Besides I.T. what choices does a drop out have? GEMS INSIDE

[Ducktales]

Just yesterday you were clowning an old head for needing a ride home from work and here you sit, a young self-loathing no p*ssy getting f*cking dropout. And now we can add a hypocrite as well. Dumbass. Get your GED and take your ass to a dope HBCU, sit down, and STFU for four good years. You’ll thank me later.

 

[Marc Spector]

1. okay so the A+ is very entry level and focuses on hardware. But you DO need to know the information, However going through the course and taking the exam isn’t the the most practical way to learn and to show you understand it. First thing is to BUILD your own pc. You will learn everything you’ll need to know just by going through this process.

2. Understanding where we are going technologically. E.g AWS, Azure, google cloud. They all have free tiers. sign up for a few, watch some google videos and familiarize yourself with these platforms.

3. NETWORKING. I don’t mean in the sense of meeting people(although important) I mean IT networking. Understand the protocols, what they do, the OSI model, IP model. How information flows from one place to another. This is important since having a general understanding of this will help you understand everything else. Spin up a home lab, set up a dhcp server, dns server, iscsi , install AD. This is all sysadmin work so you don’t need to be superstrong at it but will help greatly.

4. programming languages. You don’t need to be super strong with this either, but have to understand IT and programming is now hand and hand with one another. Google scripts(Java script), AWS(cli interface, python, etc.), automation(docker, Jenkins), devops. spend a few familiarizing yourself with a programming language.

5. familiarize with business apps. Office, SAP, spreadsheets, etc.

6. once you have gotten decent understanding of hardware concepts, networking concepts, cloud concepts, software applications concepts. Pick TWO compatible ones and dig deeper. E.g. Networking and security or AWS and Automation(scripting). IT is huggggeee. you’re not going to know everything or be strong at everything. Companies know this. Just familiarize yourself with as much of the concepts as you can then pick 2 that interest you most and key in on those.

For me it’s Cloud platforms(AWS, google cloud), scripting(JavaScript, python, sql) and some Networking. My job knew i wasn’t strong in JavaScript or SQL. I’m more familiar with python and AWS. But once you understand one going to another isn’t difficult. They are literally training me in JavaScript and SQL. Just because I already have an understanding of other languages.

And to add this is a good summation of the skills needed to learn in IT...

We could have whole nother topic on job domain.

The difference Network/Security support vs Engineering, Pen testing, Blue team/Hunt teams, Incident Response, Dev Ops, SoftDev, ISSO, Info Assurance, Network Admin, Sys Admin, Front End and Back End Dev....thats an entirely other animal right there.

 

[Carlton Banks]

The tech industry doesn't hire black people.

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/jus...e-truth-about-coding-programming-jobs.803095/

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/the...-entry-level-job-is-nearly-impossible.809073/


I fell for that bullshyt awhile back. They're just selling you a dream. It really just comes down to trucking, trades or sales.

 

[Paper Boi]

why did you drop out

same reason you can't find no women?

the real answer is to go back to school if possible if you can.

 

[SAINT]

And to add this is a good summation of the skills needed to learn in IT...

We could have whole nother topic on job domain.

The difference Network/Security support vs Engineering, Pen testing, Blue team/Hunt teams, Incident Response, Dev Ops, SoftDev, ISSO, Info Assurance, Network Admin, Sys Admin, Front End and Back End Dev....thats an entirely other animal right there.

mannnn thats the great and scary thing about IT there's so many branches and each branch has like 20 more specific branches. Its up to the individual to figure out their path, I see too many capable people get stuck in a simple help desk role when theres soooooo much more out there in the field. Most us still do have to do daily "help desk" shyt, but don't let that be what you aspire to only do.

 

[Afro]

The tech industry doesn't hire black people.

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/jus...e-truth-about-coding-programming-jobs.803095/

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/the...-entry-level-job-is-nearly-impossible.809073/


I fell for that bullshyt awhile back. They're just selling you a dream. It really just comes down to trucking, trades or sales.

I was gonna let you cook, but nah not this time.

Just because you let yourself fail, doesn't mean that will be the same path for everyone else.

A lot of these companies don't like to hire PERIOD. They will grind whoever they already have into dust first.

You take a glance at the WebDev Reddit, plenty of people will be saying how they had to apply to jobs for MONTHS before getting a job.

Others had less trouble because they have experience , degrees, and/or certs. Yes being white helped I'm sure, but a look at LinkedIn tells me Brehs and Brehettes do make it.

