Black Men su!cides raising faster than any other racial group

[The Wolf Among You]

There's obviously annoying old school bullshyt about being manly

But there's also the element people don't bring up:

As a man, you don't really have that much luxury to be vulnerable, think about it:

You're whole biological value comes from you being strong and useful. Women, MO matter what bullshyt we throw at them, persevere because they have an inherent sense of self, and them failing at anything won't make them useless.

As a man, especially a black man?

A broke black man is worthless. A broke black woman is just.. broke. But she aint worthless.

A cowardly or shy black man is a disappointment. A cowardly or shy black woman... women don't need to be brave in the first place

Etc. And so on and so on.
I'm not saying you should be closed off, but it's easy to see why this issue of men having a bad time dealing with shyt started

You’re 100% right. There’s legitimate reason for men especially Black men to be guarded, and avoid vulnerability.
But it starts with us, if we can extend empathy to our fellow man, than I believe we can shift our culture. fukk what women have to say about it, when it comes to men’s issues that starts and ends with us.

 

[GreenGhxst]

Awareness of how fukked we are as a people will do it

Combine that with a lack of ambition and no sense of self or purpose

 

[⠝⠕⠏⠑]

Out of curiosity, what's your educational background. You're always providing amazing insight on these topics.

I’m sorry I didn’t see this. I’ll pm u.

 

[DEANBIGBROTHERALLMIGHTY18]

I’m sorry I didn’t see this. I’ll pm u.

Thanks

 

[Bossino]

I talk myself out of it at least once a week.

Less money, plenty of problems

I've said on here many times if not for my parents woulda been did it. Far too many moments in the day when I realized I don't enjoy, and don't really see the point. I get the purpose of what I'm doing the life I'm building on paper and logically it makes sense, but in person it feels like pushing against the wind. Music and marijuana really help me push through in those hollow in between moments. My last genuinely joyful moment is when Nas dropped Magic, I was just happy for hours.

Imagine something unexpected in your life happening and it's a positive. Getting unexpected Ws on a regular basis must be

I've always felt that people who don't like surprises, are just used to any unplanned/unexpected event being a negative either a setback, inconvenience, annoyance, or major alteration to quality of life for worse. Change is seemingly always for the worse, and without foresight, planning for said change its a super L as your caught with your pants down so to speak.

Really just venting and clear space in my head, don't mind me

 

[Bossino]

Ages 18 to 25 are especially cruel to black men, it’s the age range where men are figuring themselves out and trying to build themselves up, their value as men are at their lowest in this age group based on the idea that men must be financially stable and able to provide all these things they see on social media. If they don’t have it or don’t have the means it’s depressing and dehumanizing.

I went through this and took so many L’s in that age range and it’s hard to not just wanna give up sometimes but my advice to other dudes is to keep your head down and keep working at becoming a better man than you was yesterday. Baby steps lead to major steps, it’s a marathon not a sprint, don’t compare your life to no one else, it truly is the thief of joy.

Thanks for the affirmation. Imma get back to studying.

 

[Bossino]

Just speaking for us, I think a lot of us get too caught in the fantasy world we see on tv and online. Plenty of normal black women out here that want a normal black man. Online would lead you to believe that all black women want ballers.

It's seems harder and harder to find logically, one would think so but....

 

[KidJSoul]

You’re 100% right. There’s legitimate reason for men especially Black men to be guarded, and avoid vulnerability.
But it starts with us, if we can extend empathy to our fellow man, than I believe we can shift our culture. fukk what women have to say about it, when it comes to men’s issues that starts and ends with us.

Starts with parenting, for one

 

[Afro]

I've said on here many times if not for my parents woulda been did it. Far too many moments in the day when I realized I don't enjoy, and don't really see the point. I get the purpose of what I'm doing the life I'm building on paper and logically it makes sense, but in person it feels like pushing against the wind. Music and marijuana really help me push through in those hollow in between moments. My last genuinely joyful moment is when Nas dropped Magic, I was just happy for hours.

