Bible Verse: Deuteronomy 18:18
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Ok now we’re getting somewhere Finally
Do you not believe in Jesus?
I do, we might have different interpretations of who he is though.
DoubleClutch
Superstar
So you “believe” in him the same way Muslims do.
Only to the extent which he fits into your own Bible narrative and unique religious views
You and MMS seem to believe in a little bit of everything but commit to nothing 100%
It would be too hard to take a more concrete definitive stance of “Yes”or “No” like Jews or Christians
We believe in one God, the Father Almighty, Maker of all things visible and invisible.So you “believe” in him the same way Muslims do.
Only to the extent which he fits into your own Bible narrative and unique religious views
You and MMS seem to believe in a little bit of everything but commit to nothing 100%
It would be too hard to take a more concrete definitive stance of “Yes”or “No” like Jews or Christians
And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, begotten of the Father, Light of Light, very God of very God, begotten, not made, consubstantial with the Father;
By whom all things were made
Who for us men, and for our salvation, came down and was incarnate and was made man;
He suffered, and the third day he rose again, ascended into heaven;
From thence he shall come to judge the quick and the dead.
And in the Holy Ghost.
why dont you think I believe, or rather why do you think we believe in different things
bothFor the religious brehs... who you got as your starting SG in game 6? God or Jordan?
Johnny Kilroy
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I didn’t say you know anything. You are searching.
If I could put in bible terms,
you’re in the wilderness
I’m in the promised land already
You’re literally trying to bring me back to Egypt
Why go backwards?
you haven’t answered what sparked your interest in Egypt and why studying it as a black man in 2021 is beneficial or relevant to your life today
Tell me why knowing about Egyptian Religions adds to existing faiths like Judaism or Christianity other than from a geographical cultural historical perspective
and no using scriptures or riddles. Use your own voice
The last sentence of this post intrigued me.
I’m curious, were you born and raised Christian? Have you ever practiced or truly studied any other theologies? Do you think you would still be Christian if you were born in, say, Mecca, Saudi Arabia?
And last but not least, and this is the question that relates to the last sentence, who taught you or where did you learn your interpretation of the Bible? Is it your own understanding or were you told what it meant?
What would yall say to this
Whats funny to me is how similar the reactions are
See IMO Satanism and Atheism are ultimately one and the same. Yet it's so subtle that you have to read/listen carefully to see how it happens.Genesis 3:1-5
the wild thing to me is that people dont understand why the serpent did not lie technically. You have to read it very slow and realize Adam's tongue is the serpent (tongue of malintent)
It is not clear how much time truly transpires between the moment they eat the fruit and God walks into the garden
1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:
3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.
4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
the wild thing to me is that people dont understand why the serpent did not lie technically. You have to read it very slow and realize Adam's tongue is the serpent (tongue of malintent)
It is not clear how much time truly transpires between the moment they eat the fruit and God walks into the garden
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DoubleClutch
Superstar
I think you’re confusing religion and culture people are born into with having a personal relationship with God
But logically if I’m deciding what God is the correct one, I can look at all the major world religions compare them and it’s pretty simple which is more credible
They all can’t be true.
There’s a point where everyone has to think for themselves and make a decision what they want to believe.
I wasn’t taught anything but I always questioned everything I was “taught” because that’s how you learn
These days I learn from my own life experiences and those experiences from others and apply it to what’s in the Bible and it makes sense to me.
Johnny Kilroy
79 points in 1 quarter
I think you’re confusing religion and culture people are born into with having a personal relationship with God
But logically if I’m deciding what God is the correct one, I can look at all the major world religions compare them and it’s pretty simple which is more credible
They all can’t be true.
There’s a point where everyone has to think for themselves and make a decision what they want to believe.
I wasn’t taught anything but I always questioned everything I was “taught” because that’s how you learn
These days I learn from my own life experiences and those experiences from others and apply it to what’s in the Bible and it makes sense to me.
I didn’t confuse anything, friend, I simply asked a few questions. I do appreciate the responses you did give.
Here’s a few follow up questions: do you think what you were taught had any bias when deciding “which God is more credible”?
Also, you never answered whether or not you ever seriously studied or practiced any other religions besides the one you were taught. You said “I can look...” but I’m asking if you have looked.
Do you think YHWH, Jehovah, Allah, God, etc are the same or different?
I think you’re confusing religion and culture people are born into with having a personal relationship with God
But logically if I’m deciding what God is the correct one, I can look at all the major world religions compare them and it’s pretty simple which is more credible
They all can’t be true.
There’s a point where everyone has to think for themselves and make a decision what they want to believe.
I wasn’t taught anything but I always questioned everything I was “taught” because that’s how you learn
These days I learn from my own life experiences and those experiences from others and apply it to what’s in the Bible and it makes sense to me.
technically everything is already declared...so the concept of "true and false" is negligible when enough time passes.
DoubleClutch
Superstar
I told you I wasn’t taught anything. I just go with what makes most sense (1 God) is historically accurate, and works for me personally. All of that is satisfied in Jesus.
I studied all religions as much as it’s needed for me to make a decision whether or not each is valid.
Someone else may need to study more or less to come to a conclusion or maybe they never will
But for me there’s a point when you’re sure of one thing you don’t need to go looking elsewhere
Like for example, I’m convinced Jordan is the best basketball player of all time
Even to the extent I don’t need to study lebron or even watch him play another NBA game, even though I might enjoy his game I’ll never see him as the GOAT
Someone who grew up a lebron fan may have a harder time seeing JORDAN from my perspective though.
That situation might be comparable to a Christian (Jordan fan) who grew up in a Muslim (Lebron) family and in a Muslim country (Cleveland).
DoubleClutch
Superstar
you dont have to view it as debateI’m not smart enough to to debate with you
while not utterly advocating for you to become jewish i do recommend you take a second viewpoint on how you read scripture. The word of God is heavy allegorically and literally. If you dont meditate on it, how can you say you know the spirit of the word who is the Lord Jesus Christ?
instead of looking at the banter as winning/losing...just view it as it is. Thats what I do. I usually think about things a second/third/fourth time and end up seeing different things each time...all applicable in some way to my life and even my thoughts and subconscious. Id rather help you perfect your faith than stymie it
if you truly believe in christology then its not a matter of God vs God but rather how has Jesus spoken to the world? Then you will see my view.
Johnny Kilroy
79 points in 1 quarter
I told you I wasn’t taught anything. I just go with what makes most sense (1 God) is historically accurate, and works for me personally. All of that is satisfied in Jesus.
I studied all religions as much as it’s needed for me to make a decision whether or not each is valid.
Someone else may need to study more or less to come to a conclusion or maybe they never will
But for me there’s a point when you’re sure of one thing you don’t need to go looking elsewhere
Like for example, I’m convinced Jordan is the best basketball player of all time
Even to the extent I don’t need to study lebron or even watch him play another NBA game, even though I might enjoy his game I’ll never see him as the GOAT
Someone who grew up a lebron fan may have a harder time seeing JORDAN from my perspective though.
That situation might be comparable to a Christian (Jordan fan) who grew up in a Muslim (Lebron) family and in a Muslim country (Cleveland).
Peace bro. Your basketball analogy is the very definition of bias. You just said you’ll never see LeBron as the GOAT, meaning your mind is already made up regardless of whatever new evidence is presented to you.
But anyways, my very first original question was were you born and raised Christian? How were you introduced to the different faiths you studied?