NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
No they weren't.
the 92 team did not have as many prolific shooters in their prime as this 12 team.
Nothing is fluke when this team was averageing 18 made threes a game
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No they weren't.
the 92 team did not have as many prolific shooters in their prime as this 12 team.
Nothing is fluke when this team was averageing 18 made threes a game
R.E.N. Spells Ren
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All this level of competition and point differential talk is irrelevant. 92 would've won gold, easily, against today's field, and 12 would've won gold, easily, against the 92 field.
Now, you just have to compare the two teams, and 12 is overmatched. And this isn't a referendum on current players....this isn't the team that most of us would create using current players anyway.
Now, you just have to compare the two teams, and 12 is overmatched. And this isn't a referendum on current players....this isn't the team that most of us would create using current players anyway.
R.E.N. Spells Ren
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They could black out, but clearly not to the level of the 2012 team, they didn't score more against worse competition
It's a fluke yet they topped 20 threes after that game, and flirted with hitting 20 2 more times.
Jacking threes for the hell of it against far overmatched teams doesn't prove a got damn thing.
Y'all put way too much stock in how these blowouts were won. There's nothing more useless information in all of sports than how blowouts are won.
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
See...this is where I have no interest in debating cats.
Some of your are more interested in categorizing things than taking them for what they are.
They weren't jacking threes. That three point shot simply could not be stopped by anyone.
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It's amazing how certain things are held against the 12 team that don't apply to the 92 team. So, in one post you're saying the 12 team won't get open looks from 3's because the Dream Team isn't Nigeria, yet here you are talking about how fluid the 92 team's offense was against even worse teams than Nigeria
I said that '92 has better passers and was more fluid...Period...I'm just talking about basketball from my perspective.. If you disagree then fine..
The logic in your argument seems to come down to this sliding scale of competition that I guess only you have the answer to....
According to you everything that the '92 did is tainted by the fact that they faced inferior competiton..Everything that the '12 did is more impressive because their competition is so much better..
I guess the '92 shall be referred to as the asterisk squad...
I guess we can get really convoluted and talk about how the '12 had better dietitians, trainers and sneakers.. If Bird has access to Kobe's German doctors and Jordan had Lebron's hyperbaric leg chambers maybe they would have beat the "cab drivers" by 100 instead of just 60...
You're grading on the same curve that allows me to say "Babe Ruth ain't shyt because he never played against brothers"...
At the end of the day neither one of us is gonna be right or wrong...But we have to eventually meet at some point when we are just talking basketball...Just hoopin... The answer to the question of 'who wins a 7 game series?' seems to make all of these other sheninigans useless...
I we can agree on that.. Then what are we really doing here?
If we disagree on that, then
R.E.N. Spells Ren
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Whitty Hutton
these posters are TRASH
people underrating the 2012 players, as usual. im sorry but ewings slow ass aint dominating sh!t, neither would Drob. 2012 athletes would swarm them to death.
people need to realize the game has changed from 1992. their game was slower and more big men centric, now guards and swing men dominate. there is two sides to the ball. people claim 1992 team would just punish them inside, but who are they going to guard ? barkley, and malone supposed to have a chance against lebron, durant, and melo ? i dont think the dream team would be successful at making it a slow, grind it out game. neither magic or stockton is staying in front of paul, williams, or westbrook. i think the uptempo game would greatly favor the 2012 team, and they would get plenty of open 3s, which they specialized in.
just my opinion
Then why did Marc and Pau Gasol do whatever they wanted and come within 7 points of sending these nikkas home with silver?
Only thing that slowed them down was fouls. Gasol brothers can beast in the paint, but HOF'ers would get "swarmed to death"...
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It's not a fluke..
But he is hanging his argument on a team that does a better job shooting lower percentage shots having a better chance of winning a 1 off than a team that does a better job getting higher percentage buckets...
To me personally thats funny math in the long run (7 games) but for a single elimination game it could work to their advantage...It's like taking a team of Homerun sluggers over a team that bats for average... I'll take the dudes that can get on base over the one that can blast a 500 footer..Just playing the percentages...
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
Romanticize?
You're the one busy framing it as "jacking" and all of the other nonsense.
It was a part of their arsenal, period. I don't get the negative slant against it.
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
It's a lower percentage shot compared to someone shooting from teh low blocks, without question. But when they're damn near hitting over half of their shots from three, its the greatest equalizer in basketball.
R.E.N. Spells Ren
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Nah, it's fluke shyt. Not in terms of facing the bums of the world, but in facing the Dream Team, they'd need a flukey night to win.
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I wouldn't take it that far...But I will say this.. What they did against Spain on Sunday isn't good enough to win against '92...Unless you are willing to take the leap and say that Spain is as good and deep as '92...What they did against Nigeria would beat ANYONE..
In a 7 game series '92 would win in 6 imo...A lot of the games would probably be close...
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
But I will say this.. What they did against Spain on Sunday isn't good enough to win against '92...Unless you are willing to take the leap and say that Spain is as good and deep as '92...What they did against Nigeria would beat ANYONE..
In a 7 game series '92 would win in 6 imo...A lot of the games would probably be close...
Dude is more interested in categorizing their abilities.
"Flukey" "jacking threes"
For the 2012 team, that shyt wasn't a fluke hitting those threes.
They were deliberate and was a part of their game.
mastermind
Rest In Power Kobe
ever since the comparison was made, I have said this. the 2012 team has better perimeter players. I dont know if its enough to counter the inside presence of the 1992 team, but on the perimeter the 2012 team has a clear advantage.
mastermind
Rest In Power Kobe
also, I dont like people slandering Nigeria.
The Nigerian team had more NBA players than most of the teams the '92 team faced, and more D1 level players than most of the '92 team faced.
I dont believe the 2012 team beats Nigeria by 83 points all the time, or even 40-50, but its always a blowout.
The Nigerian team had more NBA players than most of the teams the '92 team faced, and more D1 level players than most of the '92 team faced.
I dont believe the 2012 team beats Nigeria by 83 points all the time, or even 40-50, but its always a blowout.