Black people should move to the South says black New York Times writer

[HarlemHottie]

Exactly what it says. The only way forward is together.

This response is a non sequitur... unless you're implying that a "victim mentality," a, exists (bc that's white supremacist bs), and, b, is somehow stopping us from moving 'forward together.'

Who is 'us' and where are we going?

 

[HarlemHottie]

When I wanted a backyard i had one.

I have a backyard rn and a front yard.

 

[bnew]

The south is the best place to live right now

poor public transportation infrastructure, poorer economy than the north or coastal states, and racist state governments.

 

[Sad Bunny]

I want to live in Florida.

 

[MajesticLion]

This response is a non sequitur... unless you're implying that a "victim mentality," a, exists (bc that's white supremacist bs), and, b, is somehow stopping us from moving 'forward together.'

Who is 'us' and where are we going?

I'm not playing any interpretive-dance games with you, you know that full well.


Look around for yourself and you tell me where things are going. You're more than capable enough to face those answers.

 

[murksiderock]

Got family in Atlanta and it was cool when I was out there visiting… Had no issues aside from the valet charging me more to park up front to assure my rental wouldnt get broken into and the gay bussy built nikkas hittin on me at that mall on/near peachtree

First time I ever experienced unwarranted police aggression was in Houston

fukk florida

Georgia is one of the worst states, Atlanta one of the worst cities, only reason it gets gassed is because there's so many of us there, and a large middle class and upper class for us...

For a city and state with so many black people, it has astonishingly embarrassing poverty levels and violence levels for black people. fukk Georgia and Atlanta, they really ain't nothing for anybody to brag on...

That’s just one city in the south. Atl, Houston, charlotte, and others are thriving good for a lot of black folks.

Except it isn't just one city...

Let me just say that anywhere black people are, there's an amount of us who thrive. But there are plenty of majority or plurality black cities from Memphis to Birmingham to Norfolk to Baltimore to New Orleans to Baton Rouge, on and on, who are all not optimal places for black people...

Atlanta really isn't, either...

There are a handful of cities in the South that are great for us. A handful, not really more than other regions, we just gas the South cities so much because they typically are lower cost of living, better weather...

lol, ok. The mayor control those cities and not the gov, you need to do more research. The south is the best place for black folks, especially in the major cities.

 

[The BasedFather]

I’d rather stay here in Michigan

 

[murksiderock]

Large Southern Cities that are great for black people (no order)
Virginia Beach
Raleigh
Charlotte
Atlanta
Orlando
Nashville
Dallas
Houston

That's really about it, and I'm skeptical about Orlando but it's the one Florida city that seems to have the most momentum behind it for us...

We have to stop pretending the entirety of the South offers the same advantages abd quality of life region-wide...

There are also a handful of smaller, notable southern cities that are dope for us (Huntsville, Alabama being maybe the best one)...

 

[HarlemHottie]

I'm not playing any interpretive-dance games with you, you know that full well.


Look around for yourself and you tell me where things are going. You're more than capable enough to face those answers.

I'm asking you seriously because I don't see how black immigrants help US 'move forward'.

I mean no disrespect, they're quite industrious, but studies show they maintain ethnic, cultural, and social ties well through the third generation. How does that help me and mine? I'm in NYC and I don't see it. They not breaking bread.

 

[Pirius Black]

@King Poetic @Ol’Otis @Paper Boi @LezJepzin

This is exactly why you will never hear me support Black Californians who say California is done for us and we should all leave. fukk that! We've done waaayyyyy too much for the state to just roll over and pack up, and to each its own, but that message that we allow ourselves to be pushed out is not something I'll ever advocate for...

Stay there and fight for the neighborhoods we still have, fight for the resources we deserve, continue capitalizing on the opportunities to close inequality gaps right there in California...

Also, I live in the South, so I also have a perspective against this "wonderland" these agendas paint the South as. It's great in spots, and not great in others---->just like Cali and everywhere else...



North Carolina is better than all these places...

Where is the southern state that black people control the state politics? Show me just one, please...

You guys who push this, everybody return to the South rhetoric, fail to realize or acknowledge two important things. 1, the consequences that'll have for black people in other parts of the country, if, say, 95% of black people lived in The South. And 2, there was a time the South as a region was 40%+ black. The past is an indicator of the future...

Black people can control the state politics if they aggregate. Which is the entire point of a 'return.' To address your 2 points, on point 1, no group other than Whites can one reasonably assume to find everywhere. Other groups have concentrated along certain geographical boundaries, why would it be weird for us to be similarly concentrated?
The consequences for those Black folk are already apparent, hyper targeted by law enforcement, little to no representation in colleges and universities and indifference from the political system that can either disregard your vote or take it for granted. As to your second point, that 40+% was disenfranchised. We would not be arriving into similar circumstances.

 

[MajesticLion]

I'm asking you seriously because I don't see how black immigrants help US 'move forward'.

I mean no disrespect, they're quite industrious, but studies show they maintain ethnic, cultural, and social ties well through the third generation. How does that help me and mine? I'm in NYC and I don't see it. They not breaking bread.

Worldview problems identified.

 

[The BasedFather]

Large Southern Cities that are great for black people (no order)
Virginia Beach
Raleigh
Charlotte
Atlanta
Orlando
Nashville
Dallas
Houston

That's really about it, and I'm skeptical about Orlando but it's the one Florida city that seems to have the most momentum behind it for us...

We have to stop pretending the entirety of the South offers the same advantages abd quality of life region-wide...

There are also a handful of smaller, notable southern cities that are dope for us (Huntsville, Alabama being maybe the best one)...

Is Orlando the best city in Florida? Is there a ton to do down there?

 

[CashmereThoughts]

I have a backyard rn and a front yard.

Mans said this like we all live in the tenements

 

[murksiderock]

Black people can control the state politics if they aggregate. Which is the entire point of a 'return.' To address your 2 points, on point 1, no group other than Whites can one reasonably assume to find everywhere. Other groups have concentrated along certain geographical boundaries, why would it be weird for us to be similarly concentrated?
The consequences for those Black folk are already apparent, hyper targeted by law enforcement, little to no representation in colleges and universities and indifference from the political system that can either disregard your vote or take it for granted. As to your second point, that 40+% was disenfranchised. We would not be arriving into similar circumstances.

Some head in the sand stuff in this post...

So I live in Raleigh, which I do think is among the best cities for black people, and it's in NC which I definitely think is the top state for us. And yet, here are some points you mentioned that we still have here:

•hyper targeted by police. Pick a big Carolina city, they all have this issue;

•the chasm in funding and resources of HBCUs compared to PWIs. We have like 13 HBCUs in NC. It's an annual conversation on the gap between our HBCUs and the PWIs, in the hire rate of graduates from an HBCU or PWI, limited representation at leadership or student levels of North Carolina's biggest schools. The higher cost of PWIs compared to HBCUs disproportionately affects BLACK STUDENTS, a gap that seemingly increases every year

.....

What I will say is that we have GOAT level representation at local levels in NC's big cities, from the city councils and mayorships to school boards to police departments, etc. This DOES have an effect on the communities and how we are resourced and perceived. It's better than 99% of the US, in Charlotte and Raleigh specifically...

We could never control state politics if we don't have the affluence, and that doesn't happen with simply having the heads. There are plenty of old money gatekeepers here, I'm not saying it's an impossibility, but it's for sure a long shot. And if North Carolina can't be a state controlled by Black people at the political level, no state will...

 

[HarlemHottie]

Worldview problems identified.

Please explain.