Black Mothers and Effeminate Black Sons

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I feel you. I think as fun as it is to discuss the extremes in either direction, most people tend to fall in the grey area in-between.

i would say i lean more towards being the macho stereotype if the other end of that spectrum is being gay tho :whoa:
 

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there are no ex gay people. those people are living a lie.

there's "ex-bisexual" girls who made out with other girls when they were teens, but actual gay people suddenly becoming straight is bullshyt.
Donnie McLurkin is a very famous ex gay man

And when this is pointed out excuses are then made and those like you attempt to rationalize the reasons, well they really weren't gay or society pressured them to change whatever.

It's ex gay people cause the shyt is a choice, you can choose to participate in sex that way, you can choose not to. There is no such thing as a "gay gene" only psychological misunderstandings on a unnatural act.
 

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Stop mating with birds. Stop abandoning the seeds you make. It seems very simple. However everybody (women included) would rather just fukk and deal with or not deal with the consequences later so maybe it's isn't so simple. :snoop:
Let's be honest most of the women knew the men won't be shyt anyway but they still slept with them
 

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I don't know if it is true, but I'll ask.

Is it true that 78% of black children from 1960 to present are raised by a single mother? If this is the case, (which I have a hard time believing) then wouldn't that explain why so many are downlow, and men who easily go gay in jail? Why there are so many black women today searching for a black man to marry? I'm not talking about the women who are ratchet, over weight/ugly, bad attitude, government assistance queens, strippers, and hoes. The black women who went to school and now have their careers and can't find a "good man" like they continue to say.

Yo I don't know anymore. I was raised by my dad instead of my mom. Though, I don't have the hatred towards black women and I don't c00n for white flesh. My mom is still in my life, but yes they divorced before I even hit kindergarden, yet I'm 100% straight.
 

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Okay, so if you're concerned about Black single mothers raising their sons to be effeminate... BE A FATHER TO YOUR SON. lol

That is, the type of father that actually lives with his children, and is vested and participates in the daily nurture, guidance, and support of their kid(s).

Y'all over there bitter that you're expected to support your children financially, and only swing by to see your kid "when you have the time" - if that- and yet mad that your son isn't manly enough.

It's utterly senseless.

Use your brain for a change.

Stop sleeping with women you don't actually like, then running scared when you have a child.

I personally don't think the nuclear family is a more legitimate familial structure than any other, and I do think we need to rethink these heteropatriachal discourses on gender,

but if you do not, and you believe in men's roles and women's role, it would stand to reason that you'd....FULFILL A MAN'S ROLE AN BE A REAL FATHER/HUSBAND/GROWN MAN.

lol


And if you're not willing to do that, shut up so your gay son can get his life. YAAAASSSSS.
 

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i would say i lean more towards being the macho stereotype if the other end of that spectrum is being gay tho :whoa:

LOL. You ain't got to qualify yourself man. I knew what you meant.

I just meant if one end makes me a SIMP and the other a PIMP, I'm pretty much right down the middle. I'm a regular well-balanced human being, not a message board militant.
 

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15 pages easy. Women need to have their sons around positive male role models. When we got adopted my mom still made sure I kept in touch with Eddie Long and I always spent summers out there and was apart of the church. Had some great black men around me who showed me what to do and what not to do. If your son doesn't have a father then make sure he has a sports coach, a big brother or an uncle he can look up to.

Did no one else catch this? :mjlol:
 

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I don't know if it is true, but I'll ask.

Is it true that 78% of black children from 1960 to present are raised by a single mother? If this is the case, (which I have a hard time believing) then wouldn't that explain why so many are downlow, and men who easily go gay in jail? Why there are so many black women today searching for a black man to marry? I'm not talking about the women who are ratchet, over weight/ugly, bad attitude, government assistance queens, strippers, and hoes. The black women who went to school and now have their careers and can't find a "good man" like they continue to say.

Yo I don't know anymore. I was raised by my dad instead of my mom. Though, I don't have the hatred towards black women and I don't c00n for white flesh. My mom is still in my life, but yes they divorced before I even hit kindergarden, yet I'm 100% straight.
There are so many good black men out there.

these women want tupac in a suit.
They should consider the black man doing minimum wage at Mcdonalds.
He may not make much but he can provide them with love.
 

