Bible Verse: Deuteronomy 18:18

[DoubleClutch]

I don't treat holy books as textbooks so the things in them are about as heavy as the things in the Watchmen graphic novel

They speak of important themes but to say anything in these books "happened" is tough

But lets speak on it like we'd talk about Thanos. As if it "happened"

G-d cannot be jealous. Or disappointed. You cannot do things that are outside of your nature and design. G-d designed every iota of you on purpose, so how can you disappoint?

Debo cannot disappoint us after watching Friday 900 times. We know exactly what he will do every second of the movie.

Can Smokey disappoint his.creator Ice Cube? He cannot. Cube made him exactly as he wanted him. Flaws and all.

So a jealous, angry, vengeful entity simply CANNOT be the true, transcendent G-d.

G-d is the entirety of the soul and substance of the Universe. G-d is 'everywhere' just like you are everywhere to the cells in your body

Jealousy and all that shyt is about limitations. About not knowing what's coming next

The true G-d has no limits and knows exactly what's next

but man was made in Gods “image” not vice versa

Just because God is outside of time and “knows everything” before it happens doesn’t mean humans on earth don’t have free will

Still from our perspective everything works out how God “planned” it. The Bible, God/Jesus, etc.. are all part of that equation. It’s all part of the story whether you believe it literally or not

but you and MMS seem to have an difficulty trying to reconcile the god of Judaism with your own personal beliefs/knowledge of other religions beliefs.

but you still want to believe in A GOD just not 100% the one you see in parts of the Bible

I don’t think you’re seeing the bigger picture.

but then again I don’t expect you, me or anyone to. who can fully comprehend the ways of God from a human perspective?

We’re just asked to believe in him.


Who are you to say what God is, and what he can or can’t do anyways?

 

[MMS]

but man was made in Gods “image” not vice versa

Just because God is outside of time and “knows everything” before it happens doesn’t mean humans on earth don’t have free will

Still from our perspective everything works out how God “planned” it. The Bible, God/Jesus, etc.. are all part of that equation. It’s all part of the story whether you believe it literally or not

but you and MMS seem to have an difficulty trying to reconcile the god of Judaism with your own personal beliefs/knowledge of other religions beliefs.

but you still want to believe in A GOD just not 100% the one you see in parts of the Bible

I don’t think you’re seeing the bigger picture.

but then again I don’t expect you, me or anyone to. who can fully comprehend the ways of God from a human perspective?

We’re just asked to believe in him.


Who are you to say what God is, and what he can or can’t do anyways?

most of the contradictions you see in the OT boil down to how the prophet/scribe views god

this is also why people have a hard time reconciling what they see vs what you see in say 2021

that said if you consider that time elapses and people change and what we think we perceive is changing you realize that we are experiencing what I like to call "reflections" of the prophecies in the Bible. They become true as a consequence of the way people live more or less. So despite what veneer people try to put to the way they live ultimately when it compares to Genesis 1 it still isnt that. Thats why I say its important to reflect on what is written with context to Genesis.

They would talk about Zion, and Jerusalem etc in the same as modern people speak of New York City and Los Angeles....Just because you think its good doesnt mean God would see it good. Various prophets scribing things like "Now god will delight in your sacrifices" while David (psalms) clearly say God does not delight in sacrifice...This is why I say Moloch is the god of sacrifice. Fundamentally the need to kill is only of the cult of Yahweh which is more or less bringing hell on earth. Its important to understand that the concept Jesus said "Do unto others as youd have done unto yourself"...those who sacrifice animals/men etc should be ok with being sacrificed themselves...remember God made man in his image...as in a reflection. How does a reflection become warped?

this is why i implore you to consider allegorical crucifixion of the word of God...you will cease to be proud of the OT deeds once you realize what it means.

 

[DoubleClutch]

John 1:1

Genesis 1:1

stop trying to label everything and just read those verses. You say "God of Ancient Egypt" when Egypt referred to living things as Gods...see the issue? They deified concepts, creatures, people and positions etc. Their world view is not the same as the biblical worldview...however, they did understand proportion and subsequently proportion mathematics...which is the underlying substance in the Bible. So in essence whoever wrote the bible wrote it with numbers and proportions in mind

these subliminal things play tricks on you if you arent cognizant of them. Thus why my Egyptian posts seem to confound. Whether they have anything to do with eachother doesnt really matter the reason they appear to should be what concerns you.

Remember the OT was compiled AFTER the destruction of the First Temple. The Second Temple days are not the same as the First temple and what sprouted out of Babylon is the Talmud.

