Black men, this is what society looks like as a Black Matriarchy

[Mindfield333]

The black community was never a Matriarchy

there definitely were some African countries that were

 

[PartyHeart]

Have you ever read any books on masculinsm? Or books like The Hagakure? I'd argue from the books I've read that a lot of that destructive behavior isn't traditionally masculine at all, not by accounts of stoic masculinists anyway. I would agree that the type of patriarchy we live in is constructed in the way it is due to white socities fear of black males natural bological masculinity.(Higher testosterone levels) And in ability to compete if all things were equal (with either our men or women)

I've actually never read that. I just looked it up though, seems like an interesting read. I might have to add it to my list. Why would this be held as a book on masculinsm though?

I don't mean to say that destructive behavior is naturally masculine at all. I'm saying that patriarchal white society says having a lot of resources & providing for your women and children = the male gender role. Would you agree with that? If so, I'm saying that it follows that the white power structure preventing black men from achieving the pinnacle of their gender role messes with them psychologically and causes them to try to achieve that role in other ways. Would you agree with that? If so, I'm saying that those ways are perverted still by the white patriarchal structure's view of the male gender role, and acting them out especially within the restraints of poverty and systematic oppression ends up being destructive. Its not something I am calling natural or biological.

In the same way, white supremacy attempts to take away Black women's femininity. The female gender role is that women are to be soft, nurturing and provided for. Painting black women as hard, undesirable and unworthy of provision messes with black women psychologically as well.

I also don't agree with your comment about testosterone. Don't really want to get deep into it but black women have more testosterone than other women as well.

 

[Neuromancer]

I've actually never read that. I just looked it up though, seems like an interesting read. I might have to add it to my list. Why would this be held as a book on masculinsm though?

I don't mean to say that destructive behavior is naturally masculine at all. I'm saying that patriarchal white society says having a lot of resources & providing for your women and children = the male gender role. Would you agree with that? If so, I'm saying that it follows that the white power structure preventing black men from achieving the pinnacle of their gender role messes with them psychologically and causes them to try to achieve that role in other ways. Would you agree with that? If so, I'm saying that those ways are perverted still by the white patriarchal structure's view of the male gender role, and acting them out especially within the restraints of poverty and systematic oppression ends up being destructive. Its not something I am calling natural or biological.

In the same way, white supremacy attempts to take away Black women's femininity. The female gender role is that women are to be soft, nurturing and provided for. Painting black women as hard, undesirable and unworthy of provision messes with black women psychologically as well.

I also don't agree with your comment about testosterone. Don't really want to get deep into it but black women have more testosterone than other women as well.

When you read the Hagakure it will be very clearly a masculinist piece. Really all about man hood and masculine spirit framed in bushido lessons. I would agree with you mostly.
So you don't think that there is an ativastic fear of biological superiority? I feel humans are animals like all others. Animals typically destroy competition or submit to it. I don't think the testosterone in black women makes them any less feminine.

What would be your solution to the issues yoi've stated?

 

[xCivicx]

No they don't lol you don't even know what legislative is dumb nikka. BLACK WOMEN DON'T MAKE LAWS. I keep asking for examples but i have yet to see one. And the black community is in western society you fukking idiot so how can their be a matriarchy inside a patriarchy . MGTOW nikkas is lost

Jesus christ you're simple

Black women don't have to WRITE laws to BENEFIT FROM LEGISLATION MORE THAN BLACK MEN DO. I never said black women write laws. In fact I said the OPPOSITE. But you keep DEFLECTING back to that STRAWMAN because I'm sonning you and you have no response

Idk why you would embarrass yourself by speaking on the term "legislation" when you clearly don't know what it even means smfh

But ok lemme just son you some more:

White supremacy is a worldwide system. It exists on ALL continents

Yet in India and Africa, THERE ARE STILL BROWN AND BLACK MALE PATRIARCHIES, which is evident by the fact that polygamy is a normal practice in those areas AND men can 'punish' their wives without any legal repercussions

What black male patriarchal standards exist in the western black communities?? Don't worry I'll wait for your response even though you won't have one

 

[xCivicx]

When I worked there I saw black families with two parents, single elderly men, and young black guys who had become the head of household after the death of their mom/grandma. They cannot ban you from applying for assistance if you're a man and black.
Edit: there are additional programs of course that cater to women/children but I'm speaking on what I saw working with housing.

