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Beto is a loser
Most of the prospects ive seen have been losers..
There are Winners who probably wont get pushed to the top cuz of how Machine Acting the Dems are.
I seen an ad today about "The Democratic Agenda" or some shyt, highlighting health care, immigration , anti trump, n stuff... And it basically zoomed over everyone else and Focused on damn NansyPolosi, lol

Freshness... Will defeat trump. A SPECIFIC focus on Black Issues will defeat Trump... Trump will lose the Popular vote but we are in America (electoral college is a fair system)..... He won't lose if the Dems make the same mistake Again and have black people not turn up in places like Michigan

Trump is not winning Michigan and Pennsylvania again, midterms 2018 results were definitely a rebuke on him in both of those states.
 

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what about Wisconsin....? if trump wins that plus all the other states he won he'd be reelected.....

Wisconsin is a toss-up as would be Ohio and Florida. But Right now, it is not in Trump's pocket and could go either way.

Arizona is also in play now too.

I was saying, Trump is definitely losing Michigan and Pennsylvania in 2020 if he runs. The path to victory for a democrat is assured if they put in the work in Wisconsin (even moreso than Florida, Ohio and now Arizona).
 

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Midterms rarely indicate unseating the incumbent president in modern politics..ex 1994, 2002, 2010 midterms...

Usually true but look at those 2018 midterm numbers again in those states, those margins in Pennsylvania and Michigan are telling and he barely won those states in 2016.

Its highly unlikely he pulls that off again.
 
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Usually true but look again at those 2016 midterm numbers again in those states, those margins in Pennsylvania and Michigan are telling and he barely won those states in 2016.

Its highly unlikely he pulls that off again.

Same situation with Clinton (needed Ross Perot in '92 to defeat HW), Bush 2000 (Floriduh voting fiasco), and Obama (barely beat Mccain in key states)...Reminds me of those who claim Mueller investigation would lead to impeachment and jail for Trump...Corporations are making record profits these days, aside from kicking the bucket, nothing in the traditional political sense is stopping Trump's reelection, especially if you are counting on Dems to run a traditional cadidate at the top of the ticket
 

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i also find it hard to believe a loser at the state level would be the next president but, it's very hard to win as a Lib in Democrat.

florida on the other hand...
 

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Beto is the 6th most Trump-supporting Democrat in the House and he's gonna sweep up support from the progressive base? :usure:
 

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Beto is a loser
Most of the prospects ive seen have been losers..
There are Winners who probably wont get pushed to the top cuz of how Machine Acting the Dems are.
I seen an ad today about "The Democratic Agenda" or some shyt, highlighting health care, immigration , anti trump, n stuff... And it basically zoomed over everyone else and Focused on damn NansyPolosi, lol

Freshness... Will defeat trump. A SPECIFIC focus on Black Issues will defeat Trump... Trump will lose the Popular vote but we are in America (electoral college is a fair system)..... He won't lose if the Dems make the same mistake Again and have black people not turn up in places like Michigan
A focus on black issues will defeat Trump:skip:
 

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Midterms rarely indicate unseating the incumbent president in modern politics..ex 1994, 2002, 2010 midterms...
those midterms didnt have turnout comparable to a presidential election. dems got almost as many votes this year as trump did in 2016.
also why did you include 2002? gop gained seats in that election
 
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