Blacks Were Enslaved Well into the 1960s

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Cute. I am well read and researched on the Freedman's Bureau. And I didn't use Wiki :smile:

People make the organization - do they not? Nor were they allocated proper resources or support.

So, therefore - former Confederates and other white people had no interest in helping Freedman - so what I stated is 100% correct.
the support is suppose to come from the people. the resources is suppose to come from the people. this is were we as a community started fukking up by expecting this wicked govt to do everything for us
 

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Today's sex slave trade is an offshoot of this. Young girls involved in prostitution rings at schools I've worked in said it was mostly white men participating in this.

People like caping for pimp and hoe shyt but the sexual exploitation of our children has always been primarily for consumption by whites.

White males make up the majority of people who participate in international sex slave trade and child trafficking and exploitation too.
 

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the support is suppose to come from the people. the resources is suppose to come from the people. this is were we as a community started fukking up by expecting this wicked govt to do everything for us

You are clearly a troll.

Freedman were newly freed slaves - with nothing. And their former enslavers were violently pissed they were no longer enslaved. They had no friends.
 

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The man I mentioned who used to enslave my ancestors was a Judge. He went to war for the Confederate then got pardoned and became a Freedman's Agent.

How messed up is that? So, those same Black people who were once enslaved by him - now were expected to go to him - their past enslaver for help.
 

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I definitely know about Black militias during Reconstruction. They did what they had to do. Reconstruction was VERY violent and white people evilness was on 10.

As one freedman in Louisiana recalled, “I would say to every colored soldier, ‘Bring your gun home.’”

After losing the Civil War, Southern states quickly adopted the Black Codes, laws designed to reestablish white supremacy by dictating what the freedmen could and couldn’t do. One common provision barred blacks from possessing firearms. To enforce the gun ban, white men riding in posses began terrorizing black communities. In January 1866, Harper’s Weekly reported that in Mississippi, such groups had “seized every gun and pistol found in the hands of the (so called) freedmen” in parts of the state. The most infamous of these disarmament posses, of course, was the Ku Klux Klan.
The Secret History of Guns

In response to the violence at Clinton and a similar white riot at Yazoo City, Governor Ames attempted to disarm the white paramilitary bands and clubs that had recently formed throughout the state. He assembled a state militia of two white and five black companies and appointed Caldwell as captain and commanding officer of the first of these companies to muster, Company A of the Second Regiment of the Mississippi Infantry. Although Caldwell and his men readied themselves for action, Ames was reluctant to force a confrontation with the white paramilitaries. In October 1875, however, the governor assigned Caldwell's company to deliver arms to another state militia company at Edwards Depot, thirty miles west of Jackson. The mere sight of Caldwell and his three hundred men, in uniform, armed, and in high spirits, their banners flying behind them, terrified whites, regardless of the fact that Caldwell's men were on official state business. A day after Caldwell delivered the arms to Edwards Depot, Governor Ames gave in to pressure from white Democrats and abandoned the militia experiment.
Caldwell, Charles, (1831 or 1832–25 Dec. 1875), blacksmith and state legislator
 

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Great Read:
Freedmen with Firearms: White Terrorism and Black Disarmament During Reconstruction

A white citizen of Meridian, M.H. Whitaker, provided extensive testimony concerning the condition of unrest and the anger of black citizens. ―Large squads of colored people were seen about in portions of the town in an organized form, with arms,‖ he described, and when the freedmen were questioned about the reason for state of armed readiness, they explained that ―they were going to fight the white people: if they wanted a fight.​

The testimony does not focus on the motivations of the armed freedmen, but it clearly demonstrates the general numbers of weapons in their possession surmised the count by comparison: ―White people always had arms, always kept one or two guns about their premises, for squirrel hunting and bird hunting. The colored people all have guns, I suppose, for the same purpose.
 

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You are clearly a troll.

Freedman were newly freed slaves - with nothing. And their former enslavers were violently pissed they were no longer enslaved. They had no friends.
no i'm clearly someone with more information on the topic then you. this is what i'm talking about= we just left black history month and everyone is still repeating the same lies. you don't have to call people names simply because you are coming across new info. the truth be told is the freedman were able to read and write much faster then whites and able to save millions in a couple of banks that were set up for them.
 

