko Haram: Iran Linked to Confessed Terrorist Planning Attacks on ...

Boko Haram's Funding Traced To Uk, S/arabia: - Politics - .... I am not holding my breath either - we are the nation who allowed Iranians who smuggled enough arms to support a small ...

im not following your logic, how are you gonna post a bunch of links mentioning iran to prove that iran isnt involved? and showing other muslims are involved doesnt disprove iranian involvement

 

[methodz]

how does any of that make it ok for iran to support boko haram? i never said iran was the sole supporter of boko haram, i simply pointed out that an iranian was convicted of importing weapons and the weapons were traced to the iran revolutionary guard, and i posted the articles to prove it

my overall point is to point out that iran isnt a victim, its a player

Read my previous post, there's no chance in hell that Iran is financing Boko Haram, whatever you hear about it would be Israeli intelligence at work, they've tried to affiliate Iran to every terror group but it hasn't worked and can't link them to Al Qaida or ISIS due to the Syrian conflict, who's left? Boko Haram. There's nothing to gain, if Iran had to side with Christians or sunni fundementalists, they would pick the Christian 10/10 times, there's deep ongoing hate nowadays by the Sunnis towards the Shias and vice versa.

It's all a web of lies to prevent peace talks.

 

[methodz]

double

 

[thekingsmen]

lol, thats just pathetic, you never require proof for any of your allegations and conspiracy theories, now all of sudden you need proof? foh

The only conspiracy theory is to think Iran is involved in Nigeria. You won't read the West Point study cause it will discredit the article.

 

[thekingsmen]

I think I missed this link that you posted, can you post it again?

http://www.ctc.usma.edu/posts/boko-harams-international-connections

 

[thekingsmen]

We may not know who exactly is funding the Boko Haram, but Occam's Razor says 1) Muslims are involved and 2) Arabs are involved. Arabs have been found smuggling weapons to groups in the region. They have the means, the will and are known to fund terrorism. This presupposes they are involved, not withstanding the fact they are Muslim themselves (by and large)

My link already says who is funding them.