Black teen misses bus, gets shot at after asking for directions in Rochester Hills

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More victim blaming.:snoop:

The kid did nothing wrong. Neither did his mom. The cacs DID, and thats why they are being punished. Period.

There is no "yeah but.." youre just taking blame away from these azzholes.

Its a billion reasonable scenarios in which a person may ring someone's doorbell in their own neighborhood. NONE of them should result in getting shot by some maniac in broad daylight. Wether or not the kid had his phone is COMPLETELY unrelated to what happened here.

Assigning blame to the mother for taking away the kid's only form of communication does not absolve the homeowner of any blame. The kid literally found himself there because he had no other way to properly orient himself in relation to his school, this is a fact, not conjecture.
 

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right on. he gets 2 years off top, but is facing more time apparently. I wonder whats going to happen to that dude in florida that shot the guy in the parking lot
 

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Assigning blame to the mother for taking away the kid's only form of communication does not absolve the homeowner of any blame. The kid literally found himself there because he had no other way to properly orient himself in relation to his school, this is a fact, not conjecture.
Actually, it does completely. Again, the child and mother are not to blame.
 

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If I had a child and the situation warranted it yes. I was allowed to roam freely without it, just like you, if you are over 25.

let's stop with the time machine arguments, we live in 2018. This child owns a cellphone in 2018 and his mother took it away from him. Cellphones are one of the only lines of defense in preventing us from having to knock on the doors of strangers in the even that we're lost in a strange place. His mother is directly responsible for him having to knock on the door of a stranger because she robbed him of his ability to reach out to someone he knows and trusts for help.
 

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Assigning blame to the mother for taking away the kid's only form of communication does not absolve the homeowner of any blame. The kid literally found himself there because he had no other way to properly orient himself in relation to his school, this is a fact, not conjecture.

:snoop:It doesnt matter why he was there.

Theres nothing wrong with ringing a doorbell in your own neighborhood in broad daylight, for any reason, cell phone or not. Period. Its a normal occurance.

The sooner you realize this, the sooner youll stop rambling like a numbskull. If you want to bytch and nitpick about kids having cell phones, go make your own seperate thread and do it there. Because its a seperate unrelated topic. You keep trying to play connect the dots and you just look like an imbecile, im sorry.
 
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:snoop:It doesnt matter why he was there.

Theres nothing wrong with ringing a doorbell in your own neighborhood in broad daylight, for any reason, cell phone or not. Period. Its a normal occurance.

The sooner you realize this, the sooner youll stop rambling like a numbskull. If you want to bytch and nitpick about kids having cell phones, go make your own seperate thread and do it there. Because its a seperate unrelated topic. You keep trying to play connect the dots and you just look like an imbecile, im sorry.

No one is arguing that there's anything wrong with ringing a doorbell, the point you keep glossing over is the conditions that led him to have to ring someone's doorbell.

1. His mother took away the phone he used as an alarm
2. He wakes up late as a result of this
3. He misses the bus
4. He tries to walk to school
5. He ends up lost in an unfamiliar neighborhood.

Typically, step 6 would be for him to either contact his mother to come get him or use a mapping app to help him navigate to school but his mother robbed him of both options.

6. He knocks on the door of a neighbor, the neighbor didn't provide much help.
7. He knocks on the door of another neighbor and is immediately perceived as a threat by the woman who answered, she screams at the top of her lungs and her husband who thinks she's in imminent danger runs downstairs to protect his wife.

Again, what the homeowner does is unacceptable but the actions of the kid's mom laid the foundation for him to end up there. If that's too difficult for you to grasp maybe it's a reflection of your inability to look at a full picture and make a complete and contextual assessment.

:manny:
 

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too many people in our community refuse to think logically, they start from their emotions and work their way backwards which is why we have all these ridiculous hypotheticals and arguments that are completely counterintuitive. I'm finally seeing that the only acceptable response to this thread is to state the obvious. "damn, that's fukked up, white people are racist". There's no room for assessing the circumstances that led to the kid accidentally knocking on the doors of white supremacists seeking help.


