Black Muslims: This don't plauge yo mind?

[theworldismine13]

what gives you that idea?

cuz i dont get what islam being "pro-everyone" is suppose to mean in terms of history and constitutional rights, my guess is you are trying to make me feel good about this pedophilic religion that you follow

like TUh said if you dont have problem with islam's history of enslavement and racism and that islam is "pro-everyone", then thats fine, its a free country, this isnt really about you, its about people suggesting that islam is pro black

 

[Type Username Here]

From a theological standpoint though:

If I was Prophet TUH, and Gabriel came down to me with the word of God, and God said that all people are equal in his/her/its eyes, I might have reconsidered owning slaves and marrying 10 different women.

This leads to two scenarios:

A- Either Muhammad defied God's direct wish

or, the most likely scenario:

B- He or a group of people made it all up.

I'm going to go with B.

Just my opinion friends.

 

[Just like bruddas]

cuz i dont get what islam being "pro-everyone" is suppose to mean in terms of history and constitutional rights, my guess is you are trying to make me feel good about this pedophilic religion that you follow

like TUh said if you dont have problem with islam's history of enslavement and racism and that islam is "pro-everyone", then thats fine, its a free country, this isnt really about you, its about people suggesting that islam is pro black

its simple to understand i dont see why youre having such a hard time understanding, Islam isnt pro black or pro arab its pro everyone. I dont have a problem with Islam history of enslavement cause everyone is a slave in the eyes of God, now I do have a problem with the arab enslavement of people.

It has nothing to do with the constitutional right cause no one is making or telling you to convert. Im stating this for everyone including my fellow Muslims that isnt just pro for one race. Not one time have I disrespected you in this thread and yet you call my faith pedopilic

What have I done to earn that type of insult?

 

[Just like bruddas]

From a theological standpoint though:

If I was Prophet TUH, and Gabriel came down to me with the word of God, and God said that all people are equal in his/her/its eyes, I might have reconsidered owning slaves and marrying 10 different women.

This leads to two scenarios:

A- Either Muhammad defied God's direct wish

or, the most likely scenario:

B- He or a group of people made it all up.

I'm going to go with B.

Just my opinion friends.

I laughed but its your opinion

 

[Just like bruddas]

Don't understand what this has to do with this thread.



Again, you're missing the point. I'm talking about certain people who will go to hell and high water to expose European atrocities and then neglect the fact that they follow a religion that was forced upon them by white Arabs who did (and continue to do) the exact same things the evil Europeans have done. If you follow your religion, and don't care about what Arabs do or if Muhammad is white, this isn't for you. The fact is, that a few black and Indian posters here experience some heavy cognitive dissonance on the matter. The identify Islam is Arabs. They see as if they have to protect and cover up what Arabs do. If that isn't you, good for you.



Of course not. People have been enslaving one another and forcing beliefs upon one another since the dawn of man. It's as natural as breathing. My issue is with people that clearly are lying to protect their religion and religion's history, including the skin color of their prophet and their prophet's behavior. If Allah decrees that all people are equal, then take issue with those, including your prophet, who chose to enslave others. That is not my problem.

Someone can't be equal to you if they are your slave, no matter how noble you treat them.



Don't understand the point you are trying to make here. Can you please rephrase it ?

One min yall are saying the arabs dont want us blacks to be Muslims and the next min yall saying it was forced on us. For the record slaves were still free to practice their own religion. Slaves werent even Muslim and the prophet pbuh give bilal the chance to so by freeing him in which he chose to summit to God remember slaves couldnt be Muslims.

But youre right I did miss your point, I didnt have my glasses and missed the "not" my apologizes, im a big enough man to admit a mistake

 

[Type Username Here]

I laughed but its your opinion

Yes, it is my opinion.

If some reason I owned slaves and god sent an angel down to tell me that all people are equal, I wouldn't go on continuing to own slaves and having 10 different wives.

That's just me though. You might find it prudent to defy god's wish.

The truth is Islam is about 10% the Qu'Ran and Deism, and 90% Arab Culture and Worship of Muhammad (emulating his life).

 

[theworldismine13]

its simple to understand i dont see why youre having such a hard time understanding, Islam isnt pro black or pro arab its pro everyone. I dont have a problem with Islam history of enslavement cause everyone is a slave in the eyes of God, now I do have a problem with the arab enslavement of people.