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Donnie McLurkin is a very famous ex gay man

And when this is pointed out excuses are then made and those like you attempt to rationalize the reasons, well they really weren't gay or society pressured them to change whatever.

It's ex gay people cause the shyt is a choice, you can choose to participate in sex that way, you can choose not to. There is no such thing as a "gay gene" only psychological misunderstandings on a unnatural act.

theres a scale i believe. you can be super duper, 8 dikks a day gay or u can be mostly macho but enjoy a post-op tranny here and there. its not as cut and dry as u put it. some dudes might just be bi-curious and get sucked into(pause) a life of gay debauchery and then change their minds and stop doing it.
 

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Interesting point but i see a flaw in it. Follow me for a sec:

Okay.. let's reverse that question: What about those that led heterosexual lives early on and then became gay later in life? These are technically ex-straight people. Now let's apply it to your logic and analyze it.
You are not on point with my logic

The poster I responded to said people are born that way. My logic is what the hell determines that because scientifically that can't be determined. That's a opinion.

Those who led straight lives then turned gay are still within my logic, they chose to do same sex still making it a choice they made and not them out the gate saying I'm gay.
 

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Not at all, I'm just saying in comparison to what a lot of nikkas on here say (granted, a lot of it is just fukkery, trolling and race/gender-baiting) I'm not as "real" or "manly" or "Hard on Hoes" as I "should" be.

I hope that makes sense.

:yeshrug:

EDIT: And I would attribute that to being raised by a single mother. I'm basically tryna say, it ain't all bad. It's not always an extreme one way or another, but I forgot where I was for a second. This isn't exactly the place for biased and adult convo (for the most part) :russ:
You dont need to be "hard on hoes" to be a manly man, doggy. That's the confusion that i mainly find in Americans. To them you'r enot a man until you are loud and break something or beat somebody. THat's that anglo-saxon in y'all blood.

How? If the woman is doing her part but the man isn't how is it both faults? A man should want to take care of his child no matter how the baby mom acts. So what am I missing?

The same goes the opposite way. If the woman isn't doing the job then the same can be said. Both are not at fault. Only the person not doing their job. As an adult you should take care of responsibilities.
Darling dont deny that many men get defeated by these women who use the child as a weapon against themto the point where they say "fukk it". Sure these cases arent the majority but they are still there. Personally i wouldnt want to have children with a woman that im not gonna marry for that specific reason.
 

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So what am I missing?

accountability for the type of men you choose to lay up with.

sleep with dudes with no education, career, or ambition. (or men that generally didn't even like you, just wanted a nut) then bytch and whine when they don't change for you. y'all dont even have the common sense to place sanctions on the p*ssy to motivate these dudes to change. you reward their negative behavior then complain about them to us like WE'RE the enablers.
 

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There are so many good black men out there.

these women want tupac in a suit.
They should consider the black man doing minimum wage at Mcdonalds.
He may not make much but he can provide them with love.

No respectable man would settle for a Mcdonalds career, but I understand if a nikka has to work there until something better comes by. That means they have to work towards that aint no cac gonna come by and hand you a job nikka. As a black male, I would never stay in a Mc Donalds job for life. GTFO here with the waiting for a woman to save me type of bullshyt.
 
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I have a question for you, brethren:

Being that you have Caribbean roots and you know that single black mothers raising black sons alone isnt an "only in America" problem. How is it that this issue is so prevalent in America? Or at least perceived as such? Because from what I KNOW many black mothers all over the world are raising sons with no fathers around.
I missed this but great questions and its something I often wondered about which is the differences in American family culture vs the Caribbean. Single mothers exist world wide but I think 72% of black children in the US are born to single women. My folks still married and I asked what was their secret for longevity. My pops was a reformed dog but my mom said she "she saw but did not see and she heard but did not hear" those were her words. Moms knew her place and the fact that most Caribbean countries are masculine I take that to be the main reason we are different than American blacks. American blacks do not have a culture, the backbone of their families are women. This is a whole other thread we can spin but if I were to put a finger on the main reason this problem is prevalent in America would be the fact that black america is bytch made.
 
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