Ayo niccas wasn't exaggerating about this Brooklyn Gentrification

[*L*E*G*A*C*Y*]

Because the statement u made was ignorant.



But if you do that then u lump 'poor' and 'Black People' together as one.



When it was affordable there's crime
When its expensive there's less crime.

If i have land that is depreciating in value, as a business man I'm gonna do something to make it valuable ,regardless to how it looks to others.
Are you saying i'd be wrong for thinking like that?.

I'm not acting like all black people are poor nor am I acting like all white people are rich. Not true. But to say that the black population hasn't decreased and the white population of the city hasn't increased would be disingenuous.

Of course there have been whites that have been priced out...but of course there are more whites coming in period.

All the information is out there to let you know that blacks as a collective in America do not control the class narrative.

 

[Mike Ock]

Harlem next

Harlem has beeeeen gentrified.

Also a lot of the white folks do the roommate thing which makes it more affordable per person. In reality, they're def all not rich.

 

[onelastdeath]

People never talk about the real issue. It's midwest transplants that come here with trust funds that can afford whatever they need . they come here at 22 with bank and can afford to live wherever they want, while normal college grads don't even have money to eat. So even if you are black, educated, and on your way to money, you can't compete with Midwest grads who already have it And don't have to suffer financially from lack of experience in the workplace.
That's the issue.

 

[Liquid]

Eh....what about Chinatown and communities like flushing and little neck?

Kind of makes your point moot. They actively discriminate against people that aren't Chinese living there...I know. I tried getting a place there for cheap and they refused to rent to me.

Chinatown in Manhattan is a result of a 170+ year old concentrated effort by Asian immigrants to flee their original country or escape from the racist activity out west in this country. They had the time advantage in where the wealth gap wasn't as wide with the established vs the ones who are trying to come up in NYC, it's almost impossible for minorities to be in the position to "Gentrify" an area in that part of the country now...unless you were in a position to "own". One of the areas that I have a tough time seeing get "Gentrified" is Merrick NY...most OWN their homes and businesses out there.

Is Gentrification out in Chinatown inevitable? No doubt about it, but they built a culture in that area much stronger than we ever did in Harlem/Washington Heights and there are several reasons for that. 1 - We simply didn't have enough time to set up that kind of community and these things take DECADES/CENTURIES to build. 2 - You have landowners who are going to try to capitalize every chance they get to the highest bidder, which is hard to argue against that. 3 - Washington Heights/The Bronx and other little spots have always been a quick way for immigrants to get established in this country, but a shift always occurs. The sad thing is that it appears that Washington Heights will never be that place anymore, it will just become an established neighborhood with not much change in the near future after all the Dominicans and Puerto Ricans are out. 4 - The people back home aren't good at collectively getting together to establish a long-term plan. I see it much more out in this part of the country, several hotspots out I've researched in Nevada and others.

The opportunities are out there, but to think that it is feasible to get it done in NYC in a reasonable amount of time is straight up delusional. You've got a huge country with many places that actually have MANY weather advantages over NYC, but most refuse to take another route...they are buying into the notion that if you work hard enough...you will be able to own whatever you want even in a place like NYC. Is it possible that it can happen? Sure, ANYTHING is POSSIBLE, but highly unlikely.

 

[smokeurobinson]

@smokeurobinson it is literally impossible to ignore the racial undercurrent behind gentrification. Literally. White people in America control all the businesses, the economy, the money, etc. Might as well call it racial displacement or whitewashing. These neighborhoods seem to be becoming more diverse but they are actually becoming less diverse and more white and the changes in the neighborhood reflect it...more cops, more corporate retailers that would be easily found in flyoverland usa, etc.

No dout there is a racial undercurrent but what did we do as a collective to stop it?


In the 90's Bloods started popping up in NYC.
How did that help the situation ?

 

[Scientific Playa]

yo, how is rockaway pkwy looking these days over by the brookdale hospital area?

 

[onelastdeath]

They ain't gentrify Brownsville tho....

By 2025 NY is going to be worst. Watch.

