Black feminists criticize Juicy J for twerking scholarship

[theworldismine13]

he's embracing capitalism as well.

and?

 

[Blackking]

and?

he hates on islam too..

damn.. only difference between him n you is.....


he supports young women in their efforts to become doctors

 

[theworldismine13]

he hates on islam too..

damn.. only difference between him n you is.....


he supports young women in their efforts to become doctors

i guess some comments i made have made you into an emotional wreck huh?

 

[Thoughts]

fukk these hoes ....

 

[NZA]

juicy j is not a good man, but that whole part about "twerking on their own terms" was ridiculous. she has been claiming that she is not against twerking, but she also called the contest problematic and ratchet from the start. i support feminists but some of them want no responsibility whatsoever and will do mental gymnastics to uphold victimhood and blame of patriarchy for something. juicy j is a glorified trick, and the twerkers are borderline strippers. they all are willing to do things most feminists would never do, the only difference is that one is a man, so he gets all the blame. by calling this contest problematic and ratchet, she is implying those women are problematic and ratchet, but she is only willing to explicitly target juicy j.

 

[The Real]

juicy j is not a good man, but that whole part about "twerking on their own terms" was ridiculous. she has been claiming that she is not against twerking, but she also called the contest problematic and ratchet from the start. i support feminists but some of them want no responsibility whatsoever and will do mental gymnastics to uphold victimhood and blame of patriarchy for something. juicy j is a glorified trick, and the twerkers are borderline strippers. they all are willing to do things most feminists would never do, the only difference is that one is a man, so he gets all the blame. by calling this contest problematic and ratchet, she is implying those women are problematic and ratchet, but she is only willing to explicitly target juicy j.

For once, we disagree. I don't think the feminists who wrote this article are opposed to twerking, or even to twerking for money. What was problematic and ratchet from the start is the fact that he expected them to do it for a school scholarship. As for responsibility, her point, when she speaks about resistance and being reduced to a body part, is that while Juicy initially framed it as a twerking competition, most of the women who did twerk made it just one part of their entrance video- the other parts were academic or personal narratives. She supports that because it shows a complex image of those women- they can be good students, and still enjoy twerking. While I find the idea of twerking and then talking about recommendation letters or whatever outlandish, I don't see something fundamentally wrong with it. Yet Juicy, in the end, shamed them for twerking at all, after having framed it as the main element of the contest, as if that was all they did or as if it discounts whatever else they did.

I'm sure there were women who stripped down and did nothing but shake their asses for 5 minutes, but that wasn't really who the article was written for, since they're not the ones with money creating contests like this one, and even they wouldn't necessarily deserve criticism insofar as the goal of Black feminism is for women to be able to do those things without being stigmatized for them or as part of a grossly unequal power relation.

 

[NZA]

For once, we disagree. I don't think the feminists who wrote this article are opposed to twerking, or even to twerking for money. What was problematic and ratchet from the start is the fact that he expected them to do it for a school scholarship. As for responsibility, her point, when she speaks about resistance and being reduced to a body part, is that while Juicy initially framed it as a twerking competition, most of the women who did twerk made it just one part of their entrance video- the other parts were academic or personal narratives. She supports that because it shows a complex image of those women- they can be good students, and still enjoy twerking. While I find the idea of twerking and then talking about recommendation letters or whatever outlandish, I don't see something fundamentally wrong with it. Yet Juicy, in the end, shamed them for twerking at all, after having framed it as the main element of the contest, as if that was all they did or as if it discounts whatever else they did.

I'm sure there were women who stripped down and did nothing but shake their asses for 5 minutes, but that wasn't really who the article was written for, since they're not the ones with money creating contests like this one, and even they wouldn't necessarily deserve criticism insofar as the goal of Black feminism is for women to be able to do those things without being stigmatized for them or as part of a grossly unequal power relation.

i dont buy that they only draw a distinction between twerking and twerking for education. i think that twerking for juicy j or anybody like him is why it is "ratchet". i cant really prove that, but i saw nothing that said twerking for scholarships is in itself a bad thing.

