Shut up fakkit
BJJ vs Boxing, which one for self-defense
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Every boxer will tell you that his jab will knock you through 3 buildings if it lands. Thing is, it dont work like that.
Classic wrestling/bjj/Judo takedown. Boxer throws punches that miss, ol boy shoots for the takedown. Takedown is stuffed and ol boy stood up and transitioned into a Uchi Mata. Strikes on the ground. He lets ol boy get up and then demoralizes him with a suplex (wrestling) and its over. He dont want no more. If it had been bjj, it would have been the same cept the fight would have been over on the ground and he wouldnt have let him get up, but if he did he culd have stood up and choked him or just taken him back down.
When you fall down, all that jumping rope, ko power, speed bagging and head movement is useless.
Learn BJJ bruhs.
I'm pretty sure dude wasn't a pure boxer. He also looks cross trained but simply came across a superior grappler.
Yes because if he had only been a boxer any punch he threw would have knocked ol boy through a hill and his takedown defense would have been that much better.
Stop it
@lolwutdawg i would try to respond with some clever insult but i dont have to. i GUARANTEE none of yall talking that way to me would be like that irl. live the life of a coward bro.
You live in Ohio?
I'm saying that the vid you posted doesn't really prove much as far as pure boxing vs. grappling goes, because it shows two cross trained fighters. The guy throwing hands even attempted a takedown himself. You posted that off the vid's name alone, admit it.
I can't help you
I'm saying that the vid you posted doesn't really prove much as far as pure boxing vs. grappling goes, because it shows two cross trained fighters. The guy throwing hands even attempted a takedown himself. You posted that off the vid's name alone, admit it.
What did it prove? Grappling is automatically better than boxing because dude threw some hands and a half ass knee, then attempted a half ass takedown and got dominated? If you really wanted to show an example of a pure boxer vs. a grappler, you could've just posted Couture vs. Toney
or this
TheDarceKnight
Veteran
Any type of legit combat sports training is going to put you at a massive advantage against anyone that doesn't know what they're doing. To quote Ryan hall, a really awesome Jiu-Jitsu guy (check for him, he'll be the UFC soon) "Most people fight the way they ice skate, which is to say like shyt."
Anyone with 1 year of decent training in either is going to give you what you need. I'm biased towards BJJ. With boxing the big advantage is not having to be fully committed to one opponent. One the flip side, I'd argue that NO martial art or combat sport can effectively teach you how to fight multiple attackers, unless that combat sport is shooting. But check the video below.
if you do BJJ and you take some down, pass the. mount them, you do have to be careful about someone shanking you or slamming a bottle against your head. But for one on one combat, I do think it's the most effective way to control, and it's great because YOU CHOOSE your level of damage that you want to inflict. You can put someone to sleep and not hurt them at all, or you can shred their ACL. Also, if you box, you could break your hands, get them infected by broken teeth, then you've got to worry about diseases, etc.
With BJJ, it makes for an easier scene if you have to deal with law enforcement later. Nothing is guaranteed in self defense, and having a blade or a gun is probably ideal if you're truly concerned about multiple attackers, but for 1 on 1 self defense, I'd say BJJ and Judo, even though you didn't ask about that. You can easily maim or kill someone with a super hard throw on concrete, and the ground work is good enough for self defense, and top oriented.
I could go on about this shyt for days. I'd pick whatever interests you the most, and you'll be good no matter what.
TheDarceKnight
Veteran
Absolutely! The reality is that it's much easier to grapple with someone that wants to strike than it is to strike with someone that wants to grapple, assuming both people are pretty one dimensional.
Especially if the grappler is willing to eat a shot or two when closing the distance. Tuck that chin, take a couple on the hard part of the forehead, and they're wrapped up.
But yeah back to your point. So many times grappling occurs not by choice. People grab each other and end up going to the ground all the time. People get hit, and they clinch. People punch themselves and clinch. It's a very natural instinct. If you're getting lit up, the best place to be is 10+ feet away, or 6 inches away.
KyokushinKarateMan
Train hard, fight easy
Yeah he was clearly not a "boxer" as was evident by the way he was comfortable enough on the ground to attempt a kimura(sp). Looked like he was just a weaker/lesser trained/less confident grappler to me.
A boxer would've just calmly slid back when the guy dove in for the takedown, most likely delivering a blow to the guy's dome in the process too. It's their footwork reflex to do so. This guy's reflex was to sprawl.
Amare's Right Hook
Southeast World Champion
Thanks for trying to save the thread. I knew it would devolve into s-hit. They always do.
With standing passes and k eek on belly you focus on the takedown and passing your opponent without havino ol to really be on the ground. This is a style I enjoy employing. The knée on belly is demoralizing creates panic in your opponent and he will mentally quit by verbally saying stop or just letting you knock him put or break his arm to relieve him of the pressure. There is always a way in jiujitsu if you want it.
Hey you know Ryan? You at 50/50?
Ryan was a friend and used to train me when he was purple at TLI