I've literally never seen a single social service program that directly targets black men and offers them support

Can you name any specific examples of any?

But then again you proved my point. AFTER a female dies, a male can still receive HER social service benefits, which is not the same as a black male by himself qualifying for social service programs

 

[MajorVitaman]

White men own the infrastructure. The society is a eurocentric patriarchy. Our sub culture within eurocentric patriarchy is a government subsidized psuedo-matriarchy. White men still own, control & benefit most from this system. Black feminists are pawns.

Nobody in power is afraid of a black matriarch. Nobody in power deems black feminists a threat.

 

[imp7]

I've literally never seen a single social service program that directly targets black men and offers them support

Can you name any specific examples of any?

But then again you proved my point. AFTER a female dies, a male can still receive HER social service benefits, which is not the same as a black male by himself qualifying for social service programs

I said that there were single males that were on the program even if they were old.
There are no federal programs specifically for black males I can name off the top of my head but I've come across some regular ones in my community an example is 100 Black Men.
A black man *can* qualify for housing assistance himself. It will be harder for *any* single person with no kids/no disabilities/non elderly to qualify generally because the income limit will be higher. Most young males that become head of household either wouldn't have bothered to apply. They inherited the voucher because they were the only person in the household who was at least 18.

 

[SmokyQuartz]

Jesus christ you're simple

Black women don't have to WRITE laws to BENEFIT FROM LEGISLATION MORE THAN BLACK MEN DO. I never said black women write laws. In fact I said the OPPOSITE. But you keep DEFLECTING back to that STRAWMAN because I'm sonning you and you have no response

Idk why you would embarrass yourself by speaking on the term "legislation" when you clearly don't know what it even means smfh

But ok lemme just son you some more:

White supremacy is a worldwide system. It exists on ALL continents

Yet in India and Africa, THERE ARE STILL BROWN AND BLACK MALE PATRIARCHIES, which is evident by the fact that polygamy is a normal practice in those areas AND men can 'punish' their wives without any legal repercussions

What black male patriarchal standards exist in the western black communities?? Don't worry I'll wait for your response even though you won't have one

I just said that black patriarchy doesn't exist many times we live in WHITE PATRIARCHY and i'm speaking . And yes when you say legislative powers that means the ability to write laws and put them into place. the definition of legislative
I knew you didn't know what it meant. Oh yea you can believe they benefit from laws all you want to but that still don't mean it's a matriarchy because black women didn't put it in place. You nikkas talking bout it's a "soft" matriarchy shyt is not even a word. I think what you guys are trying to say is that the fact that black men can't control black women so it must means that black women must be the ones running shyt. Its that self loathing MGTOW shyt i laugh at because i know what this is really about.

 

[xCivicx]

I just said that black patriarchy doesn't exist many times we live in WHITE PATRIARCHY and i'm speaking . And yes when you say legislative powers that means the ability to write laws and put them into place. the definition of legislative
I knew you didn't know what it meant. Oh yea you can believe they benefit from laws all you want to but that still don't mean it's a matriarchy because black women didn't put it in place. You nikkas talking bout it's a "soft" matriarchy shyt is not even a word. I think what you guys are trying to say is that the fact that black men can't control black women so it must means that black women must be the ones running shyt. Its that self loathing MGTOW shyt i laugh at because i know what this is really about.

Ok simpleton watch me son you again

These are the definitions from your link

1.
having the function of making laws:
a legislative body.
2.
of or relating to the enactment of laws:
legislative proceedings; legislative power.

3.
pertaining to a legislature :
a legislative recess.

4.
enacted or ordained by legislation or a legislature :
legislative ruling; legislative remedy.

Notice how only 1 definition out of the 4 has anything to do with the physical act of making laws

"Soft matriarchy" isn't a word. It's a 2 word term smh

Why do you keep deflecting to this mgtow shyt? Why do you keep bringing this up instead of arguing your points? Why haven't you produced any kind of evidence or facts to try and support whatever it is you're saying? Why are all your posts strawmen?

This is my last post to you unless your next post is actually on topic and responding to the facts in my posts

 

[xCivicx]

I said that there were single males that were on the program even if they were old.
There are no federal programs specifically for black males I can name off the top of my head but I've come across some regular ones in my community an example is 100 Black Men.
A black man *can* qualify for housing assistance himself. It will be harder for *any* single person with no kids/no disabilities/non elderly to qualify generally because the income limit will be higher. Most young males that become head of household either wouldn't have bothered to apply. They inherited the voucher because they were the only person in the household who was at least 18.