We have grown adults that refuse to stick to the facts of the case and for obvious reasons. The chain of events isn't something convoluted at all, it's pretty straight forward. The mother took the kid's phone, he woke up late, missed the bus, attempted to walk to school, got lost on the way and had no other choice but to knock on the door's of strangers because he didn't have any alternatives.


If a parent buys a child a cellphone, it's usually so they can communicate with each other in the event of an emergency. Emergency situations are completely unpredictable so the argument that "how would the mom know that he would get lost or miss the bus" is incredible because the people making this argument can't even recognize that they're arguing against their own position. A parent can't possibly know what will happen once the child walks out of the door, they only have an idea based on previous experiences. Emergency scenarios are deviations from the norm and that's the entire point of purchasing the cellphone.

Damn I never thought I'd dap a @Matt504 post. But logic is logic and he's spot on here. Yea dude od'd on his reaction to the situation and he deserves the prison time he got, but she totally put that boy in danger with her fairy tale "people should be able to knock on anybody's door", "village", bullshyt.

It didn't even have to be this situation, what if someone tried to kidnap him?

If that was my son, as soon as they arrested the guy I would have cussed my bm out for being so stupid
 

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No one is arguing that there's anything wrong with ringing a doorbell, the point you keep glossing over is the conditions that led him to have to ring someone's doorbell.

1. His mother took away the phone he used as an alarm
2. He wakes up late as a result of this
3. He misses the bus
4. He tries to walk to school
5. He ends up lost in an unfamiliar neighborhood.

Typically, step 6 would be for him to either contact his mother to come get him or use a mapping app to help him navigate to school but his mother robbed him of both options.

6. He knocks on the door of a neighbor, the neighbor didn't provide much help.
7. He knocks on the door of another neighbor and is immediately perceived as a threat by the woman who answered, she screams at the top of her lungs and her husband who thinks she's in imminent danger runs downstairs to protect his wife.

Again, what the homeowner does is unacceptable but the actions of the kid's mom laid the foundation for him to end up there. If that's too difficult for you to grasp maybe it's a reflection of your inability to look at a full picture and make a complete and contextual assessment.

:manny:

None of what you are saying is justifiable. A kid who wakes up late and misses school or is late should get detention not fear for their lives. So if a Jehovah witness knocks on the door they deserve to get clapped at too? I really don't get your point, there are numerous reasons why someone knocks on your door. and neither the kid nor the mother choices deserve to end in a near death experience. So this on the homeowner and only the homeowner. Kids get their phone's snatched daily by parents they don't all end in near death experiences.
 

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None of what you are saying is justifiable. A kid who wakes up late and misses school or is late should get detention not fear for their lives. So if a Jehovah witness knocks on the door they deserve to get clapped at too? I really don't get your point, there are numerous reasons why someone knocks on your door. and neither the kid nor the mother choices deserve to end in a near death experience. So this on the homeowner and only the homeowner. Kids get their phone's snatched daily by parents they don't all end in near death experiences.
Facts..

Breh dont even bother. He'll just ignore all your valid points and just repeat himself. Hes not concerned with having a productive convo or hearing what others have to say. He's just one of those idiots obsessed with seeming "right".
 

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No one is arguing that there's anything wrong with ringing a doorbell, the point you keep glossing over is the conditions that led him to have to ring someone's doorbell.

1. His mother took away the phone he used as an alarm
2. He wakes up late as a result of this
3. He misses the bus
4. He tries to walk to school
5. He ends up lost in an unfamiliar neighborhood.

Typically, step 6 would be for him to either contact his mother to come get him or use a mapping app to help him navigate to school but his mother robbed him of both options.

6. He knocks on the door of a neighbor, the neighbor didn't provide much help.
7. He knocks on the door of another neighbor and is immediately perceived as a threat by the woman who answered, she screams at the top of her lungs and her husband who thinks she's in imminent danger runs downstairs to protect his wife.

Again, what the homeowner does is unacceptable but the actions of the kid's mom laid the foundation for him to end up there. If that's too difficult for you to grasp maybe it's a reflection of your inability to look at a full picture and make a complete and contextual assessment.

:manny:

He's saying the kid should not have to fear for his life knocking on someone else's door. Irrespective of if he has phone or not. This is not the 1930's.
 
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