So what? Go study numerology and mathematics. That has nothing to do with Israel and Yahweh and the Bible

All this doesn’t matter if you think Yahweh from the Bible is a false pagan God

and that’s why you won’t answer.

Especially if you studying Egypt is what has lead you to that conclusion to begin with and not your own faith or lack of it

You going learning so much about Egyptian religion has you confused about what to believe in which is expected if you really did understand the Bible

Ironic

Question, if you weren’t Black would you even be interested in Ancient Egypt?

 

[DoubleClutch]

most of the contradictions you see in the OT boil down to how the prophet/scribe views god

this is also why people have a hard time reconciling what they see vs what you see in say 2021

that said if you consider that time elapses and people change and what we think we perceive is changing you realize that we are experiencing what I like to call "reflections" of the prophecies in the Bible. They become true as a consequence of the way people live more or less. So despite what veneer people try to put to the way they live ultimately when it compares to Genesis 1 it still isnt that. Thats why I say its important to reflect on what is written with context to Genesis.

They would talk about Zion, and Jerusalem etc in the same as modern people speak of New York City and Los Angeles....Just because you think its good doesnt mean God would see it good. Various prophets scribing things like "Now god will delight in your sacrifices" while David (psalms) clearly say God does not delight in sacrifice...This is why I say Moloch is the god of sacrifice. Fundamentally the need to kill is only of the cult of Yahweh which is more or less bringing hell on earth. Its important to understand that the concept Jesus said "Do unto others as youd have done unto yourself"...those who sacrifice animals/men etc should be ok with being sacrificed themselves...remember God made man in his image...as in a reflection. How does a reflection become warped?

this is why i implore you to consider allegorical crucifixion of the word of God...you will cease to be proud of the OT deeds once you realize what it means.

Do you believe Jesus was crucified and died on the cross?

 

[Ghost Utmost]

but man was made in Gods “image” not vice versa

Just because God is outside of time and “knows everything” before it happens doesn’t mean humans on earth don’t have free will

Still from our perspective everything works out how God “planned” it. The Bible, God/Jesus, etc.. are all part of that equation. It’s all part of the story whether you believe it literally or not

but you and MMS seem to have an difficulty trying to reconcile the god of Judaism with your own personal beliefs/knowledge of other religions beliefs.

but you still want to believe in A GOD just not 100% the one you see in parts of the Bible

I don’t think you’re seeing the bigger picture.

but then again I don’t expect you, me or anyone to. who can fully comprehend the ways of God from a human perspective?

We’re just asked to believe in him.


Who are you to say what God is, and what he can or can’t do anyways?

You stepped in it now Breh

Its deep, too.

G-d is the entire Universe. The Universe was empty and totally still before... now. Before the Big Bang/Creation.

We clock that as long ago but from a different frame or reference it could be as fast as a photo develops to us. The whole lifespan of the Universe bursts froth and forms a completely frozen 4D hologram that G-d look at from every angle like we can a photo. Which contains all the motions of all the particles in time. But able to be seen at once.

Okay

So G-d is nothing like us. Mentally. Having a mind in the first place means you're a separate thing from everything around you, and you're trying to

figure out

what to do. Animals do it generation by generation and develop a baby that's exactly the same as the adult, just mad smaller. With us, we develop as an individual from dumb to smart. But we can grow to be a million times smarter than most animals.

Even so. The mind is the definition of a limit. Questions. Experiments. Predictions. Cause you're immersed in the

unknown.

And you never really know a whole lot. The internet really isn't that fukcing brilliant. Its mainly just pictures of naked women.

Emotions and faith and all the things our personalities are made of .. its all about living in a world of danger and intrigue, and trying to work all that to your advantage.

You think of G-d as a Humanoid, but It is what came before. Before life. Before matter. Before particles. And everything that has happened was baked into the first moment.

The first particles knew how to develop into more complex ones. How to gravitate and make stars and dust and diamonds and water. The dirt knew how to become DNA. All this is programmed into the the energy and the particles in the first instant

To us, it develops over billions of years

Logic tells me these things. If G-d is all knowing and everything is made of It, the this is logically how It has to be

Okay

Consciousness. The entire physical realm is pure consciousness. The mind of G-d. The dream of G-d. And your consciousness is simply a mere particle of the entire consciousness of the Universe

G-d. Plays all the characters. Every ant. Every microbe. Your mind IS the mind of G-d. The only time G-d speaks is through creatures that can.speak. The only time G-d fears or loves is as a being who fears or loves.

Pretending to be limited. Pretending to have forgotten that you are G-d. Then you spend your life learning about yourself all over again. And its always amazing to you. Keeps you coming back.