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no i'm clearly someone with more information on the topic then you. this is what i'm talking about= we just left black history month and everyone is still repeating the same lies. you don't have to call people names simply because you are coming across new info. the truth be told is the freedman were able to read and write much faster then whites and able to save millions in a couple of banks that were set up for them.

Yeah. Ok.

I'm sure that many did. But, the vast majority of the South - both White and Black were illiterate. That is why Freedman School's had just as many adults as children at first 60-100 students with One school and ONE teacher.

Many Freedman wanted to understand and read the contracts white folks were trying to make them sign - which many of them went directly through the Bureau. And they knew they were messed up.

The bureau helped planters and freedmen draft contracts on mutually agreeable terms – negotiating several hundred thousand contracts.​

And Yeah - they did.

Between 1865 and 1871 the Freedman's Bank opened some thirty-seven branch offices in seventeen states and the District of Columbia. In less than a decade, an estimated seventy thousand depositors had opened and closed accounts, with bank deposits totaling more the fifty-seven million dollars.(5)​

But:

In early 1874, however, overwhelmed by the effects of a 1870 amendment to its charter that changed its loan and investment policy, the Panic of 1873, problems of overexpansion, mismanagement, abuse, and outright fraud, the Freedman's Bank was on the brink of collapse. In March 1874, in an effort to maintain the confidence of its depositors, who had made "runs" on several of the branch offices, bank officials elected Frederick Douglas as president. Unaware of the true state of the bank's affairs, Douglass invested ten thousand dollars of his own money to demonstrate his faith in its future. After a few months of assessing the condition of the company, however, Douglass realized that he was "married to a corpse" and recommended to Congress that the bank be closed.(6)

Congress, by an act of June 20, 1874, authorized the trustees, with approval of the secretary of the treasury, to appointed a three-member board to take charge of the assets of the company and to report on its financial condition to the secretary of the treasury. On June 29, 1874, less than a week after the act passed, the Freedman's Bank closed. In 1881 Congress abolished a board of three commissioners and authorized the secretary of the treasury to appoint the comptroller of the currency to oversee the affairs of the bank. The comptroller was required to submit annual reports to Congress. The final report of the comptroller was made in 1920.

The closure of Freedman's Bank devastated the African American community. An idea that began as a well-meaning experiment in philanthropy had turned into an economic nightmare for tens of thousands African Americans who had entrusted their hard-earned money to the bank. Contrary to what many of its depositors were led to believe, the bank's assets were not protected by the federal government. Perhaps more far-reaching than the immediate lost of their tiny deposits, was the deadening effect the bank's closure had on many of the depositors' hopes and dreams for a brighter future. The bank's demise left bitter feelings of betrayal, abandonment, and distrust of the American banking system that would remain in the African American community for many years. While half of the depositors eventually received about three-fifths of the value of their accounts, others received nothing. Some depositors and their descendants spent more than thirty years petitioning Congress for reimbursement for losses.(7)

Sources:
The Freedman's Savings and Trust Company and African American Genealogical Research
Freedmen’s Savings and Trust Company (1865-1874) | The Black Past: Remembered and Reclaimed
http://civics.sites.unc.edu/files/2012/04/SharecroppingPPT.pdf
The Freedmen’s Bureau

Which again proves my point that the U.S. Congress Freedmen’s Bureau was not as helpful and great as some people try to hype it up to be.
 
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Yeah. Ok.

I'm sure that many did. But, the vast majority of the South - both White and Black were illiterate. That is why Freedman School's had just as many adults as children at first 60-100 students with One school and ONE teacher.

Many Freedman wanted to understand and read the contracts white folks were trying to make them sign - which many of them went directly through the Bureau. And they knew they were messed up.

The bureau helped planters and freedmen draft contracts on mutually agreeable terms – negotiating several hundred thousand contracts.​

And Yeah - they did.

