Backstage Issues with Ryback vs. CM Punk at Hell in a Cell

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Have Ryback lose due to interference...simple as that


can ryback even give the E a 10 minute match? Can he cut a promo? Will he be able to bring in ratings?

The E needs new stars but in this situation punk's 300+ reign and red hot heel reactions are far more important than "feed me more"Chants.

It's funny how wwe subjectively listens to fans .you chanting woo woo woo get to the bushes . They should know punk needs to go over have miz or someone attack ryback
 
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Well, they can't do a low blow DQ obviously with this being a hell in a cell so they will have to be a little more "creative"..

They should have added a third man. Yeah, it'd be predictable to have Punk go over the third man but it would continue to build Punk/Ryback while protecting them both.

Only other possibility is Lesnar showing up and causing a No Contest by murdering referees and agents inside/around the ring... Chaos ensues with he and Ryback.. Punk escapes through the crowd with the belt and wallops a douchebag for good measure..

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There's actually a way for this match to end somewhat decisively without having either guy really lose momentum...AND you wouldn't need to have Ryback get attacked before the match (because then you wouldn't be giving the PPV crowd what they paid for)

Remember this?


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Foley says that Punk's lengthy reign doesn't matter if he doesn't have any memorable "moments"...thus, why he HAD to take on Cena at Hell In A Cell.

Now he has to take on Ryback who shouldn't lose this soon in his build-up. However, we can't put the strap on him right now and you can't lose a Hell In A Cell match by DQ.

Here's my scenario. I call it "The HALLOWEEN ENDING." :smugfavre:

Punk smugly gets some offense in on Ryback and taunts the crowd throughout the match for doubting "The Best In the World". At some point, he realizes that he can't put Ryback away because after smacking him with chairs, kendo sticks, knees, and the GTS, Ryback kicks out. At that point, Punk gets shook and Ryback begins to fukking BRUTALIZE him with the cage. Punk misses with his kick and gets his head knocked off with that clothesline. Shellshock...one, two, thr-KICKOUT.

Respect. :youngsabo:

Heyman lets Punk out the cage and Punk tries to leave, Ryback won't have it and so they fight on the outside. They get to the announce tables and Punk hits one more GTS that lays Ryback on the announce tables. Crowd's like :dwillhuh:

Heyman tries to get Punk to leave the match since he can't pin him on the outside. Punk refuses and the camera catches him saying "I need to have my moment, Paul." :leon:

With Ryback on the tables, Punk climbs the cell. Realistically, the shyt is huge so I can't really expect him to climb the whole thing...but maybe he hangs off the side. If we wanted some true #fukkery , he'd go to the top. When he gets there, he points up, yells "BEST IN THE WORLD", and...

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...onto Ryback...through the fukking announce tables. J.R. goes nuts, the crowd goes nuts. Both men are down...referee throws up the "X"....stretchers come out...bell rings and the match is called a "No Contest".

Both guys are on stretchers and Punk calls for his title from Paul because it's all that matters to him...hand barely hanging on to his belt...he screams "Best In the World" from the stretcher

...he gets wheeled to the back...

EMT's and medical staff attend to Ryback and try to get him on the stretcher...they get to the top of the ramp and at the last second, Ryback sits up in the stretcher like the fukking Undertaker, Michael Myers, or Jason...

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...and that's how it ends. Great match...both guys "go over". Everyone leaves happy.

Bad idea because it does two of the three things that absolutely do not need to be done regarding this match:

1). Punk kicks out of the Shellshock, thus eroding Ryback's monster cred ever so slightly but very significantly. Who kicked out of Goldberg's Jackhammer? When you're dealing with a monster face or heel, you need to be assured beyond anything that the finish is absolute death; there's absolutely NO reason why Punk needs to be kicking out of that. Ryback's only been around for 6 months and hasn't even gotten to actually use it against anybody, and Punk doesn't need the rub. It's just a pointless waste.

As a matter of fact, the WWE needs to treat the Lariat/Shellshock combo the way New Japan's been treating Kazuchika Okada's Rainmaker: If he hits it, he wins, no questions asked. If he's not winning, he doesn't hit it. Period. Protect the damn finisher.

