NZA
LOL
bernie lost his influence years ago. his sheepdog act isnt really moving the needle anymore
Bernie Sanders' Message to Voters About Gaza
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Nigerianwonder
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Exactly!
Just be honest that you are voting for her anyway, no matter what her policy is on the Gaza issue. This attempt to lie and state it would be worse under Trump, when both Parties openly support what Israel is doing, is asinine and disingenuous in the extreme. No matter which party is in office, Israel is going to get what it wants from the US.
Let's not forget that all of this is already happening under her watch and with her consent as the VP of the US.
When has pushing a presidential candidate after the election ever worked? Honestly?
There is nothing I have seen that demonstrates that Kamala is movable, on THIS issue. Her current boss has been immovable on THIS issue.
Logically valid reasons to vote for Kamala:
1. Palestine is fukked anyways, but I care about domestic policy and I hate Trump
2. Palestine is fukked anyways, and that's great, I hate Palestinians. Go Zionists!
Saying Kamala is better than Trump on Palestine is saying a gunshot wound is worse than an abdomen knife stab. Ok, you're still dying, so thanks for that. Why insult our intelligence by even suggesting it? Just say she is a Zionist lover and won't be budging on that, and they're fukked either way (which they are)?
And accept that some people will not vote based on that, write them off as an understandable loss of your policy, and hope that the other voters are enough to get you over the line. And if they aren't, and you lose to Trump, you can whine and bytch in your memoirs? And if you win, we can in hindsight laugh in 4 years at the suggestion that Kamala was "better' for the Palestinians than Trump.
I'm not voting but I don't live in a swing state and my state's EC votes are going to Kamala anyways.
There is nothing I have seen that demonstrates that Kamala is movable, on THIS issue. Her current boss has been immovable on THIS issue.
Logically valid reasons to vote for Kamala:
1. Palestine is fukked anyways, but I care about domestic policy and I hate Trump
2. Palestine is fukked anyways, and that's great, I hate Palestinians. Go Zionists!
Saying Kamala is better than Trump on Palestine is saying a gunshot wound is worse than an abdomen knife stab. Ok, you're still dying, so thanks for that. Why insult our intelligence by even suggesting it? Just say she is a Zionist lover and won't be budging on that, and they're fukked either way (which they are)?
And accept that some people will not vote based on that, write them off as an understandable loss of your policy, and hope that the other voters are enough to get you over the line. And if they aren't, and you lose to Trump, you can whine and bytch in your memoirs? And if you win, we can in hindsight laugh in 4 years at the suggestion that Kamala was "better' for the Palestinians than Trump.
I'm not voting but I don't live in a swing state and my state's EC votes are going to Kamala anyways.
quit spinning and just answer the question breh.
IDGAF about your disingenuous gotchas.
Does the VP have any power in regard to changing Israel policy?
Or are they a glorified diplomat/senior adviser to the president?
MoshpitMazi
Moshpit Gxng/ Anti Fash
So supporting trump whos even worse isn't wild ?
I think it is perfectly fine for Palestinians and those aligned with them to choose this path. They are the ones with family and friends over there suffering because of the support the US is giving to Israel. So they have a valid reason to not support the campaign of Kamala Harris, since her party is the one in power while this is happening.
Will it change anything if Trump is in office, no. Still, if they want to punish the Democrats for supporting the killings of their family and friends, then so be it.
MoshpitMazi
Moshpit Gxng/ Anti Fash
Then don't feel bad when people continue to not give AF when Harris wins
She is in the very party that is supporting the Policy. Yes, she has the power to not align herself with it, but she is not mentally strong enough to do that. She will also not be strong enough to do it as a President. She is not even strong enough to give direct answers for most questions. She is really just an empty Democratic body to use by the Party to push its own policies. Since those policies will be to place in more liberal judges, she will be able to do that since that is what they will tell her to do.
If she was really a woman who could stand on principle, she would have came out against the genocide happening and stated right out that as President, she will stop the flow of weapons and funds to Israel, instead seeking a peaceful means of ending the conflict.
I know why I have voted for her, but I am not going to set here and act like she is something she isn't.
The present administration that Kamala is a part of, has overseen the current catastrophe in Gaza. If this is a primary issue to you it's very possible to be indifferent if Trump wins. Little changes on this issue.
Then don't feel bad when people continue to not give AF when Harris wins
We know people aren't going to give a fukk regardless. You had ghouls screaming in the face of people at the DNC saying fukk the genocide. You had the DNC denying them a voice. You have them being kicked out of rallies. You have people in this thread saying slow genocide is worth voting for, over fast genocide. You have the current administration not giving a fukk. Do you honestly think if Arab Americans kumbaya-ed to the polls and won the election for Kamala she would do an about face and end the war and push for a permanent 2 state solution?
Why should voters give a fukk about a country that has demonstrated it doesn't give a fukk about them?
She's running for president. Biden is a lame duck (sort of). She has had plenty of opportunities to distance herself from Biden on this issue. She hasn't, AT ALL. You're blindly believing that she's going to change course once elected. Others are believing their eyes and ears.