If this is hard to imagine. Don't try. Limited mind cannot comprehend the unlimited

I believe it clicks at the time of death for some reason. You fall into the abyss like

 

[MMS]

So what? Go study numerology and mathematics. That has nothing to do with Israel and Yahweh and the Bible

All this doesn’t matter if you think Yahweh from the Bible is a false pagan God

and that’s why you won’t answer.

Especially if you studying Egypt is what has lead you to that conclusion to begin with and not your own faith or lack of it

You going learning so much about Egyptian religion has you confused about what to believe in which is expected if you really did understand the Bible

Ironic

Question, if you weren’t Black would you even be interested in Ancient Egypt?

i dont know if you reading my posts so im gonna leave it at this and hope you sincerely meditate on the scripture really as @Johnny Kilroy is alluding to.

Why believe something that you dont want to further understand?

put it another way, why not believe like Ghengis Khan did in the "Sky father" Tengri and that there is no sin at all? since anguish, pain, fear, lies, pride, hatred and destruction are just "aspects" of God that you should blindly accept Ghengis reportedly could walk through lightning storms unphased.

this is what you are ultimately asking me to do, any real believer in Jesus Christ would not look at the biblical narrative and not discern whats happening. When you say "Whatever happens is just part of Gods plan"...truly consider the ramifications of that mindset before its too late.

 

[MMS]

You stepped in it now Breh

Its deep, too.

G-d is the entire Universe. The Universe was empty and totally still before... now. Before the Big Bang/Creation.

We clock that as long ago but from a different frame or reference it could be as fast as a photo develops to us. The whole lifespan of the Universe bursts froth and forms a completely frozen 4D hologram that G-d look at from every angle like we can a photo. Which contains all the motions of all the particles in time. But able to be seen at once.

Okay

So G-d is nothing like us. Mentally. Having a mind in the first place means you're a separate thing from everything around you, and you're trying to

figure out

what to do. Animals do it generation by generation and develop a baby that's exactly the same as the adult, just mad smaller. With us, we develop as an individual from dumb to smart. But we can grow to be a million times smarter than most animals.

Even so. The mind is the definition of a limit. Questions. Experiments. Predictions. Cause you're immersed in the

unknown.

And you never really know a whole lot. The internet really isn't that fukcing brilliant. Its mainly just pictures of naked women.

Emotions and faith and all the things our personalities are made of .. its all about living in a world of danger and intrigue, and trying to work all that to your advantage.

You think of G-d as a Humanoid, but It is what came before. Before life. Before matter. Before particles. And everything that has happened was baked into the first moment.

The first particles knew how to develop into more complex ones. How to gravitate and make stars and dust and diamonds and water. The dirt knew how to become DNA. All this is programmed into the the energy and the particles in the first instant

To us, it develops over billions of years

Logic tells me these things. If G-d is all knowing and everything is made of It, the this is logically how It has to be

Okay

Consciousness. The entire physical realm is pure consciousness. The mind of G-d. The dream of G-d. And your consciousness is simply a mere particle of the entire consciousness of the Universe

G-d. Plays all the characters. Every ant. Every microbe. Your mind IS the mind of G-d. The only time G-d speaks is through creatures that can.speak. The only time G-d fears or loves is as a being who fears or loves.

Pretending to be limited. Pretending to have forgotten that you are G-d. Then you spend your life learning about yourself all over again. And its always amazing to you. Keeps you coming back.

If this is hard to imagine. Don't try. Limited mind cannot comprehend the unlimited

I believe it clicks at the time of death for some reason. You fall into the abyss like

This is closer to solipsism

Solipsism - Wikipedia

I do agree that God speaks through the living...but Creation itself can be construed as alive as well.

There is a trap in thinking God is of the mind. Rather than the heart.

1 Samuel 16:7

7 But the Lord said unto Samuel, Look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have refused him: for the Lord seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the Lord looketh on the heart.

The mind is the great satan. So many folks in here seeking God but failing to understand knowledge as it pertains to Genesis 3 (cursed)

there is a reason people believe in Ghosts, demons, angels and all sorts of vain things. It is because they believe the mind is all that is and all that perceives. They deceive themselves greatly.

@DoubleClutch Egypt also was more concerned with a persons heart than their mind. Much of their theology revolves around what the heart perceives.

EDIT - also the Big Bang is not a proven theory and is losing steam every day.

You cannot with a straight face believe Genesis 1 and also the Big bang.

 

[Ghost Utmost]

This is closer to solipsism

Solipsism - Wikipedia

I do agree that God speaks through the living...but Creation itself can be construed as alive as well.