2). Gives the fans two straight fukk finishes to end a pay-per-view. And in a Hell in a Cell nonetheless. I MIGHT be more lenient on this had the finish at NoC not happened, but because it did, a finish is absolutely needed here. There's no good reason why you need to fukk the fans yet again, and especially when you could just use that to beat Ryback without killing his credibility (that presents its own problems, but this isn't about that).
 

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Just have Ryback fukking win. It's not like the company has been putting on a stellar product with Punk as champ anyways :yeshrug:
 

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Bad idea because it does two of the three things that absolutely do not need to be done regarding this match:

1). Punk kicks out of the Shellshock, thus eroding Ryback's monster cred ever so slightly but very significantly. Who kicked out of Goldberg's Jackhammer? When you're dealing with a monster face or heel, you need to be assured beyond anything that the finish is absolute death; there's absolutely NO reason why Punk needs to be kicking out of that. Ryback's only been around for 6 months and hasn't even gotten to actually use it against anybody, and Punk doesn't need the rub. It's just a pointless waste.

As a matter of fact, the WWE needs to treat the Lariat/Shellshock combo the way New Japan's been treating Kazuchika Okada's Rainmaker: If he hits it, he wins, no questions asked. If he's not winning, he doesn't hit it. Period. Protect the damn finisher.

2). Gives the fans two straight fukk finishes to end a pay-per-view. And in a Hell in a Cell nonetheless. I MIGHT be more lenient on this had the finish at NoC not happened, but because it did, a finish is absolutely needed here. There's no good reason why you need to fukk the fans yet again, and especially when you could just use that to beat Ryback without killing his credibility (that presents its own problems, but this isn't about that).

Shelton Benjamin got jobbed out alot but he MADE DAMN SURE that he never hit that Paydirt finisher without it getting the win:laugh: You can look it up. No one ever kicked out of it in one of his matches.


Punk's reign has been a complete failure, it's time for them to admit it and move on.

According to the Heyman interview on here, "he's the best". That whatever you throw him, he's made it very good. "Vince. Foley. Cena. All of that stuff Punk has been better than everyone." Of course he negates the fact that Bryan is the one who got sent into a comedy tag team and gets INSANE reactions every week in a heel role. But that goes against the way of things.

If only the WWE had any balls and would make it Rock vs Bryan at WM 29 with Bryan going over:yes:
 

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Shelton Benjamin got jobbed out alot but he MADE DAMN SURE that he never hit that Paydirt finisher without it getting the win:laugh: You can look it up. No one ever kicked out of it in one of his matches.
And here we go....:snoop:
 

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Hey, it had to be said. Punk isn't even allowed to put away Cena with two GTS hits anymore?:laugh: Cena be kicking out like its the Undertaker at WM:laugh:
 

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Why dont they just have Brock come out and destroy Ryback to a bloody pulp (yes blood) and he and punk just completely destroy him and Punk wins via interference fukkery

Punk gains the heel heat by officially aligning with Brock and Heyman and Ryback saves face since it took 2 men with weapons and a bloody face to beat him



that is really the only actual logical finish.
the brock run in,..to cost ryback the title at hiac.
which leads to brock fighting and taking the strap off of sheamus.
in he first of two possible money matches.
to complete the circle of the new championship ready deadly alliance.

with the hw title money match in brock versus ryback at mania.
after the chase/brock holds the whc title hostage via admin/legality angle.

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Not to mention the fact that a big part of the allure for a character like Ryback is the chase. Have him run roughshot and eventually come to the champion when there's nothing left. This is too rushed and a win here is extremely premature. The backlash would be worst than when Orton forsake his role as the chaser and won the title.
 

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They rushed the shyt out of this. I don't watch full RAWs and some weeks I don't watch at all..but Ryback went from bullying JTG a month or two ago to feuding for the WWE title? :dwillhuh:

Brock is the easiest route to go but not sure how they could spin it with him having limited dates. Vince better pay that man. :jawalrus:
 
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