Bible Verse: Deuteronomy 18:18

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read it carefully and consider what ive posted

set snared you with this line:

Set did not speak that line. Afu Ra did. And neither are those Set's priest or his temple. Those are Afu Ra's. It is Afu Ra that is providing the way of salvation. Read it again.

There is parallelism going on.

Set causes damnation.
Afu Ra provides salvation.

 

[MMS]

Set did not speak that line. Afu Ra did. And neither are those Set's priest or his temple. Those are Afu Ra's. It is Afu Ra that is providing the way of salvation. Read it again.

There is parallelism going on.

Set causes damnation.
Afu Ra provides salvation.

nowhere does it say those things

read this part and consider it deeply

And, in the World of Men, Set caused temples to be builded to his sacred image, and he spake to living men through the mouths of his priests that they would know Him when they passed through the Sixth Gate, seeing in his hands all that they hoped for when yet they lived.

you must understand that the Egyptians deified the living and the dead in order to understand the way they are approaching wisdom

 

[MMS]

this post is very enlightening (CIA doc on Patterns) as it pertains to the discussion we are having in this thread @Dorian Gray
https://www.thecoli.com/posts/31162682/

the concept of witchcraft/sorcery is sorely misunderstood. To affect someone with words is to hex them...in other words. To use speech/writing for anything other than blessings is to practice some form of witchcraft.

With that in mind, much of the Bible starts looking different

Spoiler: relevant scripture

1st Corinthians 3

1 And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.

2 I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.

3 For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?

4 For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?

5 Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man?

6 I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.

7 So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.

8 Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour.

9 For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are God's building.

10 According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.

11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.

12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;

13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.

15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

18 Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise.

19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.

20 And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain.

21 Therefore let no man glory in men. For all things are your's;

22 Whether Paul, or Apollos, or Cephas, or the world, or life, or death, or things present, or things to come; all are your's;

23 And ye are Christ's; and Christ is God's.

 

[DoubleClutch]

Why do you say Moses was ‘A Nimrod’

Nimrod is the archetype of the "divine king" and king of kings (how they would declare themselves)

when Moses scribed with this nature (The lord spake unto me these things: "Thou shalt...)

Consider what he is saying to you the reader

Can a child be born with a Torah?

Exodus 7:1-6

Comparing Moses and Nimrod to say they are similar is about as bad as comparing Jesus and Muhammad

There’s nothing “Divine” about Nimrod or is it even suggested in the Bible

Nimrod was wicked. even Ghost-face Killah knew that

And Moses isn’t even “Divine” or a king. He’s just a man who was chosen and used by God because he was obedient (for the most part) and brave enough to trust in God and get the job done.

Moses is the character “Moses” he serves his role in the story


I think MMS is misunderstanding Moses role in the Egypt/Pharaoh story and focusing on this particular scripture/situation (his conversation with his father in law) to elevate Moses to that of GOD and treat him like say, how Christians view Jesus’ role/ relationship with God.

Or maybe make Moses a bad guy, I’m not even sure exactly

Maybe he’s showing how they can be opposites

like a “good guy” vs a “bad guy” in the same movie

but if this particular “story” is coming from the Bible writers, and directed by GOD than it’s clear who is who and why

Nimrod is an archetype of “evil”or “anti God” man made empires/rulers

Same as is the Tower of Babel
the pyramids of Egypt, Babylon/Roman Empire, etc.... all represent

All are clearly bad things when reading the Bible from a Judeo Christian perspective

But if you’re reading the Bible from MMS perspective anything is possible I guess

even the complete opposite

He can interpret a verse/story or book however he wants but it’s up to you to make sense of it in relation the larger story.

in this case it’s contradictory

 

[MMS]

Comparing Moses and Nimrod to say they are similar is about as bad as comparing Jesus and Muhammad

There’s nothing “Divine” about Nimrod or is it even suggested in the Bible

Nimrod was wicked. even Ghost-face Killah knew that

And Moses isn’t even “Divine” or a king. He’s just a man who was chosen and used by God because he was obedient (for the most part) and brave enough to trust in God and get the job done.

