Bayer CEO: "We did not make this medicine for Indians…we made it for Westerners who can afford it"

[Depreciating Asset]

Some people just want to burn in the fires of hell breh

Not sure if this is your standard go to line but I'm a fan of your work. I may have to steal this every now and then. I think 14 out 15 threads in TLR can be responded to with "Some people just want to burn in the fires of hell breh" and get 20 daps each time.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

stifles innovation in the market

You might disagree with profit seeking, but the profit motives sequesters the best scientists and obtains the best equipment.

Its a trade off.

How does it stifle innovation? Give some examples

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

SHUT UP fakkit CAC U LIVED OFF UNEMPLOYMENT FOR 2 YEARS AND U GOT SOCIALIZED MEDICINE IN CANADA fakkit.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

How does it stifle innovation? Give some examples

you can't make generic drugs if there isn't competition to do so and make money off the "same" drug. This is largely because of patent expiration dates as well.

The government being in charge wouldn't pursue that.

See, i'm not some anarcho-capitalist/libertarian, but we have to understand that in some ventures, you get the best results by letting the best minds work on things.

Government doesn't do that cause it neither pays enough, nor is willing to commit to risk taking like private industry. Government can't and doesn't subsidize actual DRUGS. Government is more for research and knowledge.

There are TONS of drugs that don't make it to market and even more who are just lab bench ideas. Government doesn't have the leeway or flexibility to deal with all those failures.

Private industry does.

ALSO...the government doesnt attract talent like that. They just don't. Some fields need it, some dont. Personally, I want the best people feeling like they're getting paid the best...so...yeah. Drugs aren't the same as banking or any other host of things.

Its not a perfect system, but to treat all of these issues with a broad brush isn't helping anyone.

People want free shyt but don't understand what goes into making it. This is high stakes shyt too.

 

[Kritic]

1. I don't understand why Indians need it when they have Turmeric( Curcumin) that is a already known cancer killer for thousands of years.

2. Bayer has been known through their history of creating some nasty and sick experiments since the days of their support of the nazis to now.

30 people died in 2001 of their drug.
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/01/business/01DRUG.html?ex=1047531517&ei=1&en=2c00117efe2c31f7

Thousands of Hemophiliacs died from tainted Bayer products
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/05/22/business/22BLOO.html

Birth Control Pill continues to create health problems for women
http://www.onlinelawyersource.com/news/bayer-yaz-controversy-continues-2/

Bayer killing Bees
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/bayer-funding-of-beekeepers-association-draws-controversy/

Bayer's explosions at their factories killing workers....
http://www.icis.com/resources/news/...troversial-us-methyl-isocyanate-unit-in-2012/

Bayer had students drink pesticides
http://www.cbgnetwork.org/389.html

Keep believing in BigPharma and Big Corporation, brehs.

it's a lawse whether paying or getting any thing for free from zionists.

 

[DEAD7]

I have been watching this thread, and the general theme is 'fukk the profit motive' some greedy fukk develops a new life saving drug in order to make lots of money and you guys are outraged

If I had cancer and this saved my life this niqqa can hate who ever and be as rich as he wants

Not one person in this thread gives a fukk how much it cost him to develop this drug, and I doubt any of you think he should be able to recoup that cost and make something. Its insane.
I'm just glad we dont have to rely on the goodness of man to develop life saving drugs (as many here seem to want), cause we would be dying to the flu out here.

If his drug saves one life, it was worth the cost to me but then again I value life a bit higher than most.

 

[DEAD7]

@DEAD7 what do the free-marketeers say sounds like the Indians de-regulated the market by themselves

They did. Not so bad right?

 

[tru_m.a.c]

You guys simply don't understand the difference between developing a drug and manufacturing a drug.

The essential problem I have with your arguments, is that you make it sound like the Indian pharma company was in it for the love of the people. No, they just had a lower operating cost. They aint robin hood

just watch the video, this is pharma 101….you guys are championing nothing….both companies represent the same for profit motive

 

[Kritic]

Not one person in this thread gives a fukk how much it cost him to develop this drug

i can bet it COST HIM nothing and he's the first person to find ways for his company to evade taxes. and medicines have killed thousands of ppl and they won't pay for them.
fuq that corpse lookin fo mo. let my indian niccas eat

 

[MostReal]

All I can say is the Health Care industry is mad grimey
You wouldn't look at Doctors or the Pharmaceutical industry the same if you knew what I knew about them

there is a reason why these dudes fought the Obama Care law tooth and nail. They don't want anyone checking behind what they are doing.

 

[Blackking]

I have been watching this thread, and the general theme is 'fukk the profit motive' some greedy fukk develops a new life saving drug in order to make lots of money and you guys are outraged

If I had cancer and this saved my life this niqqa can hate who ever and be as rich as he wants

Not one person in this thread gives a fukk how much it cost him to develop this drug, and I doubt any of you think he should be able to recoup that cost and make something. Its insane.
I'm just glad we dont have to rely on the goodness of man to develop life saving drugs (as many here seem to want), cause we would be dying to the flu out here.
If his drug saves one life, it was worth the cost to me but then again I value life a bit higher than most.

the profit isn't what sparked the medical innovation... the business people just use the scientist to make the profit. The gov could fund the r n d. overall the cost would be lower because you wouldn't have to pay millions to excs.

And I laid out in my previous post the case for Bayer and how much it cost. read it.

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

I have been watching this thread, and the general theme is 'fukk the profit motive' some greedy fukk develops a new life saving drug in order to make lots of money and you guys are outraged

If I had cancer and this saved my life this niqqa can hate who ever and be as rich as he wants

Not one person in this thread gives a fukk how much it cost him to develop this drug, and I doubt any of you think he should be able to recoup that cost and make something. Its insane.
I'm just glad we dont have to rely on the goodness of man to develop life saving drugs (as many here seem to want), cause we would be dying to the flu out here.
If his drug saves one life, it was worth the cost to me but then again I value life a bit higher than most.

 

[Swaggatron]

This is an example of why I am always infuriated when I think about CoIntelPro

 

[DEAD7]

i can bet it COST HIM nothing and he's the first person to find ways for his company to evade taxes. and medicines have killed thousands of ppl and they won't pay for them.
fuq that corpse lookin fo mo. let my indian niccas eat

 

[the cac mamba]

i gotta say this is a polarizing issue

on the one hand, fukk big pharma as much good as they do, the lobbying and the other scummy shyt is just pushin for weed to be illegal so they can keep pumpin percosets

on the other hand, these indian bootleggers are too, yea its cheap to make but R&D costs have to be recouped