Imagine something unexpected in your life happening and it's a positive. Getting unexpected Ws on a regular basis must be

I've always felt that people who don't like surprises, are just used to any unplanned/unexpected event being a negative either a setback, inconvenience, annoyance, or major alteration to quality of life for worse. Change is seemingly always for the worse, and without foresight, planning for said change its a super L as your caught with your pants down so to speak.

Really just venting and clear space in my head, don't mind me

Nah man, you good.

You gotta let it out at some point. I'm happy to see that my post allowed you to do so

These are some inhuman days of struggle, human beings have created multiple hells to the point where folk would rather be dead

Can't pay my rent this month because of unexpected medical bills WATTBA

 

[$cam-U-Well_Jack$on]

shyt be rough.

 

[Micky Mikey]

A lot of what is sold to black men as cool is straight demonic, dysfunctional and soul-killing. Some examples.

Early childhood sexual abuse.

Spoiler

STOP hypersexualizing young blk boys. Stop giving them strippers and trying to make them the man of the house. Protect their innocence.

Hip-hop music/entertainment.

Spoiler

Hip hop as an art form has SO much potential. It’s one of the coolest forms of musical expression out of any other genre. But the industry has KILLED it. I remember seeing interviews from artists in the past where they mentioned that music executives would trash any music they made that was uplifting, motivational or real and promote only ignorant shyt. So we get legit talented artists told to push music with only soul killing themes and hearing that shyt over and over again…without counter narratives, can be depressing.

Social media, echo chambers, ect.-

Spoiler

Some of the gender manosphere shyt I’ve seen is straight nihilistic. Ya’ll think it is helpful but it leads to depression. Under the guise of “keeping it real”, the worst attributes of human nature are exaggerated and the positives are undermined. Without real authentic human interpersonal experiences to balance out the voices of depressed, disgruntled venting online, it’s easy to think that those online voices are the only things in life. Beyond the rachet shyt fed to us on Worldstar Hip Hop or Joe Rogan or Vlad TV or stupid Twitter hot takes, there’s an entire WORLD out there waiting for you. There are happy, positive, amazing people in it. Beautiful landscapes to explore. Road trips to take. So much to see and do. Log the fukk off and get out there and see for yourself. Life isn’t meant to be lived behind the computer screen.

Drug usage and alcohol.

Spoiler

I don’t finger wag at people about drugs because I love weed. I love the creativity I tap into when I’m high and how the world looks different. I use it to manage anxiety occasionally and to help me turn my brain off so I can sleep because I carry a very heavy cognitive load sometimes, to the point of insanity. But I do think too much of anything is harmful. And abusing drugs can make problems that are already there even worse. Instead of giving blk men tools to manage stress effectively, in absence of those strategies many are abusing drugs which makes depression worse. Weed and the internet can’t be a replacement for real counseling and mental health care.

Economy.

Spoiler

One part of why I say young black people need to work hard and carve out a space of their own instead of trying to stay at home too long into adulthood is because it LEADS to depression. Contrary to popular belief that blks are kicked out of the home while other races stay and stack money, in American, blk youth are actually the most likely to stay at home past the age of 21. Because we have some of the highest poverty rates. And instead of it leading to an increased likelihood of homeownership or increased wealth, it actually leads to decreases in attainment of those markers of adulthood. And it also contributes to sexlessness and depression. Moreover, many of the families blacks are living with are toxic as well. So they could benefit from striking out away from those dysfunctional dynamics.

Put all of that on TOP of systemic racism (I.e. job discrimination, self-hate, social conditioning, lies told about our community, incarceration rates) and it’s easy to see why.

Spoiler: Ambitious solutions

As an educator, I think the solutions start with improving and reforming public education. Young blk kids read at higher rates than their white peers during pre-school ages but by the time they are in the 3rd grade, they are years behind. The way black schools and programs have been completely gutted politically has had a nasty impact on young blk boys in particular who are incredibly impacted by the school to prison pipeline.