It has nothing to do with the constitutional right cause no one is making or telling you to convert. Im stating this for everyone including my fellow Muslims that isnt just pro for one race. Not one time have I disrespected you in this thread and yet you call my faith pedopilic

What have I done to earn that type of insult?

again if you think islam is pro everyone and dont have a problem with the history of enslavement and it isnt pro black then this argument isnt about you

i think you have the right to your religious views, now that you have taken the time to share your religious views im simply sharing my views that islam is a garbage ass religion, its racist and pedophilic

apparently we have differing views, but this is a free country so its all good

i brought up the constitution because you said dont have any hate for my views, im just clarifying that its not through your graciousness that i can hold my views, its the constitution that allows me to hold my views

and the notion that islam is pro-everyone is meaningless too me, or to the argument in the thread, unless you are agreeing that islam is not pro black, if that is what you are saying then thanks for supporting this side of the argument

or are you saying that other religions are not pro-everyone?

 

[Just like bruddas]

Yes, it is my opinion.

If some reason I owned slaves and god sent an angel down to tell me that all people are equal, I wouldn't go on continuing to own slaves and having 10 different wives.

That's just me though. You might find it prudent to defy god's wish.

The truth is Islam is about 10% the Qu'Ran and Deism, and 90% Arab Culture and Worship of Muhammad (emulating his life).

Im still reading and what I have read so far is way more then 10% lol, but once im done reading I will give my full honest thought about it

One thing I will say though that some Muslims seems to get the arab culture mixed up with Islam.

 

[Type Username Here]

Im still reading and what I have read so far is way more then 10% lol, but once im done reading I will give my full honest thought about it

One thing I will say though that some Muslims seems to get the arab culture mixed up with Islam.

Yes, they do. There are Muslims out there, a few, that go hard on the Deism aspect of their religion, and push all the human elements aside. I tend to take them more serious in their line of arguments.

If your purpose is to submit to God, and you understand all men are equal in your God's eyes, then human prophets, Muhammad's life, and/or Arab culture should have absolutely zero impact on your personal relationship with a deity.

Mark my words, the reformation of Islam will be the abandonment of this human element (i.e., following/worshiping Muhammad and Arab Culture) to a more Deism-like form. Time will tell.

 

[NZA]

*would you ever practice an arab or european religon?
black guy: i lub me some (insert jesus or allah here)

*would you ever practice a west african religion?
white and arab guy:

im just wondering when you slow people will start waking up to this one sided foolishness...

 

[newarkhiphop]

Indian Ocean: East African slaves taken aboard the Dutch HMS Daphne from a Arab dhow, November 1868

These photographs dated 1868 reveals a very little of the terrible suffering caused to millions of people by the slave trade. This group of severely emaciated boys and young men on the lower deck of a Royal Naval ship apparently have been taken from what was a slave vessel trading illegally off the African coast headed to the Americas. The captain of the Royal Naval ship had instructions not to return the rescued slaves to the place on the coast where they had been put on the slave ship (presumably because they were in danger of being recaptured by traders) but it is not clear from the available documentation what happened to them afterwards.


Public Domain Photographs

Date: 1868

Origin of Photos: The National Archives, United Kingdom

 

[Type Username Here]

Indian Ocean: East African slaves taken aboard the Dutch HMS Daphne from a Arab dhow, November 1868

What does that mean friend? I don't understand.

 

[newarkhiphop]

What does that mean friend? I don't understand.

nothing just doing some research on that pic of the arab slave masters with the ship and came across this pics which i had never seen before, i wonder why some many little boys though, no adults weirdly

 

[Type Username Here]

nothing just doing some research on that pic of the arab slave masters with the ship and came across this pics which i had never seen before, i wonder why some many little boys though, no adults weirdly

Yea, it does seem weird the amount of children.

I traced the picture and am reading some of the shyt now. A lot of things I hadn't heard of before.

The Indian Ocean Slave trade evolved around the Indian Ocean basin. Slaves were taken from mainland East Africa and sold in markets in the Arabian Peninsula and the Persian Gulf. In contrast to the trans-Atlantic Slave Trade, the Indian Ocean Slave Trade was much older dating back from at least the second century C.E. until the early twentieth century. For example, the oldest written document from the East Africa Coast, the Periplus of the Erythraean Sea, describes a small trade in slaves around the second century C.E.

I was under the impression that the Slave Trade on both coasts of Africa began at around the same time. Where there any African Slaves shipped to Indian/East Asia? It says Indian Ocean.

 

[newarkhiphop]

Tippu Tip - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Colonial official with arab dignitaries , on the right is Hamad bin Muḥammad bin Jumah bin Rajab bin Muḥammad (the most renowned Arab slave and ivory trader, died in 1905), in Zanzibar, Tanzania…