Blacks Were Enslaved Well into the 1960s

[get these nets]

I don't think it's far fetched that every nook and cranny of the South during that time was not reached. And these people seemed like they were sharecroppers anyway. They werent slaves technically, but still treated like slaves.

thanks. will read the full article.

 

[Supper]

thanks.
From roughly the end of the civil war to the 1877...Reconstruction was going on the American South. Northern soldiers and administrators were in charge down there enforcing federal laws. Not much different than post WW2 Japan or Germany when American military (&Allies) occupied.

Certainly things were harsh for Blacks in the South still, but if the article is saying that there was a steady line of slavery that was unbroken in the South through the 1960s, I'm gonna have to call BS.

That Reconstruction isn't mentioned in the article at all tells me most of what I need to know.

Mississippi black codes, including vagrancy laws and apprentice laws, passed immediately after the civil war.
Mississippi Black Codes (1865)

...If any freedman, free negro, or mulatto, convicted of any of the misdemeanors provided against in this act, shall fail or refuse for the space of five days, after conviction, to pay the fine and costs imposed, such person shall be hired out by the sheriff or other officer, at public outcry, to any white person who will pay said fine and all costs, and take said convict for the shortest time.

Sounds like indentured servitude to me.

 

[TEH]

Proof?

bytch nikka

fukk you

 

[get these nets]

Mississippi black codes, including vagrancy laws, passed immediately after the civil war.
Mississippi Black Codes (1865)



Sounds like indentured servitude to me.

It does, and you have not and will not read me say that that horrors of post civil war south were not real.

Blacks in US Congress during Reconstruction...including Senator Revels of Mississippi.

I was challenging the incomplete article as written by Vice.

 

[xoxodede]

I skimmed the article. Can you or anyone else tell me whether the article mentioned or accounted for the 12 years after the Civil War?

If it doesn't, it's a bogus article.

It was Sharecropping. My Grandfather died in the late 70's and he was a working on the farm he was under contract for when he fell out and died. The same land his father was a sharecropper after slavery and his grandfather was enslaved.

This is real. The towns are always way out and small.

Sharecropper contract, 1867 | Gilder Lehrman Institute of American History

. . . the said Cooper Hughs Freedman with his wife and one other woman, and the said Charles Roberts with his wife Hannah and one boy are to work on said farm and to cultivate forty acres in corn and twenty acres in cotton, to assist in putting the fences on said farm in good order and to keep them so and to do all other work on said farm necessary to be done to keep the same in good order and to raise a good crop and to be under the control and directions of said IG Bailey and to receive for their said services one half of the cotton and one third of the corn and fodder raised by them on said farm in said year 1867 and the said Charles Roberts Freedman with his wife Hannah further agrees and binds themselves to do the washing and Ironing, and all other necessary house work for said IG Bailey and his family during said year 1867 and to receive for their said services fifty dollars in money at the expiration of said year 1867 and the said Cooper Hughs Freedman further agrees and binds himself to give the necessary attention of feeding the Stock of cattle and milking the cows twice daily belong to said IG Bailey, and do the churning when ever necessary during the said year . . .​

 

[Supper]

Blacks in US Congress during Reconstruction...including Senator Revels of Mississippi.

I was challenging the incomplete article as written by Vice.

I haven't been over the vice article, but blatant attempts made in law at maintaining some form of slavery other than the chattel slavery that was abolished in 1865 were maintained in part by the federal government in the form of the Freedmens Bureau and the US army, themselves.

As the war ended, the US Army implemented Black Codes to regulate the behavior of black people in general society. Although the Freedmen's Bureau had a mandate to protect blacks from a hostile Southern environment, it also sought to keep blacks in their place as laborers in order to allow production on the plantations to resume so that the South could revive its economy.The Freedmen's Bureau cooperated with Southern authorities in rounding up black "vagrants" and placing them in contract work.In some places, it supported owners to maintain control of young slaves as apprentices

Black Codes (United States) - Wikipedia

And Revels, wasn't your typical black freedmen in MS. He was a born free mulatto.