If we had strong black male teachers and leaders in schools, a better authentic curriculum that emphasized critical thinking, real life skills, social skills, and challenging content centered around African American culture, and REAL guidance for black students to help combat lies and myths about how to build black wealth and success so that they came out of high school with certifications, lucrative college and financial aid packages, or job training-just this educational variable alone could literally reverse these suicide rates and stop a lot of this shyt in its tracks. That’s why people literally migrate thousands of miles to give their children the opportunity to get a better education.

I have longitudinal data on children who had access to early childhood programs and their post life outcomes vs those who did not. The differences are astounding. Even if they grew up in the hood or in toxic family structures, access to quality educational services literally resulted in drastic statistically significant positive outcomes such as decreased rates of incarceration, increased income, increased rates of homeownership, ect.

But many of the programs are no longer in place because they were defunded. If you wanna stop black male suicide in its tracks…start where they spend 180 days a year, 5 days a week, 8 hours a day, for 12-14 developmental years. You want better workers? Better communicators? More highly trained workforce ready and motivated with good work ethic? More psychologically and mentally and socially adept young men? More well-rounded and cultured young men? Improve this sorry nation’s school system. So that we have a school-to-success pipeline, instead of a school-to-prison/depression/suicide pipeline.
Besides some of the fukkery Dr. Umar is on now…I honestly think his heart and mind was in the right place. After I defend this spring, I want to build a K-12 Black American school system designed specifically for underperforming blk students from low income communities. Regardless of socioeconomics, family structures, and barriers, schools could be transformative safe spaces for blacks, particularly our males if done right.

I know it’s gonna be an uphill battle but…I think it’s worth a try and it’s better than just pointing fingers at each other or ignoring the problem.

Edit: I have studies with the stats I discussed if anybody is interested.

I agree with everything here.

 

[semicko82]

A lot of folks don't care about black men until we die.

We're seen as problems for everyone else and the causes of our own problems.

And nobody wants to hear a man complain about anything, they just want you to work a back breaking job, fend for yourself and die.

Me and some other brehs been saying this on here for years, but get called crazy or an incel

 

[Bossino]

Nah man, you good.

You gotta let it out at some point. I'm happy to see that my post allowed you to do so

These are some inhuman days of struggle, human beings have created multiple hells to the point where folk would rather be dead

Can't pay my rent this month because of unexpected medical bills WATTBA

Warm wishes my guy I hope you find a way, it's all so draining man.

 

[NYC Rebel]

Men wont change until they hear shyt from other men. Period.

ive been challenging myself and the men around me for years on this. No amount of pointing the finger at women and what they are doing matters.

 

[Deep_Black_Conscious]

Too many selfish and proactively evil people out there who find joy in it with great results
People acting friendly using you as a means to an end
Too many men using other men for validation, trying to be one of the guys, when maybe they're better off alone
Emotionally intelligence is retard levels
Eventually a nikka needs a hug and appreciation to remind him he is a human being
I wonder how many of these men are married or are the main breadwinners and realize how little "real" love they are getting and are
being treated as a means to an end
We have things like GMB for a reason people make fun of the man for living his life including other men
There is a reason why men decide to just become more introverted what are they missing out on?
Everything is centered around getting p*ssy and school dynamics with other selfish men being competition and EAGER to fukk you over even your so called friends eventually you realize you're on your own and even a friend is an associate at best.
People also LOVE talking shyt behind your back for no reason
Only the most sensible men who realize how insignificant other people's thoughts are and how useless other people are in general since everyone likes using everybody else overcome that shyt
2020 and the ensuing pandemic was a necessary pause to remind people, especially men, how it is but men don't get a safety net only women do who like to use people like no tomorrow
Things are going to get demonic by 2030