black peoples obsession with the white gaze is pathetic

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I've seen people talking about the 'sanctity of the Oscar'. :mjlol: Really? :stopitslime: Sanctity?

yeah, that's kinda goofy. Acting like it wouldn't be bad if if were the BET or Soul Train Awards or even Stella Awards.

Will handled it poorly.

Other people have said SUBSTANTIALLY worse shyt about Jada. nikkaz made songs and shyt.

Biggest issue to me is it overshadowed Sam Jack, Qwestlove, Steph, and even Will's own first Oscar.
 

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this has less to do with gaze and more to do with consequence. once you're out in the real world you'll have a more practical understanding of this.

Will Packer, a Black man, was given the opportunity to produce the Academy Awards this year and this happens. Who do you think gives someone like a Will Packer the opportunity to produce an awards show of this scale and prestige? LeBron? Jay Z? Magic Johnson?

You've just contradicted yourself :gucci:


It's not about White gaze? yet you're concerned that a black person now won't be able produce another white award show

Only White Awards shows are "prestigious" :mjpls:


Everything you've mentioned is obsession white gaze
 

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I've seen people talking about the 'sanctity of the Oscar'. :mjlol: Really? :stopitslime: Sanctity?
:deadrose:
yessir- sanctity of the oscars is sanctioned . Don’t goez messing it ups with dem whyte peoplez and stirring ups dat bad trubba
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:mjlol::mjlol:

Didnt “The Help” win an academy award??But not “Do The Right Thing” though. That’ll learn ya. Hush up and take what they give you - don’t make them uncomfortable with your controversy in their eyes - Dey iz watching.
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Sanctify, they said
Viola Davis Regrets Making The Help: “It Wasn’t the Voices of the Maids That Were Heard”
The actress spoke candidly about her dissatisfaction with the movie’s plot, which largely centered its white characters.
Viola Davis Regrets Making The Help: “It Wasn’t the Voices of the Maids That Were Heard”

Interesting.
 
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i just don't think black men should go around slapping people over "honor". you are not will smith, you will get arrested and go to jail. or worse, the other person takes it to the next level and you end up dead over a joke.
NOBODY should be slappin anybody over harmless jokes. WHITE BLACK ASIAN MEXICAN NATIVE AMERICA FKIN PAPALASIAN SAMOAN. PERIOD. Will did that shxt in front of the entire world, it doesnt matter that he is black; people inserting that bullshxit into the narrative are peabrain idiots. he's wrong, folks should stop defending it just because he's a troubled black man or whatever folks try to use as an excuse. the folks doing so for c00neric reasons talking about "it was just a slap....<insert deflection here>" if a mf slapped any of you network television, would you claim it's just a slap?
 

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This is what @Matt504 considers helpful - according to him Viola Davis “needs to shut up and be thankful, stop upsetting the haze of the whites” Even though they’ve continued to depict us the same way.

“since Viola Davis was nominated for an Academy Award for her portrayal of 1960s housemaid Aibileen Clark in 2011's The Help, a role she's publicly regretted since its release due to the marginalization of Black maids and its "white savior" narrative.
Viola Davis regrets role in 'The Help': 'Feels like I betrayed myself, and my people'

McDaniel then was escorted, not to the Gone With the Wind table — where Selznick sat with de Havilland and his two Oscar-nominated leads, Vivien Leigh and Clark Gable — but to a small table set against a far wall, where she took a seat with her escort, F.P. Yober, and her white agent, William Meiklejohn. With the hotel’s strict no-blacks policy, Selznick had to call in a special favor just to have McDaniel allowed into the building
Oscar’s First Black Winner Accepted Her Honor in a Segregated ‘No Blacks’ Hotel in L.A
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NOBODY should be slappin anybody over harmless jokes. WHITE BLACK ASIAN MEXICAN NATIVE AMERICA FKIN PAPALASIAN SAMOAN. PERIOD. Will did that shxt in front of the entire world, it doesnt matter that he is black; people inserting that bullshxit into the narrative are peabrain idiots. he's wrong, folks should stop defending it just because he's a troubled black man or whatever folks try to use as an excuse. the folks doing so for c00neric reasons talking about "it was just a slap....<insert deflection here>" if a mf slapped any of you network television, would you claim it's just a slap?
There’s a 500+ page megathread for this arguing about that shyt - use it. That’s not what this thread is about.
 

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"oh lawd you nikkas can't be acting like that in front of them white folks"

White people hate your black ass because you're black. Act and speak like a Victorian era king and they will still hate and stereotype your black ass.

All the people coming out after the Will Smith slap saying he made black people look bad just showed how pathetic and mentally defeated they are.

Black people do not have to be superhuman and be free of all human weakness becuase white people are watching. That's is their fukked up nature and evilness and we aren't responsible for doing maintenance.
You're right but they staged that so low IQ negros think we ain't shyt
 

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You've just contradicted yourself :gucci:


It's not about White gaze? yet you're concerned that a black person now won't be able produce another white award show

Only White Awards shows are "prestigious" :mjpls:


Everything you've mentioned is obsession white gaze

He also said this shyt.

Black people are not judged by the same measuring stick as white people are in this country and it's long past time we understand this and move accordingly.

c00ns like him can't come out and say what's on their mind so they're always tripping over their own contradictions.

If you're willing to accept that we're measured by a different stick, you should be able to understand why it is necessary to give the middle finger.

It boils down to control. You get people thinking that they must not fall short in your eyes, you own them.
 
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Let's put ethnic image and Black perception aside

Imagine working for 30 years and despite being extremely successful people not really taking you super serious as an actor. Fair or not. Now imagine being the star of one of the most positive and thoughtful Black movies there has been in a long time. Nothing but universal critical acclaim playing the father of 2 of the most influential Black women in sports as their younger selves. Honoring both families in the process. This night is a coronation ceremony essentially a maybe a quantum shift who knows.

This wasn't just an event for white people the entire world was watching and there is no excuse for what Will did. It wouldn't be ok at the BET awards either.

I actually like Will but that shyt could overshadow the doors that the Best Actor awards would have opened for him and others.
Now imagine sitting there on a night in which your acting feat is being honored, your role in consideration for the best acting nod, and having your wife clowned by one of the hosts because of her physical appearance.

And, I think it’s appropriate to mention the context of her medical condition. She’s an actress herself, and she was among her peers in the industry, at a ceremony meant to celebrate the art and craft of filmmaking. What Rock did was not just hurtful, it was a slight against her standing as an actress among every other actor and actress she sat among that night.

:francis:
 

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Now imagine sitting there on a night in which your acting feat is being honored, your role in consideration for the best acting nod, and having your wife clowned by one of the hosts because of her physical appearance.

And, I think it’s appropriate to mention the context of her medical condition. She’s an actress herself, and she was among her peers in the industry, at a ceremony meant to celebrate the art and craft of filmmaking. What Rock did was not just hurtful, it was a slight against her standing as an actress among every other actor and actress she sat among that night.

:francis:

That shyt was lightweight and comedians have said way worse and Will and Jada was laughing at that shyt.

Chris could have made an August Alsina joke if he wanted to be especially nasty.
 

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:mjlol:a person got slapped in the face. ya'll gotta chill breh

it ain't never that goddamn serious that the whole populace of black folk need to self-reflect cause some dude got a damn pat on the jaw.


fukk what white people think cause most think that anyway.


how about it was just embarrassing for us among us? no home training.
 
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