No one is going to hire you because you followed tutorials and commit to Github once every few months.

Between everyone screaming Programming and IT are the wave, schools pushing STEM more, and overseas competition, yea MFer it's gonna be rough no matter your skin color.


I'm one of the people @situationlines is speaking of, I've been on Help Desk for six years now. So don't think I'm waaaay up in the food chain, like I forgot what it was like in the trenches.

I've seen enough dumbasses leap frog me because they had degrees or certs but couldn't solve basic ass shyt. Like they couldn't figure out how to change a printer's IP address to join it to a network.

Dude had just received his bachelor's in Cyber Security. I have plenty of stories like that.

But I recognize it's my fault, yea these companies could have invested in me, but usually toss me to the "we got a body and thats all" pile because I don't have any current certs or a degree.

Is being Black a part of it? Sure, in some ways, I've had a CTO laugh at me when I asked for a raise, because I was doing TWO jobs, IT tech and handling the entire Meridian phone system for a Hospital. It was deemed not important in his eyes. The coworker that just got his bachelors, leaped over me and another dude and was made a Level II. At his first IT job ever.

Unless you demonstrate some skills through certs and apply it to their company, you have a bachelor's or you create business applications (I'm drawing out a small Knowledge Base web app for my current job. Not for them, for myself).

Yes, you will be Help Desk food. End of story.

End of rant, do better








P.S. I lied, do all that for the RIGHT company though, not all of them deserve your best. Some are legit shyt to work for, so if you don't get a job somewhere, count it as a blessing. My coworkers at this new place are consolidating their fiefdoms and not sharing knowledge, creating a big problem with our documentation. And the Managers are like .

But the bosses created the problem and this culture so .

IT is rough grind, but the pay off is worth it. Even at my level, I can leave and get another job easy.

But for Help Desk again so I'm finally changing that.

 

[LV Koopa]

I was gonna let you cook, but nah not this time.

Just because you let yourself fail, doesn't mean that will be the same path for everyone else.

A lot of these companies don't like to hire PERIOD. They will grind whoever they already have into dust first.

You take a glance at the WebDev Reddit, plenty of people will be saying how they had to apply to jobs for MONTHS before getting a job.

Others had less trouble because they have experience , degrees, and/or certs. Yes being white helped I'm sure, but a look at LinkedIn tells me Brehs and Brehettes do make it.

No one is going to hire you because you followed tutorials and commit to Github once every few months.

Between everyone screaming Programming and IT are the wave, schools pushing STEM more, and overseas competition, yea MFer it's gonna be rough no matter your skin color.


I'm one of the people @situationlines is speaking of, I've been on Help Desk for six years now. So don't think I'm waaaay up in the food chain, like I forgot what it was like in the trenches.

I've seen enough dumbasses leap frog me because they had degrees or certs but couldn't solve basic ass shyt. Like they couldn't figure out how to change a printer's IP address to join it to a network.

Dude had just received his bachelor's in Cyber Security. I have plenty of stories like that.

But I recognize it's my fault, yea these companies could have invested in me, but usually toss me to the "we got a body and thats all" pile because I don't have any current certs or a degree.

Is being Black a part of it? Sure, in some ways, I've had a CTO laugh at me when I asked for a raise, because I was doing TWO jobs, IT tech and handling the entire Meridian phone system for a Hospital. It was deemed not important in his eyes. The coworker that just got his bachelors, leaped over me and another dude and was made a Level II. At his first IT job ever.

Unless you demonstrate some skills through certs and apply it to their company, you have a bachelor's or you create business applications (I'm drawing out a small Knowledge Base web app for my current job. Not for them, for myself).

Yes, you will be Help Desk food. End of story.

End of rant, do better








P.S. I lied, do all that for the RIGHT company though, not all of them deserve your best. Some are legit shyt to work for, so if you don't get a job somewhere, count it as a blessing. My coworkers at this new place are consolidating their fiefdoms and not sharing knowledge, creating a big problem with our documentation. And the Managers are like .

But the bosses created the problem and this culture so .

IT is rough grind, but the pay off is worth it. Even at my level, I can leave and get another job easy.

But for Help Desk again so I'm finally changing that.

jesus this is half diss track half a dear Diary entry

 

[Mandarin Duck]

State Jobs.

Look for state jobs in your state that don't require much experience.

 

[hatealot]

Public service jobs or trade school jobs.


If you are in a large city a job as light as an office manager can pay coins also.


