Black Panther is ProBlack and anybody hating on it isn’t

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I dont have any issues with the potential positive effects of the film.

Op is saying that because of the FILM the actors will spend their hard earned dollars in the black community, whereas the inclination is they where not before, yet the comic book character made movie is supposed to change a whole consciousness of people?
Did he say spend or circulate? Passing wealth to your children as well as funding future projects to employ other blacks can be seen as circulating dollars in the black community.
After Earth, Miracle at St Anna, and Birth of a nation all should have been black blockbusters. Those were major films created and produced by black people and black companies and black folks didn't support them. Had black folks supported them that would have paved the way for those same black studios to do even bigger projects.

But since black folks didn't support there is almost 0 incentive for black actors and moguls to stick there neck out and risk their money and careers after they see black folks didn't support Nate parker, spike lee, or will smith the way they should have.
I didn't anticipate St. Anna nor BOAN to be blockbusters though they should've been bigger than they were, but that may depend on our definitions of a blockbuster.
 

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Too many brehs nowadays chase (or in this case, hope for) intangibles. OP even said "generational opportunity" :snoop: From WHITES, at that. THAT'S black excellence? Hope for some future shyt that you might not even get from Mr Charlie?


"We might get another good job from them again years down the line :stylin:"

You're getting all giddy over the hopes of a future job (opportunity) from whites. A FUTURE JOB from whites. "If they gets a job, maybe some more of us will get a job like that in the future" is what you're saying.

nikkas need to start focusing on TANGIBLE things. Things that you can acquire yourself and pass to your kids.
 
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Jason is exactly right

These "it don't matter who owns it!" nikkas are delusional. It's bigger than just this scenario, they apply this way of thinking to everything in life. "It doesn't matter who owns the businesses! So what if we don't have an economic base!"

Ownership absolutely DOES matter and i've been saying it since i joined this board. But most nikkas on here and in general refuse to believe it.

It's pathetic that in 2018 you still have to try to convince or debate with other black people about the importance of ownership. The importance of ownership should be common sense and not even up for debate :mindblown: i'm done
 
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I get what op is trying to say, this movie can be a couple of things. One is which a successful movie will lead to a sequel and so forth, that will have the actors & actresses in the movie get bigger pay days and more roles. Which can generate wealth that can be passed down to their family. 2nd thing the hype of the film can be is a black inspiration for future black directors, actors, producers, camera people, crew, etc. from a movie & producing side of it. Not to mention what this can be for children and teens, that can be interested in technology that is used in the film.

All of the negative response from "black" people about this movie and in this thread is basically a form of this

Haters are the ones in the shower caps:lolbron:

NBC(white owned) was the platform for a Different World and look how many was inspired by that to go off to college and did better for themselves.

Chadwick was on the breakfast club and was talking about this today. (at the 19:16 mark)
 
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Half the cast of this movie are PAWGing, but whatever you nikkas say. All i know is my business is doing good over here and i have something TANGIBLE to pass down to my own kids. Trying to get you nikkas to finally understand the importance of ownership instead of just telling your kids to go get a job from a white person, if you hate to hear the importance of ownership then that says more about you. And the truth is, it's extremely hard to get rich just by working a 9 to 5. You have to have other stuff going on besides a little job. I'm talking about "regular" black men who frequent this board and are reading this thread, not famous black men in the entertainment industry. You're not those dudes and you need to focus on your own financial future. If you really think that's bad advice or hating then you're a lost cause

I don't care if you nikkas don't want to hear that, because if you're not building, that will be your problem later, not mine. You're only screwing yourself. I'm doing great and will continue to. My kids are set. If you're fine with not owning anything, and your kids having to go to your white bosses' kids for a future job, then cool. Your boss is going to pass his business down to his kids, but your kids are going to have to go to them and put in an application. Generational begging
 
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You can't reason with these simpletons.
They don't care about black advancement, they just want whites to recognize them and give a few of them some crumbs off the table.
shyt is sad as hell
Close thread. And we are dealing with a fuxload of simple minded folks. So dont waste your time. Just sit back, look and laugh.
 

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Not symbolism, facts

Not talking about the imagery of BP, but the work.

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Big pieces of Denzel Washington’s career is only possible because of Sidney Poitier, and Denzel Washington started a whole new avenue of wealth that he’ll pass down to his children :smile:

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His son is here because of his father, who’s here partly because of Poitier

Who grew up outside of Poverty because of work his father put in.



You can't being FACTS to simpletons:yeshrug:




Great post tho:salute:
 

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Not symbolism, facts

Not talking about the imagery of BP, but the work.

