The Bible says there is no thing under the sun. Even in the heyday of racism, Malcolm X complained about how the Africans had no problem staying in white hotels, to which the American negroes were denied access. From Nimrod to Jesus to Pushkin to Poitier, there have ALWAYS been black elites. ALWAYS.
Black History Moment: African Elites in India
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lol, you're at the top of the caste system.. so i guess you can defend it... but I didn't say Most oppressive- nazism, south african, congo, america, etc were more oppressive. I said most disgusting.. because it does make it the hardest to move around in classes.... and there are some color and ethic rules to it.go on and tell me how the caste system is any more oppressive than any other feudal social construct (it's not), by all means. I'm not denying that Indians promote nepotism and economic consolidation in other lands. I'm not denying that we have cutthroat, exploitative business practices. But that's how you win in the 21st century... My bone to pick is with the double standard some of yall have.... And the disparaging language you use.
And I actually don't have personal issue with business practices... but you should. There will be four Indian dudes making 12 Billion on the backs of 100K indians. That's nuts. In IT , honestly americans are getting used to the Idea of indians... Because no body knows how to manage Indians like other Indians... they go hard as fukk.. and even if they are paying someone 50.hr... they still have that person in symoblic slavery. But that slavery makes our entire industry flourish.. and the Indians at the top of it get to come and hang w CAC and be proud that their accent is nearly gone and they can be pseudo cac.
I'm serious... look at some the culture events and historical events in places like North, South America, Asia, Africa, and Europe.[/quote]whatever makes you feel better, man.
Julius Skrrvin
I be winkin' through the scope
not exactly. Strictly according to the caste system I shouldn't even exist. I'm half brahmin and half kshatriya heritage. so... You missed my point when I was talking about the caste system as a feudal construct. You're supposed to compare it to other feudal societies. Like the monarchies in europe or the shogunates in Japan. There was no mobility in those either, strict social guidelines and roles mandated by birth and plenty of slavery/division by ethnicity to boot. The reason it's so salient w/India today is because technologically India basically made the jump from a feudal society to a modern one in a very short period of time, and hasn't managed to have a class based movement for real yet. Like I said, I agree that indians are self-exploitive. The reason we're among the most enslaved people in the world today is because of exploitative capitalist rationales combined with attitudes toward labor coming from the feudal and brit eras... India needs socialism IMO.edit: and im not defending the caste system. I can just contextualize it properly instead of kneejerk reaction
I'm not saying that blacks haven't had great cultural impacts all over the world, but I understand a
when i see one.
GetInTheTruck
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it depends on how its done.
the way Indians do one another with the caste might be the most disgusting social system in history. So the way they have done and would do africans would probably beand not
plus you know there is only one group that actually increases the populations swag whether they are in the position of oppressed or oppressor. The rest of the groups just are
stylistically.
Swag, style, what are you even on about breh? Europeans been obsessed with India for the longest, why you think they try to call themselves aryans, practice yoga, and all that other shyt.
As for this thread, I have no problem with a group of Africans who had esteemed positions at some point in India's history. The point @Broletariat is making is that when Indians do it in Africa y'all call us oppressors. Hypocrisy, as usual.
When Indians do it to AFricans... What do u call it?
GetInTheTruck
Member
What are Indians doing to Africans?
I'm asking you..
we clearly said what we thought of what Africans did in India...
So What do u call what Indians have done to AFricans and in Africa?
GetInTheTruck
Member
You mean Indians who were brought to Africa and made the most of their situation? Isn't that what those Africans who were brought to India did?
Julius Skrrvin
I be winkin' through the scope
remember bruh, nobody wants to be like us or wants our culture. No corporations take aspects of it and mass produce it. There was no new age movement. They don't eat our food, drink our teas, consume our movies or music. Everybody in the world wants to be black. We are swagless, and have no accomplishments in this world. Right?
GetInTheTruck
Member
Its funny that's what some of these guys say while at the same time trying to claim Indian civilization as their own. shyt is hilarious. I say some because not all black folk are on that bullshyt but still...
I had no problem with this thread and wasn't going to comment till I learned more, and in that other thread I even mentioned that it sounded interesting and I'd check it out. I wasn't even thinking about that double standard till you pointed it out.
Julius Skrrvin
I be winkin' through the scope
what we do is what guys like twism and tons of other people on this board advocate. People on here are always talking about black business and black power right? Not integrating and relying on social programs, but segregating and building and paving the way for younger generations to get jobs and success, right? By any means necessary. My parents family were indentured slaves on both sides. They were tricked into signing contracts when they were illiterate and they did their hard labor on the fiji sugar cane fields and kenyan railroads... Then they held each other up and trailblazed their way though business, government, medicine, and law...Isn't that exactly what people say blacks should do here and in america? But for some reason, Africans have slated us a few times on this board, calling us vultures, corrupt, racist and fail to integrate with African society and call us c00ns to boot because we will use whatever means necessary to win, even if they are handouts.. so you see what i'm saying?
there r africans and there are aa
Isn't that exactly what people say blacks should do here and in america? But for some reason, Africans have slated us a few times on this board, calling us vultures, corrupt, racist and fail to integrate with African society and call us c00ns to boot because we will use whatever means necessary to win, even if they are handouts.. so you see what i'm saying?
Julius Skrrvin
I be winkin' through the scope
Like I said I get why they are mad at us sometimes. Most people from the old country are racist to every single ethnic subgroup that isnt theirs, even among indians. To them, I'm not surprised why they're aggy at people coming into their native country and then receiving better treatment from colonial powers than they did. That's fine, I can understand that pain. I can even understand @2Quik4UHoes need to talk up African success in the Indian subcontinent, cus thats how pride works. What I can't cosign with is the tone and lack of acknowledgement and respect they use when discussing my people, as any reasonable man would. You will never see me or you make the sort of socially judgmental threads people make about India about Africa. You will never see me highlighting aspects of African culture and calling them backward, oppressive, or barbaric.
Its funny that's what some of these guys say while at the same time trying to claim Indian civilization as their own. shyt is hilarious. I say some because not all black folk are on that bullshyt but still...
I had no problem with this thread and wasn't going to comment till I learned more, and in that other thread I even mentioned that it sounded interesting and I'd check it out. I wasn't even thinking about that double standard till you pointed it out.
That's why @The Real is one of the few guys I really respect on this board, because no matter the situation he can mentally walk in another man's shoes. Instead of judging, he learns and listens.
Isn't that exactly what people say blacks should do here and in america? But for some reason, Africans have slated us a few times on this board, calling us vultures, corrupt, racist and fail to integrate with African society and call us c00ns to boot because we will use whatever means necessary to win, even if they are handouts.. so you see what i'm saying?
The problem with a lot of blacks, especially AAs, my Indian Coli breh, is that they believe their situation to be unique, like there weren't coolies, Slavs, and lower class/slave class people in all societies. Sh*t even blacks had black slaves. A lot of blacks/AA believe that they and only they experience oppression/repression/atrocities when it happens and has happened everywhere in the world and in history as well. Props to you and your family breh, on the real
and hope that we as blacks here in the States can continue to emulate and achieve similar successes 
Julius Skrrvin
I be winkin' through the scope
I know the difference, and the circumstances are not the same..... But what we're basically doing is looking at how a community develops in a foreign land right?