Moses is the character “Moses” he serves his role in the story


I think MMS is misunderstanding Moses role in the Egypt/Pharaoh story and focusing on this particular scripture/situation (his conversation with his father in law) to elevate Moses to that of GOD and treat him like say, how Christians view Jesus’ role/ relationship with God.

Or maybe make Moses a bad guy, I’m not even sure exactly

Maybe he’s showing how they can be opposites

like a “good guy” vs a “bad guy” in the same movie

but if this particular “story” is coming from the Bible writers, and directed by GOD than it’s clear who is who and why

Nimrod is an archetype of “evil”or “anti God” man made empires/rulers

Same as is the Tower of Babel
the pyramids of Egypt, Babylon/Roman Empire, etc.... all represent

All are clearly bad things when reading the Bible from a Judeo Christian perspective

But if you’re reading the Bible from MMS perspective anything is possible I guess

even the complete opposite

He can interpret a verse/story or book however he wants but it’s up to you to make sense of it in relation the larger story.

in this case it’s contradictory

What if the Tower of Babel represents the moment language changed in terms of rules? perhaps something fundamental was lost....consider this in light of eastern languages that use different types of characters.

you gotta dig deep to understand the fallacy that Moses had

also note the first line I posted

1 And the Lord said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet.

prophet of Moses or of the Lord?

consider his frustration now in light of this line when we have this as well

Golden calf - Wikipedia

Mnevis - Wikipedia

He had to compel them of a God they had not known up until that point (much of Egypt believed Re is God)

Let's consider the cows for a moment (i do not recommend falling down and worshipping them)
Book of the Heavenly Cow - Wikipedia

Spoiler

Cows were used as oracles in Egypt...they used the animals for divination and for prophecy

Remember Moses was apart of the Egyptian court, yet he took pity on the Hebrews and slew an Egyptian in anger which started his exile.

The difficulty in my interpretation is the passage of time in order to see how Exodus is playing out. Is it happening quickly? or over the entire time of the hebrew captivity?

 

[MMS]

@DoubleClutch the point im making is that Jethro was ultimately right

he created a precedent which lead to the creation of a priestly order of people who have decided they can judge for God are they not doing what he did?

He lead by example yet I'm sure he didnt truly consider the ramifications of what he told them as they went into Canaan. They survived which is a testament to the Lord working on them...but notice how this event has cascaded now throughout history

notice how you say: "But if you’re reading the Bible from MMS perspective anything is possible I guess"

And then I say

And the Mod said all these words saying,

I am the Lord thy Mod, who delivered you out of the land of SOHH, out of the house of Felicia

thou shalt have no other mods before me.

you would think I was crazy why dont people speak or write like this its the obvious answers that arent as fun but are usually true.

 

[DoubleClutch]

What if the Tower of Babel represents the moment language changed in terms of rules? perhaps something fundamental was lost....consider this in light of eastern languages that use different types of characters.

you gotta dig deep to understand the fallacy that Moses had

also note the first line I posted



prophet of Moses or of the Lord?

consider his frustration now in light of this line when we have this as well

Golden calf - Wikipedia

Mnevis - Wikipedia

He had to compel them of a God they had not known up until that point (much of Egypt believed Re is God)

Let's consider the cows for a moment (i do not recommend falling down and worshipping them)
Book of the Heavenly Cow - Wikipedia

Spoiler

Cows were used as oracles in Egypt...they used the animals for divination and for prophecy

Remember Moses was apart of the Egyptian court, yet he took pity on the Hebrews and slew an Egyptian in anger which started his exile.

The difficulty in my interpretation is the passage of time in order to see how Exodus is playing out. Is it happening quickly? or over the entire time of the hebrew captivity?

