BLASIAN KOBE JALEN GREEN IS THE FUTURE OF BASKETBALL

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Ant is incredible, but he's not on Luka's level right now.

And what does Luka's talent level have to do with his analysis of the game and objectivity? After all, he's only 23 years old, so his opinions and views of the game will naturally change as time goes on.

Is MJ's opinion on the game more correct than every single human in history?

Regardless, Jalen and Sengun are both great young players getting praise from their peers.

The majority of young players get praised, so this isn't really saying anything. No player comes out and starts hating on young cats. The NBA is fraternity, so nobody is going to alienate themselves by speaking what's really on their mind.

And, like it or not, their peers know more than any of us because they actually play against them.

They hoop for living, they don't analyze hoops for living. There's a difference.

Do you think every player in the league holds the same opinion about everything? Of course not. This is one of the many reasons why you can't use player opinions in this manner because there'll always be someone that has a different opinion, hence why I said Ant believes Sengun is the superstar of the squad. Every player has their own perspective and biases that is their own, just like posters on this board do. Just like every human does.

 

[Barney Rubble]

And what does Luka's talent level have to do with his analysis of the game and objectivity? After all, he's only 23 years old, so his opinions and views of the game will naturally change as time goes on.

Is MJ's opinion on the game more correct than every single human in history?

The majority of young players get praised, so this isn't really saying anything. No player comes out and starts hating on young cats. The NBA is fraternity, so nobody is going to alienate themselves by speaking what's really on their mind.

They hoop for living, they don't analyze hoops for living. There's a difference.

Do you think every player in the league holds the same opinion about everything? Of course not. This is one of the many reasons why you can't use player opinions in this manner because there'll always be someone that has a different opinion, hence why I said Ant believes Sengun is the superstar of the squad. Every player has their own perspective and biases that is their own, just like posters on this board do. Just like every human does.

My point is, I'm taking an MVP candidate's opinion over yours. These are co-workers that know the ins and outs of the league. They know things we'll never know, and see the game completely different than an analyst because they're actually out there. If you really think you know more about the game than an actual NBA player, then cool, but I completely disagree that you do.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

My point is, I'm taking an MVP candidate's opinion over yours. These are co-workers that know the ins and outs of the league. They know things we'll never know, and see the game completely different than an analyst because they're actually out there. If you really think you know more about the game than an actual NBA player, then cool, but I completely disagree that you do.

What would you say if Tatum came out tomorrow and said he doesn't think Jalen is that good? And then Steph agreed with him.

 

[Barney Rubble]

What would you say if Tatum came out tomorrow and said he doesn't think Jalen is that good? And then Steph agreed with him.

That's a hypothetical, Luka's isn't. And, I would still respect their opinions more than yours.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

That's a hypothetical, Luka's isn't. And, I would still respect their opinions more than yours.

But their opinion would be the same as mine.



I'm merely trying to illustrate to you that players have different opinions, so just to cherry-pick a player's opinion and deem that worthy of being the correct one and not acknowledge that another player could have the complete opposite opinion is nonsensical. How do you know that Luka is even being truthful? How do you know he's not letting his own bias get in the way? How do you know he won't feel differently a month from now?

 

[Barney Rubble]

But their opinion would be the same as mine.



I'm merely trying to illustrate to you that players have different opinions, so just to cherry-pick a player's opinion and deem that worthy of being the correct one and not acknowledge that another player could have the complete opposite opinion is nonsensical. How do you know that Luka is even being truthful? How do you know he's not letting his own bias get in the way? How do you know he won't feel differently a month from now?

I cherry-picked, arguably, the best player in the league's opinion, not some scrub. There's a difference. His opinion has much more weight than yours, despite what you think of yourself. I also made my own opinion based on the plethora of games I've watched Jalen play this season and last. I see true potential for greatness, and you're constantly in here bringing down morale. It's fun to you, I get it, but it's pathetic to me.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

I cherry-picked, arguably, the best player in the league's opinion, not some scrub. There's a difference.

