Better defensive mind: Bill Belichick or Rex Ryan?

[Absolut]

then we got a guy using points per game as a ranking of defense

 

[RiffRaff]

does more with much less.

Shouldn't that be taken into consideration though? Beli handpicking a lot of guys he puts on the field.

 

[CodeBlaMeVi]

then we got a guy using points per game as a ranking of defense

Isn't that what matters most? Keep the other team from scoring more than your team?

 

[Roid Jones]

DOESNT BELI HAVE 6 RINGS?
2 AS DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR OF THE GIANTS?





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I bet some of these brehs don't even know that

 

[Roid Jones]

Yoooooo

 

[PremierDaTruth]

This should not even be this close, I though TheColi as a collective whole was better than this

 

[RhodyRum]

Isn't that what matters most? Keep the other team from scoring more than your team?

I dunno who told these cats that yards gets more of an emphasis over points in defensive football. Sure the idiot talking heads on TV make it seem so, but I recall being a 19 year old kid, sitting in an auditorium with my teammates in college in August listening to the first legit DC I ever had lay the foundation of our defensive philosophy. This young, cocky, crazy mofo couldn't stop emphasising one point: I don't care how many yards we give up, points must be held to a minimum, that the only stat he cares about is DPA. By the time camp was over, that message was so ingrained that those of us who've gone on to coach defense from that team would emphasise the same thing to our players years later. That DC has moved on to brighter & better things from coaching 1aa players in the smallest state in the US. He's now one of the foremost defensive minds in the college game who I'm sure we'll one day see in the league.

And in case you're wondering who that influential DC was, he's currently a HC at an ACC school. It was UPitt's Pat Narduzzi.

 

[Ineedmoney504]

Some of you be posting without FACTS.
NFL Defensive Rankings <------ See that Link right there? click it, see how their Defenses have Ranked AFTER spygate.

2014
Patriots Ranked 8
Jets Ranked 24

2013
Patriots Ranked 10
Jets Ranked 19

2012
Patriots Ranked 9
Jets Ranked 20

2011
Patriots Ranked 15
Jets Ranked 20

2010
Patriots Ranked 8
Jets Ranked 6

2009
Patriots Ranked 5
Jets Ranked 1

2008
Patriots Ranked 8
Ravens Ranked 3

2007
Patriots Ranked 4
Ravens Ranked 22

Name me how many Hall of famers other than Maybe Revis for a year that have played for the Patriots on defense since spygate.... I'll Wait, never had no Ray Lewis, Haloti Ngata, Ed Reed, Terrell Suggs, Michael McCrary, Peter Boulware, Revis for 4 Years and them. did it with undrafted Free Agents and cast offs for the most part.

wilfork was on them teams, but I agree wit u. Beli and it ain't close

 

[Raquinotj]

wilfork was on them teams, but I agree wit u. Beli and it ain't close

Harrison was and them but the personnel Rex has worked with >>> Beli

 

[Dominic Brehetto]

You can't guarantee nonsense like this either. Your guarantees are only working on this notion that you want Rex to be better than Beli (for whatever reason), on some illusory correlation shyt. It's not as simple as looking at defensive rankings either i) they don't take into account what happens in the postseason ii) they don't take into account the fact that Beli isn't strictly a DC iii) they don't take into account the fluctuation of talent that comes and goes with being in an environment of parity and chance.

I want you to list me all the great defenses that Rex has under his belt, without the aid of great defensive players.

Which great defenses has belli had without the aid of great defensive players?

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Which great defenses has belli had without the aid of great defensive players?

I think you need to go back and read the conversation.

 

[Geek Nasty]

All Belichick stats are suspect. I like Rex.

 

[Geek Nasty]

Dude would always do some dumb shyt blitz Ray and Jarrett Johnson and drop Suggs & Ngata into coverage on 3rd and long

That's the zone blitz breh

 

[Rekkapryde]

theme

 

[NYC Rebel]

theme

You as a 49er fan are REALLY forgetting what he did to those 80s squads???