Bill Simmons on 2012 team vs. the Dream Team
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so this were u dudes went
Yes it is when you say
It clearly is when they're facing BETTER COMPETITION than the 92 team.
LOL at "it's what yall hang on to to make a point for the current team" as if you said something to take away from that point.
dude you dont even make sense, is the '12 team playing the teams the dream team had to face in this hypothetical argument? the point of the point differential is that if the '12 team is squeaking those type of wins vs spain and argentina what do you think will be the point differential vs the damn dream team? the only way it becomes about the competition the dream team faced, is if i bring up the point differentials the dream team had on they competition. its really not that hard to follow. yall just so stuck in your same points you cant keep up.
the only way the point differential argument is non and void is if you tell me that spain and argentina are just as good as a team as the dream team. and yall cant be that silly.
The move without the ball one...IDK....this 2012 team was stagnant as hell.
Came in to post this and its all that needs to be said.
No international team this year is on the same talent level as the 92 dream team and yet the '12 team had some close games against them. How the fukk do yall really think they are going to beat the 92 team?
Quick question, why do you keep mentioning Argentina? In Olympic play they beat Argentina by an average of 28ppg, they got rolled in the end, so how about you drop them from your argument.
Oh, because you stated it that makes it so, the Dream Team was quantified, weighed and measured out to be precisely 5x better than Spain and Argentina, I guess that means they'd score 500pts against the 2012 team.
So apparently MJ and Pippen have been cloned and would be guarding everyone, that makes sense. I like how you skirt around questions like who is guarding Durant or Melo?
And another point to prove. 12' never loss. 92' lost to college kids more faster and athletic. Peep Bird's comment after that scrimmage loss. Too much speed and athletism. And thats exactly 12' has over 92'. But not only do they have that. 12' has just as much exp. but it is wat it is. 
Yeah, you're not at all interested in being objective, might as well just post "nanananana I can't hear you". So who is Mullin and Bird guarding, how about you name anyone other than MJ and Pippen that were even average perimeter defenders
So now Iggy has been downgraded to "decent" defender.OG Talk
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As far as passing goes
Jordan>Kobe
Malone>Davis
Magic>CP3
Pippen>Durant
Mullin>Melo
Robinson>Chandler lol
Stockton>Westbrook
Bird>Iggy
And '12 achillies heel besides size was their habit of playing iso and standing around.. Their half court offense didn't have the fluency that '92 did.. A lot of their 3's came in transition.. The majority of their easy baskets were in transition off of turnovers..Their movement was horrible at times...I said from day one they were playing just like the '10-11 Miami Heat...
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I am completely making sense. Holding it against the 2012 team for playing in close games COMPARED to the 92 team is garbage in light of the competition the US teams face today is ten times greater than in the past.
Bringing up the point differential is a moot point when the FACTS are that the Spanish team ALONE had more NBA players than the ENTIRE FIELD the 92 team faced in the Olympics.
What the fukk?
I"m my own spokesman and can talk for myself. I'm not telling you that retarded nonsensical bullshyt you just created.
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
As far as passing goes
Jordan>Kobe
Malone>Davis
Magic>CP3
Pippen>Durant
Mullin>Melo
Robinson>Chandler lol
Stockton>Westbrook
Bird>Iggy
And '12 achillies heel besides size was their habit of playing iso and standing around.. Their half court offense didn't have the fluency that '92 did.. A lot of their 3's came in transition..
The 2012 team holds the Olympic record for assists. I don't know what games you were watching to say this was an ISO heavy team unless it was Kobe killing ball movement.
As far as passing goes
Jordan>Kobe
Malone>Davis
Magic>CP3
Pippen>Durant
Mullin>Melo
Robinson>Chandler lol
Stockton>Westbrook
Bird>Iggy
And '12 achillies heel besides size was their habit of playing iso and standing around.. Their half court offense didn't have the fluency that '92 did.. A lot of their 3's came in transition..
It's amazing how certain things are held against the 12 team that don't apply to the 92 team. So, in one post you're saying the 12 team won't get open looks from 3's because the Dream Team isn't Nigeria, yet here you are talking about how fluid the 92 team's offense was against even worse teams than Nigeria
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
It's amazing how certain things are held against the 12 team that don't apply to the 92 team. So, in one post you're saying the 12 team won't get open looks from 3's because the Dream Team isn't Nigeria, yet here you are talking about how fluid the 92 team's offense was against even worse teams than Nigeria
Exactly.
The point differential of the 2012 US team getting by Argentina and Spain should be used against them, but it's a moot point to use the quality of opponent the 92 Dream team faced compared to the 2012 team.
Niqqas in here are ass backwards.
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They were absolutely capable of blacking out. 12 is better at shooting the three, but so the fukk what? You're hanging your whole argument on some fluke shyt.
They could black out, but clearly not to the level of the 2012 team, they didn't score more against worse competition
It's a fluke yet they topped 20 threes after that game, and flirted with hitting 20 2 more times.