 

[xoxodede]

thanks.
From roughly the end of the civil war to the 1877...Reconstruction was going on the American South. Northern soldiers and administrators were in charge down there enforcing federal laws. Not much different than post WW2 Japan or Germany when American military (&Allies) occupied.

Certainly things were harsh for Blacks in the South still, but if the article is saying that there was a steady line of slavery that was unbroken in the South through the 1960s, I'm gonna have to call BS.

That Reconstruction isn't mentioned in the article at all tells me most of what I need to know.

Northern soldiers were not there for long -- and only in certain areas. On top of that they didn't even want to be there. Freedman had to protect themselves.

The Freedman's Bureau and army did take action against violence, however, by the end of 1865 there were very few troops in the South.

Mapping Occupation: Force, Freedom, and the Army in Reconstruction

It maps where Union troops were stationed in the post-Confederate South. On the tabs you can find data sets that give you spreadsheets showing the exact number of soldiers in each place. Since these changed over time, you can follow those changes on the maps and spreadsheets.

 

[xoxodede]

I haven't been over the vice article, but blatant attempts made in law at maintaining some form of slavery other than the chattel slavery that was abolished in 1865 were maintained in part by the federal government in the form of the Freedmens Bureau and the US army, themselves.


Black Codes (United States) - Wikipedia

And Revels, wasn't your typical black freedmen in MS. He was a born free mulatto.

You should read more about the freedmen's bureau - they weren't really helpful and full of white people who didn't help nor want to help Freedman. The did it for a job.

The same man who enslaved one set of my ancestors - and fought in the Confederate army - became a Freedman Agent in the same area he was a slave owner.

 

[jackson35]

Amerikkka never abolished slavery. Realize that. It's in the US Constitution but people stay ignoring it like it's going to go away...WE HAVE TO END IT OURSELVES.

Nobody going to save us but us.

excellent, if we were more politically savvy, we would not be in bondage

 

[Houston911]

I’m sure there are still slaves today in America

 

[jackson35]

You should read more about the freedmen's bureau - they weren't really helpful and full of white people who didn't help nor want to help Freedman. The did it for a job.

The same man who enslaved one set of my ancestors - and fought in the Confederate army - became a Freedman Agent in the same area he was a slave owner.

you should use a better source then wiki. the freedmen bureau was not the problem, it's the people that were involved were the problem

 

[3rdWorld]

These people are evil and sadistic..

 

[Supper]

You should read more about the freedmen's bureau - they weren't really helpful and full of white people who didn't help nor want to help Freedman. The did it for a job.

The same man who enslaved one set of my ancestors - and fought in the Confederate army - became a Freedman Agent in the same area he was a slave owner.

Will do. And yes, freedmen in the beginning actually formed many armed militias to protect themselve, successfully in many cases, but were systematically disarmed by federal agencies, republican, and democratic entities, as well as through white terrorism alike.
http://cupola.gettysburg.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1027&context=gcjcwe

 

[xoxodede]

you should use a better source then wiki. the freedmen bureau was not the problem, it's the people that were involved were the problem

Cute. I am well read and researched on the Freedman's Bureau. And I didn't use Wiki

People make the organization - do they not? Nor were they allocated proper resources or support.

So, therefore - former Confederates and other white people had no interest in helping Freedman - so what I stated is 100% correct.

 

[xoxodede]

Will do. And yes, freedmen in the beginning actually formed many armed militias to protect themselve, successfully in many cases, but were systematically disarmed by federal agencies, republican, and democratic entities, as well as through white terrorism alike.
http://cupola.gettysburg.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1027&context=gcjcwe

I definitely know about Black militias during Reconstruction. They did what they had to do. Reconstruction was VERY violent and white people evilness was on 10.