I know young black 20 something females that are in college who are also getting food stamps and other forms of welfare

I've literally never seen a black male successfully achieve those types of benefits

 

[SmokyQuartz]

Ok simpleton watch me son you again

These are the definitions from your link

1.
having the function of making laws:
a legislative body.
2.
of or relating to the enactment of laws:
legislative proceedings; legislative power.

3.
pertaining to a legislature :
a legislative recess.

4.
enacted or ordained by legislation or a legislature :
legislative ruling; legislative remedy.

Notice how only 1 definition out of the 4 has anything to do with the physical act of making laws

"Soft matriarchy" isn't a word. It's a 2 word term smh

Why do you keep deflecting to this mgtow shyt? Why do you keep bringing this up instead of arguing your points? Why haven't you produced any kind of evidence or facts to try and support whatever it is you're saying? Why are all your posts strawmen?

This is my last post to you unless your next post is actually on topic and responding to the facts in my posts

YOU ARE A fukkING IDIOT LMAO!!!!!
2.
of or relating to the enactment of laws:
legislative proceedings; legislative power.
enactment | Definition of enactment in English by Oxford Dictionaries
3.
pertaining to a legislature :
a legislative recess
Recess Law and Legal Definition | USLegal, Inc.
Legislative session - Wikipedia
4.
enacted or ordained by legislation or a legislature :
legislative ruling; legislative remedy.
ordain

I think you should stop responding too

 

[imp7]

I know young black 20 something females that are in college who are also getting food stamps and other forms of welfare

I've literally never seen a black male successfully achieve those types of benefits

I bet money that they got those benefits fraudulently. Most "normal" college students (college-aged without kids) do not qualify for food stamps or section 8 period. For section 8 if you were a college student under aged 24, with no kids, unmarried and not a vet then you couldn't even apply iirc.
And due to stereotypes women being on the program doesn't look so out of the ordinary so it's easier to conceal fraud.

 

[xCivicx]

YOU ARE A fukkING IDIOT LMAO!!!!!
2.
of or relating to the enactment of laws:
legislative proceedings; legislative power.
enactment | Definition of enactment in English by Oxford Dictionaries
3.
pertaining to a legislature :
a legislative recess
Recess Law and Legal Definition | USLegal, Inc.
Legislative session - Wikipedia
4.
enacted or ordained by legislation or a legislature :
legislative ruling; legislative remedy.
ordain

I think you should stop responding too

"of OR RELATING TO" simpleton

"PERTAINING TO" simpleton

"ORDAINED BY LEGISLATION" simpleton

This is you attempting to argue semantics to change the subject. You already lost a long time ago. All of my responses to you on this page have been charity simpleton

Last response to you since you can't stay on topic

 

[SmokyQuartz]

"of OR RELATING TO" simpleton

"PERTAINING TO" simpleton

"ORDAINED BY LEGISLATION" simpleton

This is you attempting to argue semantics to change the subject. You already lost a long time ago. All of my responses to you on this page have been charity simpleton

Last response to you since you can't stay on topic

I'm a "Simpleton" but you don't even know what legislative means .When you pertain/relate to legislation that's the same as belonging to the group that passes the legislation. Black women are not part of that group white men are. Ordian littlely means to enact laws which you have yet to give examples of black women passing laws around. You are digging a bigger grave for yourself and further proving my point you MGTOW drone

 

[Mountain]

I'm a "Simpleton" but you don't even know what legislative means .When you pertain/relate to legislation that's the same as belonging to the group that passes the legislation. Black women are not part of that group white men are. Ordian littlely means to enact laws which you have yet to give examples of black women passing laws around. You are digging a bigger grave for yourself and further proving my point you MGTOW drone

No its not.

relate
rɪˈleɪt/
verb
verb: relate; 3rd person present: relates; past tense: related; past participle: related; gerund or present participle: relating
1.
make or show a connection between.
"the study examines social change within the city and relates it to developments in the country as a whole"

Relating to legislation simply means youre connected to it in one way or another, it doesnt necessarily mean you belong to the group that passed it.