Yaweh made Moses a God to pharaoh

It’s like a figure speech that fits this story

He didn’t make Moses “Yahweh”

moses already knew yaweh as THE God since God had already revealed himself and Moses believes, hence him obeying Gods commands and not Ra or any other false Gods of Egypt

you can’t look into it so deep you’re going far off course with your imagination

it’s not Moses becoming a new God of Egypt or him replacing Yaweh

we have the rest of the story that continues throughout the Bible

but if you wanna focus on the word “God”

if you ask a Jewish person the the different meanings/translations in Hebrew it isn’t saying Moses is THE God or even divine (Moses dies)

it’s a representation of “God like” role or authority on earth over Pharaoh in that moment

God can’t make anyone God

God can just be God

Unless he’s making himself God in the form of Jesus

Now, that’s something you should be thinking deep into understanding

Aaron had his role under Moses on earth as a prophet who was delivering a message to Pharaoh

If Moses had be elevated to be a God in the eyes of pharaoh then Aaron can represent his prophet why not?

how can Moses be “god” to pharaoh and serve as a “prophet” to God at the same time? it’s a contradiction. It like separate characters in a story. There must be 2 different roles in this case. It had to make sense to the pharaoh

You gotta think of things from the pharaoh perspective and as it shows Egypt

you’re just focusing on Moses and branching outside of the story with new ideas/theories

I wonder why you’re so invested in Moses

who do you think he really is

 

[MMS]

Yaweh made Moses a God to pharaoh

It’s like a figure speech that fits this story

He didn’t make Moses “Yahweh”

moses already knew yaweh as THE God since God had already revealed himself and Moses believes, hence him obeying Gods commands and not Ra or any other false Gods of Egypt

you can’t look into it so deep you’re going far off course with your imagination

it’s not Moses becoming a new God of Egypt or him replacing Yaweh

we have the rest of the story that continues throughout the Bible

but if you wanna focus on the word “God”

if you ask a Jewish person the the different meanings/translations in Hebrew it isn’t saying Moses is THE God or even divine (Moses dies)

it’s a representation of “God like” role or authority on earth over Pharaoh in that moment

God can’t make anyone God

God can just be God

Unless he’s making himself God in the form of Jesus

Now, that’s something you should be thinking deep into understanding

Aaron had his role under Moses on earth as a prophet who was delivering a message to Pharaoh

If Moses had be elevated to be a God in the eyes of pharaoh then Aaron can represent his prophet why not?

how can Moses be “god” to pharaoh and serve as a “prophet” to God at the same time? it’s a contradiction. It like separate characters in a story. There must be 2 different roles in this case. It had to make sense to the pharaoh

You gotta think of things from the pharaoh perspective and as it shows Egypt

you’re just focusing on Moses and branching outside of the story with new ideas/theories

I wonder why you’re so invested in Moses

who do you think he really is

To understand the fallacy you have to read the afu ra and set parable again.

people did not judge god(s) before moses

Mankinds propensity to judge is satanic

John 3:14-18

14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:

15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

ask yourself this...why dont you slaughter lambs for your sins in a synagogue as Moses commanded you?

You say:

"God cant make anyone God"

God can just be God

Unless hes making himself God in the form of Jesus

why do you speak for God and what he can or cannot do?

one word Moses. Beware the snare of Set.

Language has been molested and the purity/spiritual aspects of it have been b*stardized since BC times.

