Black men, this is what society looks like as a Black Matriarchy

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When did i make that claim i forgot:mjlol:?
You have a very selective memory but that jordan smiley won't stop you from getting this work

I'll keep you right on track, don't worry

So black women pass laws softly?:mjlol:
Nope, white men pass laws that favor impoverished black women over impoverished black men

You're being obtuse but thank you for proving my point. You can't find a single modern law that favors black makes over black females.

I encourage you to try though

You made the pseudo-intellectual sarcastic remark about black women passing laws when you know that it's white men that pass laws and THEY decide who said laws benefit

Then I asked you to produce any law that benefits black males over black females as that would support your case that the black community is not a matriarchy

Not only were you unable to do so, you didn't even try, and you've been deflecting ever since then

So again, whenever you wanna try and support your stance with evidence(as I already have) feel free to @ me
 

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You have a very selective memory but that jordan smiley won't stop you from getting this work

I'll keep you right on track, don't worry




You made the pseudo-intellectual sarcastic remark about black women passing laws when you know that it's white men that pass laws and THEY decide who said laws benefit

Then I asked you to produce any law that benefits black males over black females as that would support your case that the black community is not a matriarchy

Not only were you unable to do so, you didn't even try, and you've been deflecting ever since then

So again, whenever you wanna try and support your stance with evidence(as I already have) feel free to @ me
I been said the black community was a patriarchy as in white men run the community. Are you trying to say that black women have more power than white men?:mjpls:
 

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I been said the black community was a patriarchy as in white men run the community. Are you trying to say that black women have more power than white men?:mjpls:
Incorrect, western society is a patriarchy

The black community within western society is a matriarchy, which is why black men in western society do not benefit from the white male patriarchy, yet through certain social service and family laws, black women can benefit a lot from said patriarchal matriarchy

Once again, the fact that black women have more legislative power than black men within the black community SPECIFICALLY is what makes said community matriarchal

This was another deflection though smh
 

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Incorrect, western society is a patriarchy

The black community within western society is a matriarchy, which is why black men in western society do not benefit from the white male patriarchy, yet through certain social service and family laws, black women can benefit a lot from said patriarchal matriarchy

Once again, the fact that black women have more legislative power than black men within the black community SPECIFICALLY is what makes said community matriarchal

This was another deflection though smh
No they don't lol you don't even know what legislative is dumb nikka:russ:. BLACK WOMEN DON'T MAKE LAWS. I keep asking for examples but i have yet to see one. And the black community is in western society you fukking idiot so how can their be a matriarchy inside a patriarchy :mjlol:. MGTOW nikkas is lost:yeshrug:
 

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There are 2 reasons why this whole line of logic is terrible.

1) In the first place, one would have to believe that the majority of Black women were on government assistance to go with this extremely transparent and white supremacist fueled narrative that Black women are domineering welfare queens who kicked Black men out the house and created a matriarchy. Hint: the majority of Black women are not on government assistance, never have been, and never will be. In fact, in total, there are less than 5 million people on housing assistance. That's across all races, of which whites actually make up the highest percentage of recipients. So you'd first have to explain how a matriarchy is created by situations happening in less than 20% of the community you're talking about. And I'm being generous with the 20 because its probably more like 10.

2) You'd next have to be able to say with a straight face that Black mothers choosing to leave the home wholesale and abandon their children, leaving Black fathers to support themselves and their children alone, would be a patriarchy. Because that is what you're saying in the reverse. That Black men being absent and leaving Black women and children in a substantial amount of poverty somehow empowers Black women since they're the only ones left to provide and make decisions. Reasonable people without agendas know that both sides must be present and one has all of the authority/power over the other for a patriarchy/matriarchy to exist. One side just completely opting out and contributing nothing substantial does not a patriarchy/matriarchy make.

Just say you want to scapegoat Black women for problems of the community and pretend we have more power than we do and go. Stop all the psuedo intellectual and inaccurate information because you just end up taking on white supremacist talking points.
 

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You're the one arguing with emotions and projecting that on everybody else.


Systemic means system.

In order to have systemic power, you have to have the power to change/direct/influence the system.

You can benefit from someone else's systemic power, but that doesn't mean you have the power yourself.

And again there is no favarable treatment in the courtroom based of gender. That's a myth that doesn't hold up to the actual laws or the results from those laws.

You guys think women dont have influence in government because men are in power? as if officials dont break they necks to please women voters,they will try to appease women if that helps them maintain their seat in power. Do yall think because the pastor is a man,he doesnt look around his church and see's who is the majority filling up the collection plate every sunday:ohlawd:.....Do yall think the media and entertainment industry dont realize women are a major driving force as consumers?Why wouldn't they give power to the women of our community in order to shyt on us?DO yall really think it would be a case of cutting off your nose to spite your face?as if black men and white men share the same face lol. Some of you are really asking "Why would white men in power,put laws in place that would come back to bite them:jbhmm:?"....Because if you haven't noticed,rules that apply to black males dont neccesarily apply to white males.


Besides,the family is a system,and women have the most influence over their kids when the fathers are in jail.

and when that cycle finds the younger generations of men in prison due to the fact they were raised by women,and are very emotional,it all ties into the same system:francis:

But at what point will black men in the community who are men,call out the ones who display feminine behavior and lack a conscience?Call out and check women who display unlady like behavior and lack morals and values. Real men don't care about being outnumbered,and will hold other brothers accountable. Until then,even the so called men are following women,and the bytches trapped in male bodies:martin:
 

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That's exactly what welfare laws dictate...

How many black males have access to welfare or really any social service programs? Serious question

When I worked there I saw black families with two parents, single elderly men, and young black guys who had become the head of household after the death of their mom/grandma. They cannot ban you from applying for assistance if you're a man and black.
Edit: there are additional programs of course that cater to women/children but I'm speaking on what I saw working with housing.
 
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@PartyHeart why are black men just leaving homes?

I don't think it can be generalized to just one thing. Poverty is certainly one of the biggest drivers. No adequate jobs or resources can lead to riskier behavior to make money. That feeds into the prison industrial complex which is also a big thing that keeps Black men away. Even when they return home, finding jobs will be hard and the cycle will continue. After a generation or so of seeing this, the cycle can almost start repeating itself unprovoked.

But I think overall the thing that ultimately gets the ball rolling is the psychological affects living in poverty has on Black men. Being unable to gather adequate resources to provide for your family in a patriarchy, where provision for women and children is the primary role of the man, makes them lean heavily on other things that can be viewed as masculine to fill that void. Those behaviors are often destructive.
 

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I don't think it can be generalized to just one thing. Poverty is certainly one of the biggest drivers. No adequate jobs or resources can lead to riskier behavior to make money. That feeds into the prison industrial complex which is also a big thing that keeps Black men away. Even when they return home, finding jobs will be hard and the cycle will continue. After a generation or so of seeing this, the cycle can almost start repeating itself unprovoked.

But I think overall the thing that ultimately gets the ball rolling is the psychological affects living in poverty has on Black men. Being unable to gather adequate resources to provide for your family in a patriarchy, where provision for women and children is the primary role of the man, makes them lean heavily on other things that can be viewed as masculine to fill that void. Those behaviors are often destructive.
Have you ever read any books on masculinsm? Or books like The Hagakure? I'd argue from the books I've read that a lot of that destructive behavior isn't traditionally masculine at all, not by accounts of stoic masculinists anyway. I would agree that the type of patriarchy we live in is constructed in the way it is due to white socities fear of black males natural bological masculinity.(Higher testosterone levels) And in ability to compete if all things were equal (with either our men or women)
 
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