Ayo niccas wasn't exaggerating about this Brooklyn Gentrification

[Pier7]

Reverse White Flight... now all the cacs are leaving the suburbs and trying to move back into the city.

Bingo. And now those blacks are getting kicked out into the surrounding cities and suburbs of those metropolises
(Aka the lame places where nikkas dont wanna live)

In New York its places like Yonkers, Mt.Vernon, New Rochelle,Upstate(Albany,Troy,Kingston etc)

In La its places like Inland Empire,Gardena, Carson,Paramount

In TO. I would imagine places like Missaugua, Ottawa,The outskirts of the GTA etc.

 

[Liquid]

But do they have jobs?

They MAKE jobs. Most small shops out there is owned by a minority, it's often referred to as "Little Mexico" out here.

Restaurants, Supermarkets, Cell Phone Shops, and selling other goods. It starts small, but being in a position to actually own the property you live in and then gathering the resources from your regular job to invest in your local community or is key.

I'll give you an example, there was a local taco truck out here that operated for a few years...they collectively got their money together and rented a location in Downtown Lexington called "El Habanero Loko" which is right in front of the main public library in town, next to the local bus transit center, next to Rupp Arena where UK Basketball plays, tons of construction going on and a huge downtown project called "Centrepointe" underway. It was a very risky move on their part, but they might just make it. I would assume that if things go well they will likely move to another location that they BUY and not rent. I would assume that they don't own their location now, but I am not 100% sure on that.

On the flipside, I can't even imagine a scenario in where this can be possible in NYC. It will almost be like selling food out of a truck in the South Bronx and build enough wealth in a few years to open up a shop across the 42nd street train station in Manhattan or Downtown Brooklyn. Is it an exaggeration on my part? Yeah sure, but the point is still there. They were able to take the risk and are now right at the center of a very fast growing city with crazy expansion going on.

"Gentrification" in that area will be tougher because many own their property...good luck trying to convince a large number of people to sell their homes in a relatively short amount of time if you decide you want to change the neighborhood for profit.

 

[Atlrocafella]

I'm not from NY but I've been going there every summer all my life, so I remember Brooklyn and Manhattan vividly. From the 90's to now. It sucks that it's been gentrified so much and displacing a lot of minorities, but at the same its much more enjoyable and safe

Black people should have been owning instead of renting for years, that way you wouldn't get kicked out. My aunt owns her home in Brooklyn, so she won't be getting pushed out of no where unless they come at her with those bag$$$

 

[filial_piety]

Where are all of these affluent communities where blacks that come from means are displacing whites?

Please...show them to me. They actually exist? Cause last time I checked blacks were getting gentrified out of many communities...and the black communities that were thriving are now defaulting in property values as the residents were not as affluent as thought....but basically high paid employees.

Whites are the majority in america...of course they are going to be the number one gentrifiers. Latinos do not have that clout to enact gentrification on the scale they have been at yet

I think what he is saying that you can be black by definition and be apart of the gentrifying class. It isn't necessarily defined by race (that's a political argument--not necessarily one of economics), but more so by someone's income level, in addition to their location of origin--by definition, that can be anyone, it isn't simply defined by large swaths of any particular race.

I recently bought a Condo a year ago in an 'up and coming' NYC neighborhood, I'm black and NOT originally from NYC. I bought in the area because of it's convenience and it's potential. An Asian lady, in her late 20s recently did the same thing...all politics aside, I would consider both of us "gentrifiers" in that sense.

 

[onelastdeath]

This is a matter of fact but practically speaking it's naiive. Gentrification clearly has racial undertones and there is no notable example of black people or any other race gentrifying a white neighborhood.

I can't believe that son is arguing that.

 

[IllustratorMike]

The north part always was jew territory everyone knows that but back then once you get below bedford or metropolian ave it was always status , now they roaming Marcy & Division ave like it's disney land

 

[smokeurobinson]

They MAKE jobs. Most small shops out there is owned by a minority, it's often referred to as "Little Mexico" out here.

Restaurants, Supermarkets, Cell Phone Shops, and selling other goods. It starts small, but being in a position to actually own the property you live in and then gathering the resources from your regular job to invest in your local community or is key.