I HIGHLY recommend you re-read the Exodus saga in light of the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Bakenranef - Wikipedia

Most writers, however, agree in stating that once a disease, which horribly disfigured the body, broke out over Egypt; that king Bocchoris, seeking a remedy, consulted the oracle of Hammon, and was bidden to cleanse his realm, and to convey into some foreign land this race detested by the gods. The people, who had been collected after diligent search, finding themselves left in a desert, sat for the most part in a stupor of grief, till one of the exiles, Moses by name, warned them not to look for any relief from God or man, forsaken as they were of both, but to trust to themselves, taking for their heaven-sent leader that man who should first help them to be quit of their present misery. They agreed, and in utter ignorance began to advance at random. Nothing, however, distressed them so much as the scarcity of water, and they had sunk ready to perish in all directions over the plain, when a herd of wild asses was seen to retire from their pasture to a rock shaded by trees. Moses followed them, and, guided by the appearance of a grassy spot, discovered an abundant spring of water. This furnished relief. After a continuous journey for six days, on the seventh they possessed themselves of a country, from which they expelled the inhabitants, and in which they founded a city and a temple.

— Tacitus, Histories, 5.3

 

[Okocha]

 

[MMS]

Thank you

this in essence shows the issue now at hand because of Moses.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

What do you mean by this?

The Quran is 'uncreated' and 'eternal'.

Sound familiar?​

 

[DoubleClutch]

To understand the fallacy you have to read the afu ra and set parable again.

people did not judge god(s) before moses

Mankinds propensity to judge is satanic

John 3:14-18



ask yourself this...why dont you slaughter lambs for your sins in a synagogue as Moses commanded you?

You say:



why do you speak for God and what he can or cannot do?

one word Moses. Beware the snare of Set.

Language has been molested and the purity/spiritual aspects of it have been b*stardized since BC times.

I HIGHLY recommend you re-read the Exodus saga in light of the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Bakenranef - Wikipedia

I dunno what you mean by “judge Gods” this is your own concept it interpretation of the story outside of what the true message is

if you don’t know why we don’t slaughter lambs for forgiveness today maybe you don’t understand Gods plan

I’m not speaking for God I was being sarcastic

nobody understands God or sees Yaweh in the Bible the same

it’s up to you to get it

I don’t see any issues in the Moses pharaoh story

you’re just using this particular story, going deep into insignificant details, reaching and creating a new narrative that supports your Kemetic beliefs while tearing down and twisting the Torah

it’s no different than what Islam already does with the Bible

You using scriptures and major Bible figures doesn’t make it any more believable

make your same point using sources outside of the Bible books or depending on any other religion/faith and I’ll be more open to believe it as the argument would be original

 

[MMS]

I dunno what you mean by “judge Gods” this is your own concept it interpretation of the story outside of what the true message is

if you don’t know why we don’t slaughter lambs for forgiveness today maybe you don’t understand Gods plan

I’m not speaking for God I was being sarcastic

nobody understands God or sees Yaweh in the Bible the same

it’s up to you to get it

I don’t see any issues in the Moses pharaoh story

you’re just using this particular story, going deep into insignificant details, reaching and creating a new narrative that supports your Kemetic beliefs while tearing down and twisting the Torah

it’s no different than what Islam already does with the Bible

You using scriptures and major Bible figures doesn’t make it any more believable

make your same point using sources outside of the Bible books or depending on any other religion/faith and I’ll be more open to believe it as the argument would be original

let me reinterpret some things so you see what I see:

You still do slaughter lambs.

Spoiler

Thou shalt not kill.

Yet people feast on flesh

the "altar" was where they killed animals before God. If we are all dust...to kill and eat an animal is in essence cannibalism.

24 An altar of earth thou shalt make unto me, and shalt sacrifice thereon thy burnt offerings, and thy peace offerings, thy sheep, and thine oxen: in all places where I record my name I will come unto thee, and I will bless thee.

25 And if thou wilt make me an altar of stone, thou shalt not build it of hewn stone: for if thou lift up thy tool upon it, thou hast polluted it.

26 Neither shalt thou go up by steps unto mine altar, that thy nakedness be not discovered thereon.

The fat of America is so great that this is completely looked past...How many people would engorge themselves with meat if they had to slay each animal they feasted on

you say I twist scripture...no.. I have no church nor do I expect you to believe what I believe. God shows you what he shows you

Churches who are concerned with control are concerned with how things are painted and represented

the truth is easy. The neat thing I realized about the fallacy of language is perspective and perception.