on twerking on their own terms...that answer is ridiculous. you dont enter a contest that is fundamentally ratchet unless you are ratchet. if they are ratchet or problematic, then you are at least partially responsible for this mess (even if you adjsut for the power imbalance of juicy j's wealth) furthermore, juicy j could have been seen as having a complex image of a man who enjoys a nice booty and as a supporter of education, but of course nobody is going to grant him that.

i think CFC might have to acknowledge that not only do not all women share their agenda, but that those same women are actually in opposition to their agenda sometimes. women who are fans of juicy j and are willing to twerk for cash are not really in line with whatever it is that this woman is complaining about, yet she cant bring herself to throw some blame at a fellow "sistah" for perpetuating this

 

[FemiO]

Juicy is an idiot. If you make songs that prominently feature lyrics about paying women to twerk and fukk you, including a song called Scholarship specifically about paying strippers to dance, then naturally, when you create something called the twerk scholarship (and don't tell anyone the twerking is optional, on top of that,) and cite your song Scholarship as its inspiration, people will assume that twerking is the way to win, even if they know it's not required. You can't do all that, then drop the idea that twerking is actually not required as a "gotcha" at the end and call the women who did choose to twerk illiterate, hos, undeserving, etc.

i think Juicy is wrong for shaming the girls who twerked but this shyt is bullshyt

it's not his fault they didn't read the rules

 

[The Real]

i think Juicy is wrong for shaming the girls who twerked but this shyt is bullshyt

it's not his fault they didn't read the rules

He specifically posted:

Then, in the official announcement video, he specifically said that contestants should listen to his song Scholarship, about women stripping to pay for college, and Juicy paying them for it, for inspiration (actually, the contest is just a promo for this song):



Then he did a round of radio interviews where he called it the "twerk scholarship."

The rules don't mention twerking one way or the other, either for or against. You can't say that the absence of the mention of twerking somehow outweighs everything else he said in favor of twerking to prove that twerking wasn't part of the contest. And even if you knew it was optional, everything else he said makes it seem like twerking would increase your chance of winning, so even that isn't a reason not to do it.

 

[FemiO]

He specifically posted:

Then, in the official announcement video, he specifically said that contestants should listen to his song Scholarship, about women stripping to pay for college, and Juicy paying them for it, for inspiration (actually, the contest is just a promo for this song):



Then he did a round of radio interviews where he called it the "twerk scholarship."

The rules don't mention twerking one way or the other, either for or against. You can't say that the absence of the mention of twerking somehow outweighs everything else he said in favor of twerking to prove that twerking wasn't part of the contest. And even if you knew it was optional, everything else he said makes it seem like twerking would increase your chance of winning, so even that isn't a reason not to do it.

you're right, i didn't know all this background info, my bad

 

[Ethnic Vagina Finder]

I wouldn't work too hard for it... but I'd smash if she threw it at me. Seems to have a good spirit



and I agree w Juicy J. I don't care to know the details because
1) Bands w make her dance was an ignorant as fukk song...but very catchy and VERY very true in it's points
2) Because he is giving away money for college.. These feminist hoes aren't giving away shyt. I always chose the side of the person supporting education.

3) These bytches said " shaming the sisters who participated." So They call women who wanna publicly Twerk "sistas" But Juicy is a demon? ?

4)"Some part of me thinks that we feminists got what we deserved" Yes, for the most part black feminist are pointless and counterproductive. .

 

[Street Knowledge]

Black feminists aren't as annoying as the average upper middle class white feminist, because when they complain you believe and understand it. You know, because black women are legitimately held back in our society

As for the average white feminist, This picture sums it up perfectly



However I don't think juicy j is a mysoginist. He's just a typical rapper who raps about casual sex with females

 

[Robbie3000]

I don't have any sympathy for these women. If you choose to twerk on camera for some money, you already lost. It means you have very little respect for yourself.

Yeah Juicy J trolled them, but they deserve blame for twerking on camera in the first place.

 

[Type Username Here]

I don't have any sympathy for these women. If you choose to twerk on camera for some money, you already lost. It means you have very little respect for yourself.

Yeah Juicy J trolled them, but they deserve blame for twerking on camera in the first place.

Agreed. Feminists forget that sometimes women can choose.

 

[Un-AmericanDreamer]

I'm surprised so many black feminists keep up with the latest in ratchet culture.