I'll give you an example, there was a local taco truck out here that operated for a few years...they collectively got their money together and bought a location in Downtown Lexington called "El Habanero Loko" which is right in front of the main public library in town, next to the local bus transit center, next to Rupp Arena where UK Basketball plays, tons of construction going on and a huge downtown project called "Centrepointe" underway. It was a very risky move on their part, but they might just make it. I would assume that if things go well they will likely move to another location that they BUY and not rent. I would assume that they don't own their location now, but I am not 100% sure on that.

On the flipside, I can't even imagine a scenario in where this can be possible in NYC. It will almost be like selling food out of a truck in the South Bronx and build enough wealth in a few years to open up a shop across the 42nd street train station in Manhattan or Downtown Brooklyn. Is it an exaggeration on my part? Yeah sure, but the point is still there. They were able to take the risk and are now right at the center of a very fast growing city with crazy expansion going on.

"Gentrification" in that area will be tougher because many own their property...good luck trying to convince a large number of people to sell their homes in a relatively short amount of time if you decide you want to change the neighborhood for profit.

Interesting . I'm gonna look into this.

 

[Liquid]

Bingo. And now those blacks are getting kicked out into the surrounding cities and suburbs of those metropolises
(Aka the lame places where nikkas dont wanna live)

In New York its places like Yonkers, Mt.Vernon, New Rochelle,Upstate; Albany,Kingston etc)

In La its places like Inland Empire,Gardena, Carson, The outskirts of the GTA etc.

In TO. I would imagine places like Missaugua, Ottawa etc.

If you don't own the property, the neighborhood was never yours to begin with.

This is a matter of fact but practically speaking it's naiive. Gentrification clearly has racial undertones and there is no notable example of black people or any other race gentrifying a white neighborhood.

We don't have many examples that even makes this an option, so what is the point of searching for examples?

 

[filial_piety]

You clearly don't understand what gentrifcation is.... or you think it only consists of what white people do.

You do realize that when black professionals with their nice college degrees and middle class incomes...move into lower income black neighborhoods ....they become gentrifiers

how do you think black lower income neighborhoods, become black middle class neighborhoods...and those middle class neighborhood become black upper class ones?

You are absolutely correct.

 

[Broke Wave]

I can't believe that son is arguing that.

Its nonsense really. I'm from Toronto which after NYC is probably the second ground zero for gentrification.
In a place like Queen West/Parkdale, many of the gentrifiers are actually black. There is a huge influx of black hipsters in the area and a whole new scene evolving in that area. I think it's obvious however that they are not condo developers or bar owners and therefore their mere existence does not change the fact that it is largely white establishment driven. The neighborhood is being made acceptable for a monies white majority with businesses largely frequented by whites so whether or not black people are there is inconcequential.

 

[Liquid]

Interesting . I'm gonna look into this.

Meant to say rented downtown.

I doubt they were in a position to own yet, but its clear that they have a vision. Many have that vision in NYC as well, but they are sadly in an endless cycle of trying to accumulate wealth faster than the inflation...it almost never works out.

 

[Donald J Trump]

For you smart dumb nikkas, this is how White people have built wealth for a long time. You nikkas never owned shyt, what the fukk you expect?

 

[DrX]

Yup...when I was in park slope, and fort green I didn't see no blacks hardly .

Chinatown is becoming gentrified now too. It goes to show that even when u practice group economics , cacs can still take over ur neighborhood

 

[DrX]

nikkas fukked this up. During the crack era, they should've copped everything they could. But then again Jews and cacs ain't having that

 

[MegaTronBomb!]

Bingo. And now those blacks are getting kicked out into the surrounding cities and suburbs of those metropolises
(Aka the lame places where nikkas dont wanna live)

In New York its places like Yonkers, Mt.Vernon, New Rochelle,Upstate(Albany,Troy,Kingston etc)

In La its places like Inland Empire,Gardena, Carson,Paramount

In TO. I would imagine places like Missaugua, Ottawa,The outskirts of the GTA etc.

Blacks have ALWAYS lived in The South Bay..Paramount is right next to Compton.. and Blacks started moving to the IE in the 80's cause it was wide open, low cost housing and good schools...not cause they got kicked out or priced out by incoming whites


this is possibly the worst argument you could ever make