Black Muslims: This don't plauge yo mind?

[KILLAKUTT7]

Actually Islam teaches equality, just because some people say they belong to a group but their actions show otherwise doesn't make them genuinely part of that group.

OP lost /thread

this is how i feel

some people call themselves Muslim but they are actually heathens

for example, Sadaam Hussein was one of the most disgusting human beings ever- i read the book written by the body double of one of hussein's sons and that family was sick and not close to anything muslim

i was happy when saddam's sons were blown up and happy when saddam was hanged- they deserved worse

and Saddam shouted "Allah Akbar" before he was hanged- too late for that disgusting person

these people keeping slaves are disgusting and are not really muslims

African Americans have the biggest conversion rate than any other race to Islam in America

most of the converts to Islam are better than the people who claim to be "born Muslim"

on a sidenote- no one can be born muslim- u choose your religion when u get to a certain age- i actually studied the Quran, Bible, and Torah when I was 19/20 years old- and i stayed with Islam (my parents religion)

At the Mosques i go to, they have all different races praying together- most muslims treat other muslims (no matter what race) as their brothers- i also follow this doctrine

 

[Techniec]

My problem is not with blacks following Islam. That's not the issue. The issue is certain Black Muslims on here claiming that Islam is "pro-African" or "pro-Black", and going into other threads denouncing European imperialism/colonialism/slavery/forced conversions to Christianity and then experiencing cognitive dissonance about the history/roots of Islam

.It's highly disingenuous.

I would never disagree with that assertion and the notion that Islam is pro Black is not genuine.

I just feel to a true Muslim, Islam is egalitarian and colour blind, and its irrelevant whether its not pro Black. Even the African slavery would be chalked up to the faults of man, considering the (albeit on a lesser scale) slave trade of Turks, Caucasus types, Balkan Christians, Hindus etc

I disagree with the idea that a Black man cant be a Muslim because its based on faulty logic (Muslims did bad things to black people). That same logic applies to any and every one., (Muslims have done bad things to everyone, including Arabs).

Of course you can take this step furthest, and say well youre a moron if you believe any religion including (or especially?) Islam. But again, whats the point, you might as well rant at a wall

 

[Type Username Here]

I would never disagree with that assertion and the notion that Islam is pro Black is not genuine.

I just feel to a true Muslim, Islam is egalitarian and colour blind, and its irrelevant whether its not pro Black. Even the African slavery would be chalked up to the faults of man, considering the (albeit on a lesser scale) slave trade of Turks, Caucasus types, Balkan Christians, Hindus etc

I disagree with the idea that a Black man cant be a Muslim because its based on faulty logic (Muslims did bad things to black people). That same logic applies to any and every one., (Muslims have done bad things to everyone, including Arabs).

Of course you can take this step furthest, and say well youre a moron if you believe any religion including (or especially?) Islam. But again, whats the point, you might as well rant at a wall

They can believe in what they want. I obviously disagree on a philosophical and scientific level about their beliefs, but that is not what this thread is about.

If the same thread was about Indigenous natives in the Americas and Christianity, you'd hear the exact same responses from me.

 

[Just like bruddas]

I have been reading the Qur'an for quite sometime now and I havent read anything saying Islam support black slavery, i have read about the Arabs doing it in their cultures and country yes, but I didnt become Muslim to be like them to be accepted by them. I did it to be accepted by Allah and him only plus didnt our beloved prophet pbuh freed some slaves?

 

[Just like bruddas]

My problem is not with blacks following Islam. That's not the issue. The issue is certain Black Muslims on here claiming that Islam is "pro-African" or "pro-Black", and going into other threads denouncing European imperialism/colonialism/slavery/forced conversions to Christianity and then experiencing cognitive dissonance about the history/roots of Islam.

It's highly disingenuous.

Islam is pro everything breh, doesnt matter what color you are. I have prayed with all colors breh and we respect each other. You comparing to something thats been in the works 100s of years before the prophet pbuh spread the words about Islam.

A lot of people love to bend the truth to fit their purpose, if you gonna go into slavery then tell the whole truth. Tell that poor Arabs were trade for poor Africans and how losing army would become slaves to the victor?

Arabs enslaved us, but is that gonna stop me from submitting to Allah? Should it stop me?

The origins are Arabic but that doesnt mean its has something to do with the slave trade, hell if its origins where African it would be better cause the had slaves back them too.

 

[True Weltch Media]

My problem is not with blacks following Islam. That's not the issue. The issue is certain Black Muslims on here claiming that Islam is "pro-African" or "pro-Black", and going into other threads denouncing European imperialism/colonialism/slavery/forced conversions to Christianity and then experiencing cognitive dissonance about the history/roots of Islam.

It's highly disingenuous.

Maybe because there are Black heroes that had a positive view of Islam

Marcus Garvey:

declared before an audience at Liberty Hall, in Harlem, New York on September 17, 1922 "…everybody knows that Mohammed was a Negro…Negroes on this side of the river had accepted Christ, while on the other side, many of them, had accepted Mohammed. The administration was not endeavoring to bring Mohammed into the Western world.