 

[Mr.Big Meat McGee]

Shut the fukk up and know what your talking about. Back then it wasnt called Gentrification. It was called WHITE FLIGHT, whites were moving on their own accord. Out of fear, racial and economical, when blacks moved in the property value "magically" would go down, and lack of basic amenities (education,safety,etc) would go up. Cacs aint wanna be around nikkas so they hightailed they ass to the burbs.

What is going on nowadays is Minorities, politically and economically getting bamboozled and priced out of their home's

Reverse White Flight... now all the cacs are leaving the suburbs and trying to move back into the city.

 

[Liquid]

Where are all of these affluent communities where blacks that come from means are displacing whites?

Please...show them to me. They actually exist? Cause last time I checked blacks were getting gentrified out of many communities...and the black communities that were thriving are now defaulting in property values as the residents were not as affluent as thought....but basically high paid employees.

Whites are the majority in america...of course they are going to be the number one gentrifiers. Latinos do not have that clout to enact gentrification on the scale they have been at yet

40504 in Lexington, KY is one that comes to mind. I lived in that zip code for years. I don't know the history of Merrick, NY, but I would assume that there has to be a nice back story as to how that neighborhood developed.

There has to be several others in this country, the problem is that you are looking at the north-east bubble. I've already explained why its next to impossible to really have a chance to own in our lifetimes.

 

[smokeurobinson]

40504 in Lexington, KY is one that comes to mind. I lived in that zip code for years.

But do they have jobs?

I'm not acting like all black people are poor nor am I acting like all white people are rich. Not true. But to say that the black population hasn't decreased and the white population of the city hasn't increased would be disingenuous.

Of course there have been whites that have been priced out...but of course there are more whites coming in period.

All the information is out there to let you know that blacks as a collective in America do not control the class narrative.

No doubt.
So whats the solution?

 

[filial_piety]

Breh, Williamsburg has been hipster ground zero for all of the 2000's.

Did you recently get out of jail?

I was thinking the same thing....Williamsburg was definitely not a bad area at any point in the early 2000s

I use to live in Fort Green around then in my early 20s and I use to hit bars and lounges up there all the time around Kent Ave. I was a full grown adult then and I can remember being there from 1999-2006 and it had high end boutique stores, chic restaurants and mad white folks on the L train getting off there.

My understanding is that it was bad in the 70s, 80s, and maybe the early 90s. Definitely NOT in the 2000s at all though.

 

[MegaTronBomb!]

Shut the fukk up and know what your talking about. Back then it wasnt called Gentrification. It was called WHITE FLIGHT, whites were moving on their own accord. Out of fear, racial and economical, when blacks moved in the property value "magically" would go down, and lack of basic amenities (education,safety,etc) would go up. Cacs aint wanna be around nikkas so they hightailed they ass to the burbs.

What is going on nowadays is Minorities, politically and economically getting bamboozled and priced out of their home's

You clearly don't understand what gentrifcation is.... or you think it only consists of what white people do.

You do realize that when black professionals with their nice college degrees and middle class incomes...move into lower income black neighborhoods ....they become gentrifiers

how do you think black lower income neighborhoods, become black middle class neighborhoods...and those middle class neighborhood become black upper class ones?

 

[360dagod]

Harlem next

Harlem been gentrified for YEARS

 

[DMGAINGREEN]

When I grew up there, Williamsburg was strictly Jewish. When was it ever black?

The north part always was jew territory everyone knows that but back then once you got below bedford or metropolian ave it was always status , now they roaming Marcy & Division ave like it's disney land

 

[Broke Wave]

You clearly don't understand what gentrifcation is.... or you think it only consists of what white people do.

You do realize that when black professionals with their nice college degrees and middle class incomes...move into lower income black neighborhoods ....they become gentrifiers

how do you think black lower income neighborhoods, become black middle class neighborhoods...and those middle class neighborhood become black upper class ones?

This is a matter of fact but practically speaking it's naiive. Gentrification clearly has racial undertones and there is no notable example of black people or any other race gentrifying a white neighborhood.