Between 1865 and 1871 the Freedman's Bank opened some thirty-seven branch offices in seventeen states and the District of Columbia. In less than a decade, an estimated seventy thousand depositors had opened and closed accounts, with bank deposits totaling more the fifty-seven million dollars.(5)​

But:

In early 1874, however, overwhelmed by the effects of a 1870 amendment to its charter that changed its loan and investment policy, the Panic of 1873, problems of overexpansion, mismanagement, abuse, and outright fraud, the Freedman's Bank was on the brink of collapse. In March 1874, in an effort to maintain the confidence of its depositors, who had made "runs" on several of the branch offices, bank officials elected Frederick Douglas as president. Unaware of the true state of the bank's affairs, Douglass invested ten thousand dollars of his own money to demonstrate his faith in its future. After a few months of assessing the condition of the company, however, Douglass realized that he was "married to a corpse" and recommended to Congress that the bank be closed.(6)

Congress, by an act of June 20, 1874, authorized the trustees, with approval of the secretary of the treasury, to appointed a three-member board to take charge of the assets of the company and to report on its financial condition to the secretary of the treasury. On June 29, 1874, less than a week after the act passed, the Freedman's Bank closed. In 1881 Congress abolished a board of three commissioners and authorized the secretary of the treasury to appoint the comptroller of the currency to oversee the affairs of the bank. The comptroller was required to submit annual reports to Congress. The final report of the comptroller was made in 1920.

The closure of Freedman's Bank devastated the African American community. An idea that began as a well-meaning experiment in philanthropy had turned into an economic nightmare for tens of thousands African Americans who had entrusted their hard-earned money to the bank. Contrary to what many of its depositors were led to believe, the bank's assets were not protected by the federal government. Perhaps more far-reaching than the immediate lost of their tiny deposits, was the deadening effect the bank's closure had on many of the depositors' hopes and dreams for a brighter future. The bank's demise left bitter feelings of betrayal, abandonment, and distrust of the American banking system that would remain in the African American community for many years. While half of the depositors eventually received about three-fifths of the value of their accounts, others received nothing. Some depositors and their descendants spent more than thirty years petitioning Congress for reimbursement for losses.(7)

Sources:
The Freedman's Savings and Trust Company and African American Genealogical Research
Freedmen’s Savings and Trust Company (1865-1874) | The Black Past: Remembered and Reclaimednotttp://civics.sites.unc.edu/files/2012/04/SharecroppingPPT.pdf
The Freedmen’s Bureau

Which again proves my point that the U.S. Congress Freedmen’s Bureau was not as helpful and great as some people try to hype it up to be.
Frederick Douglas had a hand in why the freedmen bureau went in the direction it did. he did not consult anyone in the community with expertise on the matter, which is why it close
 

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Also the incarceration rates for blacks

Slavery is still out there just painted with a different brush





We're still enslaved, corralled into low wage service jobs that don't pay livable wages and forced to subsist in govt funded ghettos patrolled by white overseers (officers).
 

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Frederick Douglas had a hand in why the freedmen bureau went in the direction it did. he did not consult anyone in the community with expertise on the matter, which is why it close

Douglass was the last president of the bank and asked to be over the bank in 1874 - when it was already corrupted and on it's last leg.

No. The government did. You can't blame Frederick Douglass for the failures of Reconstruction. He was just placed in a position - he held no power like that. The even messed up part is more white people received aid from the Freedman's Bureau than Black.

It failed due to President Johnson, White Terrorism and the White Supremacist society of the South (and the North). Johnson vetoed the Civil Rights and the Freedman's Bureau Bill.

In 1866, Congress renewed the charter for the Bureau. President Andrew Johnson, a Southerner who had succeeded to the office following Lincoln's assassination, vetoed the bill because he believed that it encroached on states' rights, relied inappropriately on the military in peacetime, and would prevent freed slaves from becoming independent by offering too much assistance.

By 1869, the Bureau had lost most of its funding and as a result been forced to cut much of its staff. By 1870 the Bureau had been considerably weakened due to the rise of Ku Klux Klan violence in the South. In 1872, Congress abruptly abandoned the program, effectively shutting down the Bureau by refusing to approve renewal legislation.​

Refresh your memory:


‘A Treacherous President Stood in the Way’

and:

 
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