Beanie Sigel Reveals Jay-Z Wrote For Memphis Bleek and Says Jay-Z Always Cheated For Memphis Bleek. || The Art Of Dialogue

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Dame said it lol. Not just in Jaz situation but many situations. He said if Jay wanted someone fired he always made him do it. If he presented any deals Dame was the one to do it and Jay and Biggs sign off but he said he always had to take the lead because they (especially Jay) didn’t want it. I used to have a video show on public access in the 90’s that ran til ‘02 and interviewed Jaz as well as others at that time, Mic Geronimo, Royal Flush, BCC, etc. there should also be a video on YT with Jaz saying exactly what I am said and I will be glad to look it up for you. I am not arguing either way because I wasn’t in the room with them simply saying it’s not true because you only hear one side being told.
That’s the problem one side is talking

And it’s believed

If Jay came out on a podcast tour saying his side

It would be seen as punching down and him being foul


Am I wrong?
 

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Who on planet Earth thinks Bleek wrote this verse? :heh:


Bleek said he wrote every verse he ever did except Coming of Age. I was never impressed with Bleek but some songs he did come thru. This song sounds like Jay but that don’t mean he wrote it. When you are around someone like that that is a heavy influence. I have to give him the benefit of the doubt and I am not taking anyone like Beans word for it since he said he has no proof it.
 

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Idk dude claims to have worked to roc a fella and is from Harlem.

People gotta stop with the “nobody can be bigger then Jay”

When we talking bout dudes who had no damn shot at being bigger at all.

In real time beans, jaz or sauce every had a shot at being bigger then Jay.

Jay went and saved jaz from a cult and restarted his career. Foolish to think he was hating on him.

Yall miss the point a lot. Just because someone isn’t as talented doesn’t mean people don’t feel pressure from them. Happens not only in entertainment but in sports. We will always have these debates because people are going to take up for who they like. Like when Rell said Jay acted funny style towards dudes that was getting broads and nikkas called Rell all kinds of dusty but then later what did Bun say? Everything gotta be cut and dry with people. “Jay with a Billie and this dude broke so he possibly could not have felt threatened by him”. Smh. NONE of these people, Jay, Dame, Jaz, any of them can say they were perfect and did EVERYTHING straight up no bullshyt. Jay wasn’t always on top there were times when he was on eye level with everyone else around.
 

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That’s the problem one side is talking

And it’s believed

If Jay came out on a podcast tour saying his side

It would be seen as punching down and him being foul


Am I wrong?

No, at this point would be seen as defense. Like Joe Budden said Jay called him and told him to put it out there that the Beans legal story was a lie. Oschino said if he Jay Z why he care what I say so bad? Also several others said the exact same thing and if I am not mistaken Beans said it himself so they all lying on him?
 

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Yall miss the point a lot. Just because someone isn’t as talented doesn’t mean people don’t feel pressure from them. Happens not only in entertainment but in sports. We will always have these debates because people are going to take up for who they like. Like when Rell said Jay acted funny style towards dudes that was getting broads and nikkas called Rell all kinds of dusty but then later what did Bun say? Everything gotta be cut and dry with people. “Jay with a Billie and this dude broke so he possibly could not have felt threatened by him”. Smh. NONE of these people, Jay, Dame, Jaz, any of them can say they were perfect and did EVERYTHING straight up no bullshyt. Jay wasn’t always on top there were times when he was on eye level with everyone else around.
Jaz got mad Jay put him last on Jigga What

thats hate at it’s finest there
 

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That’s the problem one side is talking

And it’s believed

If Jay came out on a podcast tour saying his side

It would be seen as punching down and him being foul


Am I wrong?

Start at 5:03 mark
He says Jay wasn’t even there, only Dame and they offered him $150k BUDGET. No advance, no budget control, no P.O., nothing. I am not saying Jaz needed the biggest deal but they were clearly trying to fukk him on this because he was a valuable producer, writer, and artist at the time. Mic Geronimo and Royal Flush had OPEN BUDGETS of 2-3x that much and they were two artists on a small Indy that was parented by a company that had NO RAP prior to! Flush paid his producers more than Jaz whole deal was worth :mjlol:

In current day Jaz when speaking on the topic is more politically correct because the man is already down and out. He don’t even have a distro deal.

 

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Start at 5:03 mark
He says Jay wasn’t even there, only Dame and they offered him $150k BUDGET. No advance, no budget control, no P.O., nothing. I am not saying Jaz needed the biggest deal but they were clearly trying to fukk him on this because he was a valuable producer, writer, and artist at the time. Mic Geronimo and Royal Flush had OPEN BUDGETS of twice that much and they were two artists on a small Indy that was parented by a company that had NO RAP prior to!


Maybe Jay was not there

But Jaz also said Jay should have left the roc because he didnt get the deal he thought he should have


When Jay dint leave Jaz thought he was being disloyal
 

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Maybe Jay was not there

But Jaz also said Jay should have left the roc because he didnt get the deal he thought he should have


When Jay dint leave Jaz thought he was being disloyal

Post source if you can. But basically I am saying they offered my mans a deal just so no one could say they didn’t. Once it’s out there then if he don’t sign people gonna blame it on him and say he was an ingrate or he full of himself without knowing the reasons why he turned it down.
 

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Post source if you can. But basically I am saying they offered my mans a deal just so no one could say they didn’t. Once it’s out there then if he don’t sign people gonna blame it on him and say he was an ingrate or he full of himself without knowing the reasons why he turned it down.
Can’t find that all I remember that was the talk

Also the talk about the cult Jaz was in just before this

Jay went to go get him and put him on the originainators 99


Then Jaz made that album kingz Kounty after that was the split with Jay and Jaz

I remember sauce saying it on that interview with combat jack and those interviews are hard to find
 
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