"…You white men, have taught us the love of God, you have had us to see Him in all goodness and perfection; is He a mockery to you? He must be something real. Must we by your actions deny His goodness and love for us, and seek and search for the God of Africa, The Allah most High, Noble and Almighty?"

 

[theworldismine13]

I have been reading the Qur'an for quite sometime now and I havent read anything saying Islam support black slavery, i have read about the Arabs doing it in their cultures and country yes, but I didnt become Muslim to be like them to be accepted by them. I did it to be accepted by Allah and him only plus didnt our beloved prophet pbuh freed some slaves?

thats fine, that falls under freedom of religion, but dont ever come here talmbout islam is the black man's religion or that a black person owes anything to the muslim world

 

[Just like bruddas]

thats fine, that falls under freedom of religion, but dont ever come here talmbout islam is the black man's religion or that a black person owes anything to the muslim world

Islam is everyone religion, people owes everything to God's world.

 

[theworldismine13]

Islam is everyone religion, people owes everything to God's world.

islam can suk my dikk, people, black people specifically in this case, can do and believe whatever the fuk they want as far as god and religion, thats freedom of religion, whatever you believe has nothing to with me or any other black person

 

[Just like bruddas]

islam can suk my dikk, people, black people specifically in this case, can do and believe whatever the fuk they want as far as god and religion, thats freedom of religion, whatever you believe has nothing to with me or any other black person

Once again Islam is everyone religion and the world owes God

Think for a sec... we was just talking about how you hate when ppl say its pro black, its pro everyone thus is everyone religion.

 

[theworldismine13]

Once again Islam is everyone religion and the world owes God

Think for a sec... we was just talking about how you hate when ppl say its pro black, its pro everyone thus is everyone religion.

thanks for sharing your thoughts and once again here are my thoughts, islam can suk my dikk, and its not a pro black religion and under freedom of religion you can believe whatever you want to believe, your religious beliefs have nothing to do with me

and saying its pro-everyone is a meaningless superficial statement

 

[Just like bruddas]

thanks for sharing your thoughts and once again here are my thoughts, islam can suk my dikk, and its not a pro black religion and under freedom of religion you can believe whatever you want to believe, your religious beliefs have nothing to do with me

and saying its pro-everyone is a meaningless superficial statement

its pro anyone cause any race can join but its your life i cant hate you for having your own opinion.

come here breh

 

[theworldismine13]

its pro anyone cause any race can join but its your life i cant hate you for having your own opinion.

come here breh

im not worried about you hating me, its my constitutional right to have whatever opinion i want about islam, and its your constitutional right to your own religious beliefs

and in terms of black history its important to understand christianity and islam have very similar histories

im not sure what else is there to say beyond that

if you say islam is pro-everyone, thats fine, i dont see what islam being "pro-everyone" has to do with constitutional rights and historical facts

are you on here trying to proselytize?

 

[Just like bruddas]

im not worried about you hating me, its my constitutional right to have whatever opinion i want about islam, and its your constitutional right to your own religious beliefs

and in terms of black history its important to understand christianity and islam have very similar histories

im not sure what else is there to say beyond that

if you say islam is pro-everyone, thats fine, i dont see what islam being "pro-everyone" has to do with constitutional rights and historical facts

are you on here trying to proselytize?

what gives you that idea?

 

[Type Username Here]

Islam is pro everything breh, doesnt matter what color you are. I have prayed with all colors breh and we respect each other. You comparing to something thats been in the works 100s of years before the prophet pbuh spread the words about Islam.

Don't understand what this has to do with this thread.

A lot of people love to bend the truth to fit their purpose, if you gonna go into slavery then tell the whole truth. Tell that poor Arabs were trade for poor Africans and how losing army would become slaves to the victor?

Again, you're missing the point. I'm talking about certain people who will go to hell and high water to expose European atrocities and then neglect the fact that they follow a religion that was forced upon them by white Arabs who did (and continue to do) the exact same things the evil Europeans have done. If you follow your religion, and don't care about what Arabs do or if Muhammad is white, this isn't for you. The fact is, that a few black and Indian posters here experience some heavy cognitive dissonance on the matter. The identify Islam as Arabs. They see defending Arabs as defending Islam. It's one and the same to them. It's because Islam and Arab culture are intertwined severely. They see as if they have to protect and cover up what Arabs do. If that isn't you, good for you.

Arabs enslaved us, but is that gonna stop me from submitting to Allah? Should it stop me?

Of course not. People have been enslaving one another and forcing beliefs upon one another since the dawn of man. It's as natural as breathing. My issue is with people that clearly are lying to protect their religion and religion's history, including the skin color of their prophet and their prophet's behavior. If Allah decrees that all people are equal, then take issue with those, including your prophet, who chose to enslave others. That is not my problem.

Someone can't be equal to you if they are your slave, no matter how noble you treat them.

The origins are Arabic but that doesnt mean its has something to do with the slave trade, hell if its origins where African it would be better cause the had slaves back them too.

Don't understand the point you are trying to make here. Can you please rephrase it ?