3ace655976109736fca653ebcd4d11b0--black-actors-denzel-washington.jpg


Big pieces of Denzel Washington’s career is only possible because of Sidney Poitier, and Denzel Washington started a whole new avenue of wealth that he’ll pass down to his children :smile:

m0916_nb_denzelson_a-044f91ff-4a1f-42cd-b702-4d1b31a32310.jpg


His son is here because of his father, who’s here partly because of Poitier

Who grew up outside of Poverty because of work his father put in.



You can't being FACTS to simpletons:yeshrug:




Great post tho:salute:
 

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Capitalism is not white supremacy. Capitalism is just a system of private ownership and trade.

Now the laws and institutions set up by the us government that influence Capitalism in America are arguably white supremacist. But Capitalism itself is a neutral system.
Yeah but you just said it your self, a lot of your money goes to either white supremacist imperialism to the U.S Govt, WS corporations who exploit many communities around the world, and WS systems like education, housing, subsidies, loans, and job availability (These usually benefit whites the most, not only). This is all fueled by capitalism, if you are not a beneficiary you are usually a loser. The losers of capitalism usually receive chemical dangers, if their resources arent being exploited directly they don't receive the updated infrastructure that the beneficiaries of capitalism receive. They have higher crime as high paying jobs not being in close proximity, criminalizing certain behaviors that mainly the losers get in trouble for. They have low access too food even though a lot of these places grow food for export. While capitalism technically could've been taken over by any people its roots are in white supremacy and the primary recipients are whites and the biggest winners are mostly whites.
 

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Yeah but you just said it your self, a lot of your money goes to either white supremacist imperialism to the U.S Govt, WS corporations who exploit many communities around the world, and WS systems like education, housing, subsidies, loans, and job availability (These usually benefit whites the most, not only). This is all fueled by capitalism, if you are not a beneficiary you are usually a loser. The losers of capitalism usually receive chemical dangers, if their resources arent being exploited directly they don't receive the updated infrastructure that the beneficiaries of capitalism receive. They have higher crime as high paying jobs not being in close proximity, criminalizing certain behaviors that mainly the losers get in trouble for. They have low access too food even though a lot of these places grow food for export. While capitalism technically could've been taken over by any people its roots are in white supremacy and the primary recipients are whites and the biggest winners are mostly whites.

The system in America is not really 'Capitalism' per se. The (WS) government regularly intervenes into the economy and makes winners and losers.

What is to say a black man can't go to another Capitalist country, say Japan or Singapore or some Capital ist country in Africa and make a name and fortune for himself?

Like I said Capitalism itself is not the problem. The problem is the US government and other Western institutions of dominance and control like the central bank system.
 

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The system in America is not really 'Capitalism' per se. The (WS) government regularly intervenes into the economy and makes winners and losers.

What is to say a black man can't go to another Capitalist country, say Japan or Singapore or some Capital ist country in Africa and make a name and fortune for himself?

Like I said Capitalism itself is not the problem. The problem is the US government and other Western institutions of dominance and control like the central bank system.
Any "body" can make it in a capitalist system, there are many black millionaires and even a few billionaires. The same can happen anywhere in the world if they aren't movie levels of racist. What you are not going to see is a community of blacks make it in a capitalist system. Every time we tried to do it we were sabotaged, this happened with white flight and the white controlled housing market. This happened with black wall street and the white controlled state, police, and media. This continues to happen with the regulation of the perpetual cycle of poverty through prisons, and criminalizing behavior shown through the war on Drugs and places like Ferguson where they harass the population economically. This will happen in every country when there are too many "others" thriving in a capitalist system. You can tell this because in most countries the lighter skinned populations do the same thing to the darker skinned populations, and usually exploit them at the same time. The primary beneficiaries of capitalism are white people not the only beneficiaries. And I agree with you but The US gov retains control through capitalism
 

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Any "body" can make it in a capitalist system, there are many black millionaires and even a few billionaires. The same can happen anywhere in the world if they aren't movie levels of racist. What you are not going to see is a community of blacks make it in a capitalist system. Every time we tried to do it we were sabotaged, this happened with white flight and the white controlled housing market. This happened with black wall street and the white controlled state, police, and media. This continues to happen with the regulation of the perpetual cycle of poverty through prisons, and criminalizing behavior shown through the war on Drugs and places like Ferguson where they harass the population economically. This will happen in every country when there are too many "others" thriving in a capitalist system. You can tell this because in most countries the lighter skinned populations do the same thing to the darker skinned populations, and usually exploit them at the same time. The primary beneficiaries of capitalism are white people not the only beneficiaries. And I agree with you but The US gov retains control through capitalism

And what do you propose to replace capitalism with? Soviet style communism?:patrice:

Nothing else works. It goes against human nature. Capitalism can be corrupted as it isn't perfect, but it is better than all the alternatives.

I think in a way you are missing the point. Capitalism is a human system because it's designed for human nature (selfishness), it's for everyone not just white people. Whites are not more human than blacks.
 
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