Again, Luka's talent doesn't mean he's more informed and/or more objective than every other player in the league. He's only 23, so his brain hasn't stop developing and doesn't have more knowledge/experience of the game than every player who're a lot older than he is. You have absolutely no grasp of his ability to be objective because you don't know him personally, you only know how he plays the game.

What if Luka had the exact same skillset, but was only 6ft - would he still be the best player in the league? If not, are you telling me you're only valuing his opinion that highly because of how big he is?

His opinion has much more weight than yours, despite what you think of yourself.

You might as well throw all your opinions about the game in the bushes and let Luka dictate them to you if that's how you feel.

I also made my own opinion based on the plethora of games I've watched Jalen play this season and last. I see true potential for greatness,

You mean you cherry-picked a player's opinion that ran parallel to yours?

 

[Barney Rubble]

Again, Luka's talent doesn't mean he's more informed and/or more objective than every other player in the league. He's only 23, so his brain hasn't stop developing and doesn't have more knowledge of the game than every player who're a lot older than he is. You have absolutely no grasp of his ability to be objective because you don't know him personally, you only know how he plays the game.

You might as well throw all your opinions about the game in the bushes and let Luka dictate them to you if that's how you feel.

You mean you cherry-picked a player's opinion that ran parallel to yours?

My opinion was made before Luka said anything, and this thread displays that. You're just grasping now, again, it's pathetic. Your opinion is as valuable as NBA superstars? How pompous are you?

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

My opinion was made before Luka said anything, and this thread displays that.

You're proving my point.

You wouldn't change your mind if Luka said any different. You're only using his opinion because it reinforces yours, and you're trying to justify it with this dumb shyt of him being this omniscient, completely non-partisan being when it comes to judging hoops.

You're just grasping now, again, it's pathetic. Your opinion is as valuable as NBA superstars? How pompous are you?

My opinion is only as valuable as the reasoning and results. As is the same for everyone.

Let me give you a relevant example about a young cat - many players (even superstars) came out and said Wiseman was the next great big man and best talent of his class, and I argued the complete opposite. Who was right?

 

[Barney Rubble]

You're proving my point.

You wouldn't change your mind if Luka said any different. You're only using his opinion because it reinforces yours, and you're trying to justify it with this dumb shyt of him being this omniscient, completely non-partisan being when it comes to judging hoops.

My opinion is only as valuable as the results. As is the same for everyone.

Let me give you an example - many players (even superstars) came out and said Wiseman was the next great big man and best talent of his class, and I argued the complete opposite. Who was right?

Opinions are used to back-up facts. Financial opinions? Medical opinions? These opinions are given more weight because they are made by experts. Luka is an expert in his field and he is backing up my opinion, so I'm citing it. You disagree, cool, but this is a fan thread, not a hate thread. Your contrarian existence brings nothing of value to this thread. Why come where you're not wanted?

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Opinions are used to back-up facts. Financial opinions? Medical opinions? These opinions are given more weight because they are made by experts. Luka is an expert in his field and he is backing up my opinion, so I'm citing it.

There aren't any facts here though.

Medical and financial expertise is based upon actual evidence and research by folks whose jobs is to analyze, be objective and inform the pubic/clients. Luka is only an expert at playing the game - he is under no obligation to be truthful, or do the proper research about his views of the game. He say whatever he wants about the game (within reason) and nobody's life is at risk. Nobody is going to sue him. He's not going to be judged by a jury for his views of the game.

What a completely idiotic view to have of player opinions.

People that analyze the game are the experts of that field. Luka is not one of those people. He just plays the game.

Your contrarian existence brings nothing of value to this thread. Why come where you're not wanted?

I've been tagged in here countless times, so I'm only returning serve.

If you don't like it, put me on ignore.

 

[Barney Rubble]

put me on ignore.

Cool. Will do.

 

[WMG the 2nd]

This thread is very quiet all of a sudden

First good game in a month against hornets and lost even after Lamelo got hurt

Nice shooting tho

 

[WMG the 2nd]

Kobe was also and inefficient chucker/volume shooter

You must hate kobe

 

[Sccit]

Kobe was also and inefficient chucker/volume shooter

SMH