Letters and characters require more rules to be understood and perceived than say pictures...who use other means to guide the viewer.

IMO this is why Egypt used Hieroglyphs rather than characters. The confusion of the languages imo starts and ends right here.

 

[DoubleClutch]

let me reinterpret some things so you see what I see:

You still do slaughter lambs.

Spoiler

Yet people feast on flesh

the "altar" was where they killed animals before God. If we are all dust...to kill and eat an animal is in essence cannibalism.



The fat of America is so great that this is completely looked past...How many people would engorge themselves with meat if they had to slay each animal they feasted on

you say I twist scripture...no.. I have no church nor do I expect you to believe what I believe. God shows you what he shows you

Churches who are concerned with control are concerned with how things are painted and represented

the truth is easy. The neat thing I realized about the fallacy of language is perspective and perception.

Letters and characters require more rules to be understood and perceived than say pictures...who use other means to guide the viewer.

IMO this is why Egypt used Hieroglyphs rather than characters. The confusion of the languages imo starts and ends right here.

You’re mixing history with religion and fantasy

like I said in many posts before you’ll believe in everything which is the same as believing in nothing

which is ok. It’s your life and beliefs

But when your personal beliefs contradicts literally everything written in the SAME books you’re using to support you beliefs how do you expect anyone to believe you or take it seriously

I’m as open minded as any Christian but for me there’s had to be a line drawn somewhere

if we are debating religion I’m sure everyone can agree there’s 1 God

and logically only 1 truth

it ain’t in both Egypt and Israel

 

[MMS]

You’re mixing history with religion and fantasy

like I said in many posts before you’ll believe in everything which is the same as believing in nothing

which is ok. It’s your life and beliefs

But when your personal beliefs contradicts literally everything written in the SAME books you’re using to support you beliefs how do you expect anyone to believe you or take it seriously

I’m as open minded as any Christian but for me there’s had to be a line drawn somewhere

if we are debating religion I’m sure everyone can agree there’s 1 God

and logically only 1 truth

it ain’t in both Egypt and Israel

Spoiler: scooby snack jurassic plastic gas booby trap

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/the-little-known-biblical-curse-of-egypt-by-isaiah.776717/

The Book of the Prophet Isaiah 19:16-25

16 In that day Egypt will be like women, and will be afraid and fear because of the waving of the hand of the Lord of hosts, which He waves over it.

17 And the land of Judah will be a terror to Egypt; everyone who makes mention of it will be afraid in himself, because of the counsel of the Lord of hosts which He has determined against it.

18 In that day five cities in the land of Egypt will speak the language of Canaan and swear by the Lord of hosts; one will be called the City of [g]Destruction.

19 In that day there will be an altar to the Lord in the midst of the land of Egypt, and a pillar to the Lord at its border.

20 And it will be for a sign and for a witness to the Lord of hosts in the land of Egypt; for they will cry to the Lord because of the oppressors, and He will send them a Savior and a Mighty One, and He will deliver them.

21 Then the Lord will be known to Egypt, and the Egyptians will know the Lord in that day, and will make sacrifice and offering; yes, they will make a vow to the Lord and perform it.

22 And the Lord will strike Egypt, He will strike and heal it; they will return to the Lord, and He will be entreated by them and heal them.

23 In that day there will be a highway from Egypt to Assyria, and the Assyrian will come into Egypt and the Egyptian into Assyria, and the Egyptians will serve with the Assyrians.

24 In that day Israel will be one of three with Egypt and Assyria—a blessing in the midst of the land,

25 whom the Lord of hosts shall bless, saying, “Blessed is Egypt My people, and Assyria the work of My hands, and Israel My inheritance.”

Spoiler: whats he holding