I didn’t even know my homegirl was making 80K being a receptionist but that’s all luck tho.

Those jobs are dominated by women. He is not getting in those roles

 

[NinoBrown]

The tech industry doesn't hire black people.

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/jus...e-truth-about-coding-programming-jobs.803095/

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/the...-entry-level-job-is-nearly-impossible.809073/


I fell for that bullshyt awhile back. They're just selling you a dream. It really just comes down to trucking, trades or sales.

Nope...this ain't it. Sys Engineer now, did an internship while at college, and did consultant work for xp....

Stop spreading lies, Tech requires discipline and focus which OP doesn't have so far...Just excuses...

 

[UberEatsDriver]

Those jobs are dominated by women. He is not getting in those roles

Yea I know I was speaking in general. Also if you are a fakkit it might help

 

[hatealot]

Yea I know I was speaking in general. Also if you are a fakkit it might help

Sometimes you have to break your wrist a few times and stretch your Ssss to get in the building. I had a interview with square and both the managers interviewing me were gay. They kept talking about diversity the whole recruiting process and LGBT this and that. I came to realize they were looking for a black gay man for the role to check those boxes. Square has a very open gay recruiting process.

 

[humminbird]

Sometimes you have to break your wrist a few times and stretch your Ssss to get in the building. I had a interview with square and both the managers interviewing me were gay. They kept talking about diversity the whole recruiting process and LGBT this and that. I came to realize they were looking for a black gay man for the role to check those boxes. Square has a very open gay recruiting process.

so did you get the job?

 

[hatealot]

so did you get the job?

They had this playing through out the whole office in their Midtown Atlanta office. No lies being told.

Spoiler: Did I get the job?

No sadly I didn't, itbpaid 45k for a customer advocate role, but I ended getting a better offer for more money at another company.

 

[patscorpio]

The tech industry doesn't hire black people.

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/jus...e-truth-about-coding-programming-jobs.803095/

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/the...-entry-level-job-is-nearly-impossible.809073/


I fell for that bullshyt awhile back. They're just selling you a dream. It really just comes down to trucking, trades or sales.

I was gonna let you cook, but nah not this time.

Just because you let yourself fail, doesn't mean that will be the same path for everyone else.

A lot of these companies don't like to hire PERIOD. They will grind whoever they already have into dust first.

You take a glance at the WebDev Reddit, plenty of people will be saying how they had to apply to jobs for MONTHS before getting a job.

Others had less trouble because they have experience , degrees, and/or certs. Yes being white helped I'm sure, but a look at LinkedIn tells me Brehs and Brehettes do make it.

No one is going to hire you because you followed tutorials and commit to Github once every few months.

Between everyone screaming Programming and IT are the wave, schools pushing STEM more, and overseas competition, yea MFer it's gonna be rough no matter your skin color.


I'm one of the people @situationlines is speaking of, I've been on Help Desk for six years now. So don't think I'm waaaay up in the food chain, like I forgot what it was like in the trenches.

I've seen enough dumbasses leap frog me because they had degrees or certs but couldn't solve basic ass shyt. Like they couldn't figure out how to change a printer's IP address to join it to a network.

Dude had just received his bachelor's in Cyber Security. I have plenty of stories like that.

But I recognize it's my fault, yea these companies could have invested in me, but usually toss me to the "we got a body and thats all" pile because I don't have any current certs or a degree.

Is being Black a part of it? Sure, in some ways, I've had a CTO laugh at me when I asked for a raise, because I was doing TWO jobs, IT tech and handling the entire Meridian phone system for a Hospital. It was deemed not important in his eyes. The coworker that just got his bachelors, leaped over me and another dude and was made a Level II. At his first IT job ever.

Unless you demonstrate some skills through certs and apply it to their company, you have a bachelor's or you create business applications (I'm drawing out a small Knowledge Base web app for my current job. Not for them, for myself).

Yes, you will be Help Desk food. End of story.

End of rant, do better








P.S. I lied, do all that for the RIGHT company though, not all of them deserve your best. Some are legit shyt to work for, so if you don't get a job somewhere, count it as a blessing. My coworkers at this new place are consolidating their fiefdoms and not sharing knowledge, creating a big problem with our documentation. And the Managers are like .

But the bosses created the problem and this culture so .

IT is rough grind, but the pay off is worth it. Even at my level, I can leave and get another job easy.

But for Help Desk again so I'm finally changing that.

he knows but when you have no accountability for yourself, you point fingers...he's weak in his mind and spirit...you hate to see it