There is a trap in thinking God is of the mind. Rather than the heart.

1 Samuel 16:7



The mind is the great satan. So many folks in here seeking God but failing to understand knowledge as it pertains to Genesis 3 (cursed)

there is a reason people believe in Ghosts, demons, angels and all sorts of vain things. It is because they believe the mind is all that is and all that perceives. They deceive themselves greatly.

@DoubleClutch Egypt also was more concerned with a persons heart than their mind. Much of their theology revolves around what the heart perceives.

I'd agree. I wouldn't say G-d has a mind anything like ours. Whatever It "thinks" doesn't constantly morph and speculate. Probably very simple. Maybe just one concept

I am

I am that I am

I'm here

Dammit

EDIT:

My shyt is not solipsism . The human mind is a blizzard of illusion. We probably don't see things as they truly are. What we see is just a way for our brain to organize information. Red isn't a "color" it's a wavelength of light. There are tons of wavelengths that you can't even detect. What color are they?

You can't hear low enough frequencies to hear you own digestive system churning constantly. But it is. The sound can be detected otherwise. To you it doesn't exist.

The human mind is very useful. But most people stay totally engulfed in their perception without trying to understand that which us at the edge of perception

and that which is beyond your perception

 

[MMS]

I'd agree. I wouldn't say G-d has a mind anything like ours. Whatever It "thinks" doesn't constantly morph and speculate. Probably very simple. Maybe just one concept

I am

I am that I am

I'm here

Dammit

Are you that I am, or this I am?

If everyone refers to themselves with I, does that make I everyone and subsequently the collective name of God?

Spoiler: Psalm 2:9

every letter of every language can be broken down into I's

https://www.thecoli.com/posts/40539374/

 

[Ghost Utmost]

Are you that I am, or this I am?

If everyone refers to themselves with I, does that make I everyone and subsequently the collective name of God?

Spoiler: Psalm 2:9

every letter of every language can be broken down into I's

https://www.thecoli.com/posts/40539374/

Its all

I

One big I and infinite little I

Rastas speak of

I and I

 

[MMS]

Its all

I

One big I and infinite little I

Rastas speak of

I and I

I’m convinced this is the essence of what written language causes but in a weird way it is profoundly true

“dikk made the cover, now count how many veins on it” is still killing me

on my life I didn’t plan it

 

[Dave24]

@MMS any good websites and/or books that talk about genghis khan believing there is no sin at all and also genghis khan walking through lightning storms unphased?

 

[MMS]

@MMS any good websites and/or books that talk about genghis khan believing there is no sin at all and also genghis khan walking through lightning storms unphased?

Tengrism is what predates Buddhism
Tengrism - Wikipedia

in a weird way...its true

because they accept all things, all consequences to their actions and believe its all Gods will

Its a horrible way of belief in the long run though. Yet its arguable that their way of life preserves the world better than those who build cities.

Listen to this and tell me you dont start wanting to ride a horse and fly eagles and hunt wolves






Hu (mythology) - Wikipedia

 

[MMS]

EDIT:

My shyt is not solipsism . The human mind is a blizzard of illusion. We probably don't see things as they truly are. What we see is just a way for our brain to organize information. Red isn't a "color" it's a wavelength of light. There are tons of wavelengths that you can't even detect. What color are they?

You can't hear low enough frequencies to hear you own digestive system churning constantly. But it is. The sound can be detected otherwise. To you it doesn't exist.

The human mind is very useful. But most people stay totally engulfed in their perception without trying to understand that which us at the edge of perception

and that which is beyond your perception

had to quote this edit repped

-> click <-

EDIT - I posted this in another thread but i highly recommend you give this a read, i think youd like it
ANCIENT EGYPT : The Wisdom of Ptahhotep

 

[DoubleClutch]

i dont know if you reading my posts so im gonna leave it at this and hope you sincerely meditate on the scripture really as @Johnny Kilroy is alluding to.

Why believe something that you dont want to further understand?

put it another way, why not believe like Ghengis Khan did in the "Sky father" Tengri and that there is no sin at all? since anguish, pain, fear, lies, pride, hatred and destruction are just "aspects" of God that you should blindly accept Ghengis reportedly could walk through lightning storms unphased.

this is what you are ultimately asking me to do, any real believer in Jesus Christ would not look at the biblical narrative and not discern whats happening. When you say "Whatever happens is just part of Gods plan"...truly consider the ramifications of that mindset before its too late.

That’s why I’m asking you, to see what you believe.

Do you believe Jesus was crucified and died on the cross?

Since you are a “real believer” I just wanna know if we are on the same page.