Azealia Banks out here coming at EVERYBODY'S giving no fukks on Eric Garner, Iggy, and white gay men

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Nikka I already said, just because cacs/others made or enjoyed the music, that it doesn't stop it from being of black origin:what:


who is arguing black origins? like you're sounding stupid, no one is talking origins. Take an anthropology class and brush up on your definitions.
 

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Good lord.:camby:


Where did your favorite four-letter-word "Jazz" come from? Not where you think!

When it comes to the origin of the word “jazz,” it seems that each person simply believes what she or he wants to. Some people would like the word to come from Africa, so they firmly believe the stories that support that. Others want it to be an African American word, so they look for that. But professional linguists have been on the case for decades, and the real story is a lot less black and white.

The BOTTOM LINES in this discussion are:

1. Nobody knows for sure the etymology of the word “jazz”!! (Even the professionals have not found an earlier word or words, from English or any other language, that “morphed” into the word “jazz.”) However it might (please remember—“might,” not definitely) come from a slang word, “jasm” (more on that later).

2. The word does not appear to have been invented by African Americans and is not from New Orleans. It seems to have originated among white people (European Americans), and the earliest printed uses of it are in California baseball writing, where it means “lively, energetic.” (Note: The word still has this meaning, as in “Let’s jazz this up”!) The earliest one yet found was in 1912, as you can see below. This text was discovered by researcher George A. Thompson, and sent courtesy of etymologist Professor Gerald Cohen.

3. Whites started to call the new music “jazz” in Chicago (and possibly California) in 1915. Because it was a new word, and it was slang, spellings varied at first (jazz, jas, jaz, jass, jasz), but since 1918 it has been “jazz.”

4. White people meant the word “jazz” as a compliment (meaning that the music was lively and exciting), not an insult!

http://www.wbgo.org/blog/origins-word-jazz


by 1912, American English, first attested in baseball slang; as a type of music, attested from 1913. Probably ultimately from Creole patois jass "strenuous activity," especially "sexual intercourse" but also used of Congo dances, from jasm (1860) "energy, drive," of African origin (compare Mandingo jasi, Temne yas), also the source of slang jism.
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=jazz

e latest research on the word "jazz" points to early use of the term in baseball. According to University of Missouri-Rolla Professor Gerald Cohen' author of a three-volume "Dictionary of 1913 Baseball and Other Lingo," jazz was used in baseball meaning "vim," "vigor" and "fighting spirit" before it acquired its musical meaning. It was introduced by San Francisco Bulletin sports writer 'Scoop' Gleeson as a term to describe players on the San Francisco Seals team.
http://jass.com/word.html



I'm being partial, there has been no definitive proof that Jazz derived from sex, which is exactly what I said above. To say it as fact is misleading and basically cannot and has not been proven.
 

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jazz came from ragtime and was said to be more energetic, you can even break down the words origins. Jazz was early 19th century, so must not have been someone too recently.

Let me guess you took this music history class at a HBCU? Not sure why you're touting the rest of that, as if that proves Jazz came from sex. Still you canot prove ithat



Actually, Jazz (jasm) comes frm Jism...
JIZ means semen now and jism was semen bakk when.
Jazz did mean something energetic and lively but also was a connatation for fukking.
 
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jazz came from ragtime and was said to be more energetic, you can even break down the words origins. Jazz was early 19th century, so must not have been someone too recently.

Let me guess you took this music history class at a HBCU? Not sure why you're touting the rest of that, as if that proves Jazz came from sex. Still you canot prove ithat

Now you fakkit I took at Full Sail University where I got my degree in audio engineer and bachelors in Entertainment business and the instructor was white for our music history class

and you're wrong on all accounts

black people invented rag time too, its too different styles of music

you remind me of this white boy who was in the class and in denial

you have no idea what you're talking about get your dumb ass out here

it's known fact Jazz is a slang term from sex, any old black person will tell you this
 

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Actually, Jazz (jasm) comes frm Jism...
JIZ means semen now and jism was semen bakk when.
Jazz did mean something energetic and lively but also was a connatation for fukking.


Dude, I said that already - why are you literally repeating what i already said.

Also, the words Jazz stemming from sex has never been proven SMH; it's also thought to stem from being lively, energetic, etc etc. Which would make more sense.

you're like a hockey player without a stick , just sliding around looking to fight. smh
 

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What is this American culture you type of? bc North America was stolen from the Natives who lived here first.
What is true american culture??????
is it British, French, Portugese and Spaniard culture morphed into the fukkery we call AMERICA????






1. This country was founded and built on stolen land by evil europeans.
the original europeans who came here tried to leave that evil they were running from,
but soon that evil they escaped from showed up in North America and took over.

2. AMERICA was named by a map maker frm germany. He named it AMERICA in 1507.
you're using a word frm a german map maker to put a tag on a style you're trying to debate about. wtf.

3. Assimilate - resemble.
Wtf does "american" food resemble????? It doesnt fukking resemble the food that came frm the people who conquered it and stole it.
What southern food has a british, portugese, and spaniard flair to it?? even true french cuisine does not resemble southern cooking.

TRUE american cuisine resembles native american cooking using the resources they had grown and roaming on North American land..
The "american" cuisine you're referring to is shyt they put in cook books in the 50's and labeled "AMERICAN"
Recipes taken frm over the years that slaves and immigrants cooked for their rich masters using the ingredients available by importation into America, and grown in America.

4. American culture?? Explain that to me please.
What is this American culture you're speaking of?? When did country music merge into hip hop?
Only dumb ass to truly do that and succeed was Kid Rokk.

how old are you???



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it's known fact Jazz is a slang term from sex, any old black person will tell you this


oh okay, good ot know that only old black people were around in the 19th century and only they would be able to tell us about the secretive origins of Jazz - this is good to know. Let me delete all the proof on the internet that argues otherwise, by eptymologists with actual written documentations. Because good ole Master Teacher was told by some old guy and a white jazz teacher the origns of jazz. Let it be fact!
 

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Dude, I said that already - why are you literally repeating what i already said.



you're like a hockey player without a stick , just sliding around looking to fight. smh


I'm a bytch.

And you said the word JAZZ did not come frm a connotation for fukking.
As if the word literally means something to do with what instruments being played/music style and not a word being used to be hand in hand with a slang word which it derived from smh
 

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I'm a bytch.

And you said the word JAZZ did not come frm a connotation for fukking.
As if the word literally means something to do with what instruments being played/music style and not a word being used to be hand in hand with a slang word which it derived from smh


not sure what your last sentence is trying to say.

and I did not say that, i said that there are other origins, which i quoted what i said. but again you ignored and made up your own argument. Have fun the rest of the night trying to tempt me to argue with you, whilst i ignore you .
 
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I gave you dap, someone who is this ignorant and refuses to even acknowledge that his version of something unproven could be wrong deserves kudos.

I went to school for this you haven't, shyt em cost me 40,000

I've been at George Clinton's United Sound studio and did sessions with he drummer for George Clinton

I've spoken to the Funk Brothers

YOU DON'T KNOW shyt


even people in the comments section of that dumb ass site you posted stated the truth, its a known fact
 
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